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JayneCobb: obtuse and in-appropriate.

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 22:17
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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:02 PM

When I first heard Joss say that Jayne was the Cordelia I also had thoughts that maybe he was more like Spike. I think most all of the comparisons you made of my Jayne characteristics can be applied to Chip-Spike. Once Spike wouldn't give up Dawn's identity over to Glory I think he actually became more trustworthy than Jayne. Jayne would give up River after a few seconds of torture.

Spike can be an idiot but not the clueless lunkhead Jayne can be. If Spike would see a coffin opened to reveal a body (something he's seen far more than Jayne, I'm sure) he might say "What'd you order a dead guy for?" But the delvery would be very different. Spike's would be sarcastic. Jayne meant it.

But yeah, Spike post-chip, pre-soul Spike functions in very similar ways to Jayne.

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:45 PM

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
"I was gonna get me a ear, too." Adam just sells that line so well!



Damn, I forgot about that one. I love his genuinely regretful expression when he says it.

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:52 PM

If Jayne seems like Spike, it's possible that wanting to have sex with both James Marsters and Adam Baldwin, you are subjecting them both to transference and it's that transfered character that makes them seem similar to you rather than the characters created by other authors. HTH

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:57 PM

Everyone always says "I'll be in my bunk"... But to me the bestest best Jayne/Adam moment is right before that when Adam looks like he's about to have an aneurism. Cracks me up every time!!!! Wonder what Adam was thinking about on set to get THAT expression...




A kind word turneth away wrath, but not as well as superior firepower

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
Yay! Mine didn't get taken!

"I was gonna get me a ear, too."




My favorite is prior to that in the same scene:

Mal: I've given Jayne the job of finding that out.

Jayne: (Draws very large knife) He was non-specific as to how.

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
If Jayne seems like Spike, it's possible that wanting to have sex with both James Marsters and Adam Baldwin, you are subjecting them both to transference and it's that transfered character that makes them seem similar to you rather than the characters created by other authors. HTH



Umm... nope. Don't think that applies in my case.

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R1Z
Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:54 PM

One of the things I regret most about the cancellation is that we didn't get to see where the Jayne/Book relationship went. In the pilot, Jayne menaces Book, who is trying to protect Dobson, who has just shot Kaylee. By War Games, they're workout partners who've clearly bonded through common knowledge and experience, though Book's is not disclosed.

One of my favorite somber bits is where Jayne shows us he clearly knows just who he is, when he says, "My kind of life don't last long, preacher, so I expect I'm invested in makin' good sport of it whilst I can. You gonna read over me when I get taken down, Shepherd?" Jayne clearly is well aware of his own mortality, and what life-span he can expect.

Kinda make me hope he will someday be "St. Jayne." "St. Jayne, it's got a ring to it." Do gunsmiths have a patron saint? And Book tells him that the fact he "once hit a guy in the neck at 500 yards with a bent scope" "will be taken into consideration."

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:33 PM

"What month is it?" Jayne, Train Job


"And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an over-abundance of schooling." Mal, Train Job

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:43 PM

Watched War Stories today. I always forget this line, so I always laugh at it.

Upon Wash and Zoe's return to the ship, Zoe hands Simon Mal's wrapped up ear:

Kaylee: What is it?
Simon: It's his ear.
Zoe: We're getting him back.
Jayne: What're we gonna do, clone him?

Legendary.

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Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:05 AM

i think that jaynes funnest line is " i'll be in my bunk." i laugh every time i hear it.

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