Is Battlestar Galacitica losing continuity already?

POSTED BY: Veteran
UPDATED: Saturday, September 3, 2005 00:32
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VETERAN

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:25 PM

I don't know about the rest of you but I thought the last ep was disappointing.

First off, how can a vessel in the middle of battle not be prepared for borders? The bots should have been swarmed by marines the second they opened the hatch. Apollo knew they got through, why'd the bridge officers seem so suprised.

Regarding continuity. Helio was able to take out Centurions with his standard issue rounds, all of a sudden you can only take out a Centurion with an explosive round to the head. Bah.

I especially didn't like the bit about a Cylon virus infecting the computers. I thought the Galactica didn't have any networks. In fact they made a point of it in the opening miniseries when Odama and Roslin were arguing about installing a LAN on the ship and again when they had to warm up the computers to calculate a jump, so how is a virus moving through their systems?

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:47 PM

I’d be really interested in hearing some explanations myself. I was thinking the whole time that things looked awfully deserted on Galactica. Why weren’t there huge battles being fought in the halls of Galactica? They get boarded and everyone goes to lunch? Did I miss something?

Someone should have watched last season before writing this one.

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PURPLEBELLY

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:55 PM

It felt to me like a disposable episode to introduce faces and characters to a new audience. Better things to come, I hope.

EARLYWASLATE

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:01 PM

They made a big deal about networking the computers in the first episode so they could calculate the jump coordinates faster.

Remember, they're running with pretty much a skeleton crew since it was about to be scraped, and it's a big ship, so it isn't suprising that many areas could be empty.

As far as the Centurions, I can only throw out that the bordeing party may bave been made up of ones that were beefed up to survive impact.

MUGTWAINE

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
I don't know about the rest of you but I thought the last ep was disappointing.

First off, how can a vessel in the middle of battle not be prepared for borders? The bots should have been swarmed by marines the second they opened the hatch. Apollo knew they got through, why'd the bridge officers seem so suprised.

Regarding continuity. Helio was able to take out Centurions with his standard issue rounds, all of a sudden you can only take out a Centurion with an explosive round to the head. Bah.

I especially didn't like the bit about a Cylon virus infecting the computers. I thought the Galactica didn't have any networks. In fact they made a point of it in the opening miniseries when Odama and Roslin were arguing about installing a LAN on the ship and again when they had to warm up the computers to calculate a jump, so how is a virus moving through their systems?

I also thought it was strange that they weren't a bit more prepared. Maybe they shouldn't have known that the strange spacecraft was a Cylon troop transport, but it seemed odd that they didn't immediately check out the area of the ship where it impacted.

Ron Moore, the executive producer of the show, actually has a podcast which he uses like a commentary for each episode. I haven't listened to them yet this season because he said there would be spoilers. But I did read somewhere that he said the boarding craft landed in the area of the ship that had been converted to a museum during the miniseries. He also said that that part of the ship is basically abandoned at this point, since it's pretty useless when set up like a museum and they haven't really had time to clean it up yet.

As for Helo taking down the Cylons, I thought he actually did have some explosive rounds. I remember in the miniseries he shot a guy climbing on his raptor and there was a minor explosion involved... I might be forgetting the part you're talking about specifically, though. I remember he set up some kind of bomb as a trap once, but it never seemed like he got away easy on Caprica. (Also, it seems possible that the Cylons were "giving him a break" on Caprica, as it seems like they were having fun experimenting with him and Boomer mk.II).

And as for the network... Did you happen to see the season premiere on July 15th, or did you just see the episode on the 22nd? In the premiere, Gaeta set up a temporary network so he could calculate an FTL jump extra fast. He had security firewalls to block the Cylon virus attempts, but they failed just as the jump calculations finished...

I'm not too sure about Gaeta. They've been doing a lot of subtle things with him that make me think he might be another Cylon...

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:27 PM

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Originally posted by Mugtwaine:
Ron Moore, the executive producer of the show, actually has a podcast which he uses like a commentary for each episode. I haven't listened to them yet this season because he said there would be spoilers. But I did read somewhere that he said the boarding craft landed in the area of the ship that had been converted to a museum during the miniseries. He also said that that part of the ship is basically abandoned at this point, since it's pretty useless when set up like a museum and they haven't really had time to clean it up yet.

That still doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. My understanding is that a battlestar is supposed to be analogous to a carrier. So where were the 5000+ crew? Are we to believe that a handful of individuals is the extent of their defensive capability in the heart of their military infrastructure?

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Originally posted by Mugtwaine:
And as for the network... Did you happen to see the season premiere on July 15th, or did you just see the episode on the 22nd? In the premiere, Gaeta set up a temporary network so he could calculate an FTL jump extra fast. He had security firewalls to block the Cylon virus attempts, but they failed just as the jump calculations finished...

This I did not know.

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KNIBBLET

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:51 PM

The computers were networked temporarily to allow the jump calculations -- something Adama always feared and with good judgement.

The explosive rounds are something we've seen before. I don't consider it a continuity error.

Apollo was going to report the crash of the ship that got through - I wouldn't have waited until landing though. It was important enough to be relayed immediately.

This ship was going to be decommissioned. She's a travelling museum. There are going to be HUGE sections empty of folks. Many folk would have already been tranferred and their billets not be refilled because of the decommissioning. If it weren't for the security problems, I'm sure that lots of civilians could fit into the empty spaces on the battlestar.

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VETERAN

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:56 PM

I wasn't aware that Gaeta set up a network. In the first episode of the Mini-Series Adama was dead set against any kind of network, eventhough the ship was going to be a museum. His stance was that the absence of a network was a tactically important aspect of the ship which should be maintained to honor those who served on her. It's hard to imagine he'd reverse himself on that point (the tactical part).

Didn't Adama order Gaeta to calculate some huge jump manaually?

I think your right, there is some implication that Gaeta is a Cylon. Maybe they're just teasing us, letting the audience feel a little of paranoia. How many of the 12 Models have we seen? If you count Centurions and Raiders we know of at least 6. Anyways there's 6-8 models outstanding.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by Knibblet:
This ship was going to be decommissioned. She's a travelling museum. There are going to be HUGE sections empty of folks. Many folk would have already been tranferred and their billets not be refilled because of the decommissioning. If it weren't for the security problems, I'm sure that lots of civilians could fit into the empty spaces on the battlestar./

I accept your other explanations, but I’m still not sure about this one. They clearly have a number of marines on board, I’m sure there must have been some reason why they weren’t involved in the fight that I must have missed. Didn’t they fully resupply in the miniseries? So why were they short on ammunitions?

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CAPTAINCDC

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Veteran:
I wasn't aware that Gaeta set up a network. In the first episode of the Mini-Series Adama was dead set against any kind of network, eventhough the ship was going to be a museum. His stance was that the absence of a network was a tactically important aspect of the ship which should be maintained to honor those who served on her. It's hard to imagine he'd reverse himself on that point (the tactical part).

Didn't Adama order Gaeta to calculate some huge jump manaually?

Adama did not reverse himself. He was laying unconcious in the sick bay. Gaeta came up with the network idea as a last resort to find the rest of the fleet. Networking was the only way to calculate the coordinates of where the fleet had jumped before the cylons blasted them to pieces. Gaeta said that without the network it would take like 15 minutes or something like that. The XO (Tigh) was opposed but relented when he saw they were out of options.

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