Is Battlestar Galacitica losing continuity already?
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UPDATED: Saturday, September 3, 2005 00:32
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I guess I must have been chopping broccoli, but there is one reoccurring point that some of you have made that I still don't understand.
The Galactica had a skeleton crew, which is understandable and makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is that if they did have a skeleton why do they still, if indeed they still do? Why haven’t they conscripted from the rest of the fleet to completely man their only military defense against complete extinction. If there ever was an argument for the draft, this would seem to be it
Yeah, maybe I was up getting a beer or something.
But your right Finn. I would think they'd have filled a lot of their roster with survivors from the fleet. We know they were recruiting pilots it only makes sense that they tried to fill the rest of their roster.
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Originally posted by Veteran:
Yeah, maybe I was up getting a beer or something.
But your right Finn. I would think they'd have filled a lot of their roster with survivors from the fleet. We know they were recruiting pilots it only makes sense that they tried to fill the rest of their roster.
If I remember correctly, the people they recruited were already in training to become pilots, yet hadn't completed the course.
The problem with drafts is that they take enormous resources to execute. First you have to devise a system to select recruits, and a bureaucracy to implement the system. Then you have to train the troops, which requires experienced soldiers to take time off their duties to teach, and even then you're dealing with a influx of very green soldiers. This is a large reason that the US military hasn't activated its own selective service; by the time the fully trained soldiers would be ready for service, it wouldn't do them any good. And that's not even getting into the political fallout.
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I don't believe that Apollo thought that Cylon ship was still in one peace and assumed that it was just debris that hit the Galactica. Also where the Cylon ship hit the Galactica was a Zero G environment, with no Oxygen (this is where the Vipers come into land). So the crew of the Galactica would not have been able to do anything about it until after the battle and the Galactica made the jump, by that time the Cylons had emerged.
With the Cylon Centurions I believe a possible explanation is that they where either a newer tougher model and/or they where designed as a kind of assault model, which are different to the occupation forces on Caprica. To me I would only call this a continuity error, if they do another episode like this one and the Centurions become a lot easier to destroy then it would be a continuity error. It was a new model Cylon ship so, maybe they where new model Centurions.
Personally I like that the Cylons are now tougher to kill, I always thought that the Centurions on Caprica where to easily destroyed. So, no matter what the reason is for it I am happy that they have the change.
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Quote:Aboard a real life warship even without power every major compartment can communicate with each other using sound powered phones. To "cut" communications using these systems you would need to overrun nearly the entire ship since each section can pass on orders from command even if the direct lines to that section from the commander is cut. (IE if the Conn needed to talk to the Engine room but that circuit was cut they could relay the orders to the Galley, and the Galley could relay it to the Engine room.) During battle stations each major compartment would have a “Talker” with a pair of sound powered phones plugged in, all the bridge would need to do is have all the Talkers pass the word “repel borders’ to every compartment.
Originally posted by sneaker98:
Without power in the CIC and communications cut, how could Saul possibly order any and all marines to attack?
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I personally loved this ep, but I have one nagging question: Without power, would Galactica not have gravity? I assume there is some kind of system (electrical?) to generate gravity to keep everyone from floating around.
Everyone dies alone.
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Originally posted by Veteran:
I wasn't aware that Gaeta set up a network. In the first episode of the Mini-Series Adama was dead set against any kind of network, eventhough the ship was going to be a museum. His stance was that the absence of a network was a tactically important aspect of the ship which should be maintained to honor those who served on her. It's hard to imagine he'd reverse himself on that point (the tactical part).
Didn't Adama order Gaeta to calculate some huge jump manaually?
I think your right, there is some implication that Gaeta is a Cylon. Maybe they're just teasing us, letting the audience feel a little of paranoia. How many of the 12 Models have we seen? If you count Centurions and Raiders we know of at least 6. Anyways there's 6-8 models outstanding.
Yeah, I never thought to count the Centurions and Raiders until a friend of mine started listing off which of the twelve models we've seen so far and she mentioned them. I always assumed that Six meant there were 12 HUMAN-STYLE models of Cylon, and that the more robotic models were above and beyond that number. Because my friend also counted the Base Stars. Actually, let's count...
1. Six
2. Leoben
3. That Kevin-Spacy-Looking Guy
4. Boomer
5. Raider
6. Centurion
7. Base Star
8. That Heavy-Raider/Centurion Transport from the last two episodes...
9. (Possibly) That old-style 1979 Centurion model, if they're still in production (one is seen in the museum section of the ship in a display case during the mini-series).
Okay, so number nine is a stretch. But that puts the count at at least eight. Doesn't give them a lot of room to add more human-style Cylons. Of course, the writers could always just say they've added a model, but so far there seems to be a significance to the number 12 on the show.
Gaeta definitely has some Cylon indicators...
1. He missed the Cylon device on the bridge in the miniseries.
2. When Baltar was suspected of helping the Cylons destroy the colonies, the very moment he gave in and prayed to God, Gaeta miraculously found a way to discredit the evidence against him.
3. He had a very conspicuous handshake moment with Boomer right before she blasted the old man. A weapon handoff? A trigger for her to attack? Nothing at all? They definitely drew attention to it.
4. He forgot to relay the new jump coordinates to the fleet, separating BSG from the civilians.
5. As a continuation of 4, he came up with a plan that required networking the computers, which allowed the Cylons to get a virus into Galactica's computer system. So he was responsible for both the problem situation and the risky solution.
Now, all of these things could just be what they look like - coincidences. And maybe they're just trying to spread paranoia like you said. And even if he is a Cylon, he could be Boomer style in that he doesn't KNOW he's a Cylon, he just keeps doing bad things. But it will be interesting to see how it pans out.
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So far the first two eps haven't been all that spectacular... I really hope they do something different soon, its getting boring.
I really wish they'd kill that Baltar fella already, I'm sick of seeing his lame Cylon visions.
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MajorClod wrote:
Wednesday, July 27, 2005 02:15
So far the first two eps haven't been all that spectacular... I really hope they do something different soon, its getting boring.
I agree with your sentiment, i'm not quite at the bored stage yet though.
The entire first season was great and left me hanging for more, these first 2 eps of season 2 just somehow havent sated me..
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The start of this season is majorly different to last season, because virtually all of the main character are out of commission or dislocated.
Adama is in sick bay (Out of Commission)
Roslin is in a Cell (Out of Commission)
Boomer on Galactica(Out of Commission)
Starbuck on Caprica (Dislocated)
Boomer on Caprica (Dislocated)
Baltar on Kobol (Dislocated)
The Chief on Kobol (Dislocate)
I fact every single main character including Tigh, Helo and Apollo are in significantly different roles than they where last season, with the exception of maybe Six, though you could argue that even her role has changed as well.
Personally I have really enjoyed these first two episodes, but I can imagine why having so many main characters out of their traditional roles might be a worry for some viewers. At the moment the show is in a kind of stalemate, which will no doubt sort it self out over the next few weeks.
I'm just happy that they didn't have the false cliff hanger, like so many other shows have, where by the end of the first episode everything is resolve and then the show proceeds like nothing ever happened. At least with Galactica there are consequences, which will take time to resolve, there are no quick fixes like had on Stargate: Atlantis (faking the destruction of Atlantis (with a cloaking devise and real nuclear bomb!), resulting in entire fleet of enemy ship turning around and going home, without even the smallest investigation of the destruction site).
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