A 'The Zeppo' Poll
POSTED BY: batmarlowe
UPDATED: Thursday, June 8, 2006 20:42
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And Wesley the Margaret Dumont?
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Originally posted by oddness2her:
And Wesley the Margaret Dumont?
Wow. Oddly appropriate.
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That's what I figured.
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I hope this doesn't come across as condescending but I'm very impressed that someone in their mid-twenties actually knows there was a Gummo Marx much less knew who Zeppo was. But I guess all us Whedonites are just more up on these things :)
That's not to say I got or understood every single reference myself. Like the William Burroughs one. I mean, I know who he was but I didn't get the joke in the context in which Buffy said it.
And yes oddness2her Wes is the Margaret Dumont. Good call.
Maybe it's just me but I always felt that a 17-18 year old Cordelia Chase would have no idea who Zeppo Marx was. Not that it really matters, it's a great episode and a funny reference.
And in defense of Zeppo they say that offstage he was the funniest one of the lot. And I like the ones with Zeppo better than the ones without (except for A NIGHT AT THE OPERA).
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As Cordelia once said "What, I can't have levels?"
It's amazing what people pick up by osmosis. I could believe Cordy would know the Marx Brothers, if for no other reason than she dated Xander who's likely be familiar with them.
And Cordy would probably kick herself for having picked up more than a few cultural tidbits like that from dating the big geek.
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Yeah I can buy that. Think she and Xander made-out during a Marx Bros. fest? And when they came up for air he said, "Ooh that's Zeppo!"
And I don't mean that sarcastically in case it came off that way.
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Oh, I can imagine that all too clearly.
What I love about these characters is that after a while they can practically write themselves. That's a great example.
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I was 39 when I saw it (am still 39 now, a coupla years later) and totally got as I am pretty huge Marx Bros. fan -- Groucho was my first real hero.
Two points of interest -- a former boss of mine actually played Zeppo in B'way musical that was kind of a high profile flop called "Minnie's Boys." And speaking of being eternally 39, after one out-of-town performance Jack Benny stopped and talked with him for about an hour. Benny and Zeppo were close friends and I think Zeppo had died the year or two before.
The other point of interest. I've been to Gilroy and the whole town smells like garlic, apparently all year long. (It wasn't during the festival!)
Also got/laughed uproariously at the Burroughs joke...compulsary reading back in the punk rock era...
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I got it and I was around 13/14
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Originally posted by batmarlowe:
I hope this doesn't come across as condescending but I'm very impressed that someone in their mid-twenties actually knows there was a Gummo Marx much less knew who Zeppo was. But I guess all us Whedonites are just more up on these things :)
That's not to say I got or understood every single reference myself. Like the William Burroughs one. I mean, I know who he was but I didn't get the joke in the context in which Buffy said it.
And yes oddness2her Wes is the Margaret Dumont. Good call.
Maybe it's just me but I always felt that a 17-18 year old Cordelia Chase would have no idea who Zeppo Marx was. Not that it really matters, it's a great episode and a funny reference.
And in defense of Zeppo they say that offstage he was the funniest one of the lot. And I like the ones with Zeppo better than the ones without (except for A NIGHT AT THE OPERA).
(Sorry to dig up an old thread like this.)
I think it does come off a bit condescending. The Marx brothers made movies through the thirties and fourties. My mother is too young to have seen them in theatres. So there is nothing stranger in a 17-18 year old knowing them than there is with you knowing them (unless you're in your eighties, I guess). Old movies show on TV, and also, there are these places called ...libraries! and video rental stores! Those are where the majority of the movies I watched growing up came from. Thus I am equally as likely to know Charlie Chaplin as Julia Roberts. The invention of the video made a big difference in how movies are watched. Like how many of us on this site only saw Firefly after it was off the air. There's nothing odd about it at all. Remember how whatsisface who dates Buffy for about 3 episodes in Season 3 invites her to a Buster Keaton film festival? Keaton is much more obscure today than the frikkin' Marx brothers.
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