Blueprint conundrum or not

POSTED BY: ManiacNumberOne
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MANIACNUMBERONE

Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:11 AM

Hi kids, as many of you know I have taken it upon myself to create a blueprint of Serenity, if possible. By possible, I don't mean that I may not be able to do it, I mean if the the ship actually does fit together (according to some master plan that we just don't know about) then I am going to figure it out. You may be saying isn't there a blueprint on the Gorram site? well, they have pictures and they have a blueishness, but no, they are definitely not a blueprint. I know you all don't know me, but I would like you to know that this is within my capabilities. And I look forward to it even after 8 hrs of sitting typing at a computer.
Anyway, the reason I am writing this time is I have entered a small conundrum that may or may not have been acknowledged already. In trying to diagram and set up blueprints for the ship, I have had to watch the episodes a lot. (what a chore!) In doing so I take advantage of ship camera shots, which are many, to get the info I need. Many of these shots, of course, are from the perspectives of different members of the crew. (that grammar felt wierd to me) When taking info from shots, when the camera is following River, I have found the layout to be unreliable, or rather inconsistent with what I thought I knew about the layout so far. I am wondering if it this was an accident that hopefully wouldn't be noticed, or if it was intended as a means to depict Rivers displacement.

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Who's winning?
I don't know, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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NOOCYTE

Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:36 AM

Maniac;

Took me a while to figure it out, but the interior layout appears to be consistent.

Re: River travel sequences: Are you referring to her wanderings in OiS? If so, the sequence seems to be as follows: Starts off in the dorm/commons/infirmery area, thence up a flight of steps by the infirmery, up to the corridor between the engine room and the mess (the same steps up which Book follows Mal at beginning of Train Job, while getting all Socratic on him).

From there, she walks toward the bow, through the mess (Book and St. Jayne), then forward to the bridge (Wash and Zoe snogging). Then back down some stairs to the upper catwalk on the forward bulkhead of the cargo hold, the steps---> hatch through which, for example, Wash goes when the "uncivilized" basketball game is interrupted at the beginning of Bushwacked (I believe the stairwell is opposite the upper airlock, on the port side, if you're facing forward). She then passes Mal and Inara on her way down to the forest...I mean cargo hold floor.

Thus does she make a full circuit of Serenity. This is, indeed a good example of how well-laid-out the ship is. Rather more vexing is the question of scale (see the "Serenity Layout" thread, where others and myself have had some to say on that score).

Hope this helps, and REALLY looking forward to seeing your handiwork!

Keep flyin'!

Department of Redundancy Department

NOOCYTE

Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:32 AM

ManiacNumberOne;

Typical Noocyte; blunder in with maximum excitement and minimum humility! Let me back up...are there areas in particular which you are having difficulty reconciling with the relationships among the sets and the exterior of the ship? Perhaps something which I too missed?

Also, what's your expertise that you should be able to undertake such a (to my primitive mind) daunting task as diagramming the Divine Ms. S? Are you in engineering or graphic design?

Keep flyin' (and share the wealth, when your designs are through, please!)!

Department of Redundancy Department

MANIACNUMBERONE

Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:49 AM

Hey Noocyte, I do have graphic design expertise. It's loads of fun. As to the River scene, I think I may have reconciled it. I do have another problem though. I am slightly off on a possible second hallway off from the top of the back set of stairs. (the set that starts at the door of the medical bay) When that staircase meets top of the hallway, (not just the top of the first set of stairs, but after it doglegs left and completes its' flight,) it turns both left and right. when it turns left, it turns left again and ends up in the engine room. but at the top o' the same stairs as just mentioned, when the hallway instead turns right, I am unsure if the hallway continues around a corner to the left after that, or if it just stops.

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Who's winning?
I don't know, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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GROOVYAL

Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:41 PM

There has been an unreal tournament level built in course of the game to geek project. As it was constructed in close cooperation with the producers i'd say it is the most reallistic piece of info you can get.
I wounder if it is awailable somewhere...

TALLGUY

Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GroovyAl:
There has been an unreal tournament level built in course of the game to geek project. As it was constructed in close cooperation with the producers i'd say it is the most reallistic piece of info you can get.
I wounder if it is awailable somewhere...

From what they had published on the site when the show was put on hiatus it wasn't finished yet. Which is a real shame.

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

GROOVYAL

Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:41 PM

yeah right!
but as i got the idea the "architechture" was allready done there was still some retexturing to do.
But maybe the guy who did it finished it allready or even if he didn´t he could publish as an alpha-version for the community to complete it....
That would be somthing, now woudnt it?

RADIOJOE

Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:07 PM

If you get a set of blueprints, I'd love to offer whatever I can do in presentation to share on the web.

I gave up on the Firefly 03 and did a quick and dirty set for the Firefly 01 RPG I posted.

Link is at:

http://members.ispwest.com/radiojoe/firefly

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The bible is very specific on the subject of killing, but it is a might hazy on the topic of kneecaps...

NOOCYTE

Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:28 PM

Hey Maniac. Very shiny that you have GD experience to bring to bear on this fun project. Busy day ahead, but I'll try to lend my modest visualization skills to the stairs question sometime this week-end. Cheers!

Department of Redundancy Department

MANIACNUMBERONE

Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:08 PM

Thanks for your help Noocyte. I have one very important thing to say about Serenity. That is one damn big ship. A lot bigger than I first expected.

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Who's winning?
I don't know, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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