The Zeppo was awesome!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 6, 2005 02:55
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Chrisisall, it's already a little late, but Angel's first season and Buffy's fourth are frequently linked together, with what happens on Buffy being continued on Angel. It really helps to watch them together, with a Buffy episode first, followed by the corresponding Angel. On Angel, Angel calls Buffy in the first ep, for example, and then hangs up without talking to her. If you'd watched Buffy first, you'd have seen that call from her point of view. I'd highly recommend viewing the rest of these particular two seasons together, and, especially, the seventh eps of their next seasons, it adds an extra dimension to both shows.
As for Angel's first season, most reviews of the show are of the opinion that it didn't start to take off until about halfway through. I'd put it a little earlier, but the second half of the first season and the first 19 eps of the second are my favorites of the run.
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Thanks for the heads up.
Angelmobile. How silly.
To the Chrismobile Chrisisall
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Originally posted by fray101:
watched Seasons 3-5 straight through, 2 episodes a night (OK, I'm sounding a little sad now).
Nah, that's how I did Buffy S3! And I have a life, too. No, really I do. I swear!
Ask my son, err..what's his name?
Arghh Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Grounded:
were you actually expecting to see all these Buffy characters crossing over in the first four eps?
I don't mean I wanted to see 'em, I mean it just 'feels' like family, and I guess the first 4 eps of Angel haven't developed that quality yet.
Seein' Oz was funny Chrisisall
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Of course Angel hasn't built up a "family" in the first four episodes. He's Angel. He spent 90 years pretty much on his own; it was only learning about Buffy's plight that got him out of the dumpster (literally). He's Mr. Broodypants, and he just can't find 6 friends to hang out with and love forever and ever within a few weeks of moving to L.A. Angel's emotional journey is one of the most fascinating things about the show. How he begins to relate to people--even if he doesn't actually want to--is what drives everything. The family togetherness (uh...) will come. It's a journey. A wacky roller-coaster ride of Angel and his mental health issues.
I love the first episode, but the ones after that aren't so strong. It gets better and better each time out in the first season. It gets less and less monster-of-the-week/detective and becomes more about motivation and motives and all sorts of things. The show can be so amazing. And Firefly fans should find a lot to recognize in Angel. I think thematically it's more similar than in Buffy. Angel is about adults who know who they are, but live in a very gray and murky world. Bad guys (or dudes with horns and a tail) are maybe not such bad guys. Good guys have shady pasts and sometimes still do shady things. It's about how to live in a tough world and how to become an example of something positive in that world.
When you're a 240-something year old who once murdered thousands of people but is now trying for redemption, how can you possibly fit in? When you live in a society who would hate you and want to chop off your head if they knew what you were, how can you make a difference? Should you even bother?
I've gone on for way too long. Sometimes I just miss my show so much.
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Originally posted by amyel:
I've gone on for way too long. Sometimes I just miss my show so much.
You sound like I do when I go on about Dark Angel. Angel got 5 seasons, that's something. Firefly has ignited a movie.
Dark Angel lived a shorter life.*he sniffles*
But it was good while it lasted.
Off to rent more Angel eps.
No show rules me Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
One question also about BS4, do they handle Willow realizing she's gay believably? There was no hint of a gay bone in her body in the first three seasons- does it come off okay, or is it kinda phoney?
She was all over Oz Chrisisall
Actually, there's a scene in Doppelgangland that's pretty blatant in hindsight.
I second the recommendation that you watch Bs4 and As1 together.
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Angel > Dark Angel ;)
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Originally posted by zaogao:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
One question also about BS4, do they handle Willow realizing she's gay believably? There was no hint of a gay bone in her body in the first three seasons- does it come off okay, or is it kinda phoney?
She was all over Oz Chrisisall
Actually, there's a scene in Doppelgangland that's pretty blatant in hindsight.
I don't think it's that blatant to be honest. It's suggestive, but Vamp Willow and Xander aren't exactly 'just friends' in the Wishverse are they?
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WILLOW
(appalled)
It's horrible! That's me as a vampire? I'm so evil and... skanky. (quietly, to Buffy) And I think I'm kinda gay.
BUFFY
Willow, just remember, a vampire's personality has nothing to do with the person it was.
ANGEL
Well, actually... (off Buffy's look) that's a good point.
Maybe not blatant...but definitely in the realm of foreshadowing.
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