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Actions have consequences - Newsweek apologizes for Quran story

POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Friday, May 27, 2005 09:51
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Isn't it weird that we can hold people prisoner without trial, end their civil rights, torture them for information and things are relatively quiet. Then a news story gets published about a book getting destroyed and suddenly the Islamic world is up in arms?

There's some weird value judgements going on in the world today.



Isn't really weird how people can see innocent third-party non-combatants being brutally beheaded by Muslim fanatics and not get upset, but when prisoners are stripped naked and photographed they lose their minds?

Weird value judgments indeed.

What I find absolutely disgusting--forget weird--is how the left will give the benefit of the doubt to the Muslim fanatics, but won't extend the same to the military forces of their own country.

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Er, how does my comment in any way give the benefit of the doubt to Muslim fanatics? If you actually read it, it's a judgement against Muslim fanatics for being more concerned about the pages of a book than human beings.

And once more, two wrongs don't make a right. I firmly believe that our nations (the US and the UK) are better than theirs so let's keep proving that by acting like civilised human beings and not go down to their level.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:46 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Isn't it weird that we can hold people prisoner without trial, end their civil rights, torture them for information and things are relatively quiet. Then a news story gets published about a book getting destroyed and suddenly the Islamic world is up in arms?

There's some weird value judgements going on in the world today.



I agree. I read everyone's posts and I think most of the discussion is irrelevant. The ultimate responsibility here lies with the American government's irresponisble decision to detain all these people in the first place. I think everyone can agree that we would be far better off if we had just chopped their heads off on live TV like the rest of the world seems to prefer.

Our commitment to human rights and values, continues to cause us trouble.

Perhaps we should require our media to submit to govt censors to ensure their stories send the right message. That works in other countries as well.

If we executed our prisoners and our less cooperative media, then not only would our immediate problems be solved, but our long term ones as well, after all the terrorists would no longer want to fight us, cause it'd be like fighting themselves. We could join them and together we and the terrorists could bring down all the worlds Democratic governments and wipe the Jews from the earth. Because ultimately its not about the Koran, the war on terror, or anything else, its about killing jews, enslaving women, and concentrating power in the hands of radical Islamic clerics. And I think we can all get behind that, since we can't seem to get behind those who oppose them.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:08 PM

I don't think anyone can see the current United States government joining forces with a terrorist group. After all, one of those two is a group who doesn't care about human life, attacks targets even when thousands of civilians will die, ignores basic human rights and hides behind their projected image of being "religious", all to promote their new world order.

Just because Stalin invaded Nazi Germany doesn't mean he was a good guy. Just because you think the US government is acting illegally, immorally and illogically doesn't mean that you support the other guys.

>> I think everyone can agree that we would be far better off if we had just chopped their heads off on live TV like the rest of the world seems to prefer.

I think you'll find "the rest of the world" is actually a good deal more civilised than you think. For example, we consider capital punishment an abomination. How about you?

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Friday, May 20, 2005 6:18 AM

do you truly believe that the violence in Afganstan has to do with a article in NewsWeek!!!

which happens to be old news anyway!!


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Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:12 AM

Did anyone read the March story in Harper's, Flushed With Enthusiasm?
http://www.harpers.org/TheArmyWeHave.html
I guess Harper's needs to hire away Newsweek's Afghanistan circulation department. Yup, that's the only logical explanation I can conjure.
My, isn't the sky a pretty shade of polka-dot today?

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Friday, May 27, 2005 9:51 AM

Answer came there none.
But that was hardly strange,
As they had been,
And done,
And gone.


So let's have no more foolishness that it is the reports, and not the actions, that provoke the response.

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