Actions have consequences - Newsweek apologizes for Quran story
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Friday, May 27, 2005 09:51
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Do you make a POINT of missing the point?
My God. You wonder why Geezer et al don't listen to you? Because you come from the stand point that you can't possibly be wrong and therefore won't listen to the opinions of others (especially those of a conservative/pro-military perspective). You seem to think that if someone's beliefs run contrary to yours, it isn't because they've made an informed (but alternate) decision--it's because they're stupid. Why should anyone bother interacting with you? You've made it manifestly clear that all you're interested in is 1) trashing the administration, 2) trashing the military, and 3) trashing the U.S. in general. And as an conservative Republican military veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq, that's awfully irritating. It's clear we're not going to agree. But the least we can do is agree to disagree and leave each other alone. Run along, now.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh please Geezer, I knew you would say that... except when they're trumped by Bush & Co.
Let's see- you couldn't decide if the commandment was about "killing" or "murder". You identify with Mal and and Zoe because of their "optimism" but kind of miss their relationship with authority. You are all tweaked about the 15 dead due to THIS story, but not about the 6000+ dead in Iraq. (Your first line would work even better about the WMD coverage.) You support "our troops" except when they're getting killed, in which case you support the command structure all the way up to that lying SOB in office.
Do you make a POINT of missing the point?
Sorry. I thought for a moment that I might have the privilege of discussing what I wanted in my own thread without having to deal with the "Protector of Evil" label and an inquisition about something from another topic entirely.
I keep forgetting that no one except yourself has a right to an opinion, and that any variation from your party line makes one fair game for insult, derision and hatred. Sort of makes trying to actually have a discussion with you an excercise in futility.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Edit: Oh,darn. Crossposted with Inevitable. Now it's gonna look like a right-wing conspiracy to pile on poor SignyM.
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I'm not claiming that Geezer disagrees with me. The problem is he disagrees with HIMSELF. And it's not because Geezer is stupid. Far from it, he is a very bright individual.
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Hello Geezer. 
Oh yes, poor me! (sob sob) That's okay, no offense taken. In any case, I think I've made my point, so I'll be out of this thread.
Have a nice day, y'all.
Edited to add: On reflection, I apologize for stomping around in hobnail boots.
Have a nice day- again.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
[Edit: Oh,darn. Crossposted with Inevitable. Now it's gonna look like a right-wing conspiracy to pile on poor SignyM.
ROFLMMFAO
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I think I've made my point, so I'll be out of this thread.
Thank GOD.
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Isn't it weird that we can hold people prisoner without trial, end their civil rights, torture them for information and things are relatively quiet. Then a news story gets published about a book getting destroyed and suddenly the Islamic world is up in arms?
There's some weird value judgements going on in the world today.
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Isn't it weird that we can hold people prisoner without trial, end their civil rights, torture them for information and things are relatively quiet. Then a news story gets published about a book getting destroyed and suddenly the Islamic world is up in arms?
There's some weird value judgements going on in the world today.
Isn't really weird how people can see innocent third-party non-combatants being brutally beheaded by Muslim fanatics and not get upset, but when prisoners are stripped naked and photographed they lose their minds?
Weird value judgments indeed.
What I find absolutely disgusting--forget weird--is how the left will give the benefit of the doubt to the Muslim fanatics, but won't extend the same to the military forces of their own country.
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" These are just some of the reasons why the International Red Cross, etc are there to monitor the condition and treatment of prisoners. When the US government started this " illegal combatant " nonsense, they not only declared themselves above international law, but also exposed themselves to problems like this. "
I would have made this point reguardless of who made this decision. Not allowing the Red Cross in to monitor
A) Makes it look like something is going on
B) Puts the people serving in these places in the worse possible position in reguards to liability, look at the Iraq prison scandal.
C) Opens your own people up to the same treatment
" let's just wait and see what the evidence says "
I'm saying the damage has been done, the evidence, the truth for that matter is irrelevant. The perception of what may have happened has and will continue to do this damage, and it is not the fault of the poor bastard in Gitmo, it is the way this situation has been handled from day one. Secret Trials, secret investigations.... no amount of evidence will be completly accepted.
" Looking for a place to happen
Making stops along the way "
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