BTVS - the movie

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:01 AM

Actually the film version put me off from watching the series when it first aired.

I saw the film in the cinema and along with a few other films around that time, it went some way to putting me off films altogether...At least going to the cinema and watching them.

There are some moments which are entertaining, as you mentioned Paul Reubens - he was pretty watchable, and I liked the idea of marshal arts being used, I remember that, but the character grated on me - there was no development to her and her lines were delivered with no knowing irony so the jokes didn't feel like jokes at all. Merely poor dialogue.

It's weird now to think Rutger Hauer was in that film? Just think what Joss could achieve now with such an actor?

Still a friend insisted I watch the series and by about the six or seventh episode I was really into it.

I like you're idea of writing a scene from an episode... That's quite a cool idea for a regular thread, like the caption one. Someone chooses a scene for one week and we all come up with an alternative for it... Or a follow up scene. Could this work?

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Somnambulist

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FRAY101

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:05 AM

Funny this thread should reappear now - for those of us in the UK, the film's on BBC1 this Friday so now's your chance to re-evaluate it, catch it for the first time or just wonder how Hilary Swank ended up as dual Oscar winner!

This is what Joss had to say on the film:

"About an hour into the movie, I just started to cry, a single manly tear rolling down my cheek. I was heartbroken."

I remember thinking the trailer looked pretty funny (silly things like Buffy telling Pee Wee Herman's character to clap after she'd cut his arm off made me laugh!). And I do think the film has its moments. What I find amusing is that when they had the flashbacks in "Becoming" they styled SMG's Buffy on Kristy Swanson's version.

"Why would I want to leave Serenity?"
"Can't think of a reason."

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EVILTOBZ

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Actually the film version put me off from watching the series when it first aired.

me too, but for the exact opposite reason. i love the film and i really love kristy swanson in it :) when they brought out a series with someone else playing buffy i was less than amused. especially as i find smg to be nothing special to look at. i saw the odd bit here and there and didn't hate it, but never with an open enough mind to really get into it until season 4 with a few scenes from spike really making me realise what i'd been missing from which i got into both angel and buffy in a big dvd box set collecting way.

i tend to view them as completely independant entities which i love in different ways, but i still think it's a shame that the series didn't start with kristy's buffy getting swamped by the vamps and smg coming into her power as the slayer, but not buffy. that'd've got me into it a whole lot quicker.

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FRAY101

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by eviltobz:
me too, but for the exact opposite reason. i love the film and i really love kristy swanson in it :) when they brought out a series with someone else playing buffy i was less than amused. especially as i find smg to be nothing special to look at. ]

You might want to stay away from the Graphic Novel, Origin, which rehashes the movie but with the likeness of SMG.

I agree with your point about regarding them as separate entities. The movie's enjoyable in it's own way, there's just little point comparing it the series which followed.

"Why would I want to leave Serenity?"
"Can't think of a reason."

Over 100 Serenity screencaps now available at http://disneypix.tripod.com/destiny

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by eviltobz:
me too, but for the exact opposite reason. i love the film and i really love kristy swanson in it :) when they brought out a series with someone else playing buffy i was less than amused.

Interesting - funnily enough I'd never looked at it like that. I found the character to be incomplete so I wasn't bothered by the Kristy Swanson to Sarah Michelle Gellar switch...

The other interesing thing is that neither women made me want to watch the show particualrly. I'm actually quite proud of that...
...The only time I've been struck by anything like that was Ornella Muti who played Ming the Merciless' daughter in Flash Gordon.... Talk about sexual awakening!!! How fair was that on a twelve year old kid!

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CALHOUN

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:40 AM

Wow! This is an old thread.

When I last posted here I think i'd only just seen the first episode of Buffy and hadnt seen any Angel.

I can now proudly admit to owning every ep of Buffy and Angel on DVD. I must admit to thoroughly enjoying both series.

My situation had its pro's and cons's. When I started watching these shows had all been aired and were available on DVD so I didnt have to wait week by week for a new episode. Once I had seen a few episodes the DVD purchases started happening frequently. I think had watched every episode in about 2 or 3 months.

"pro" being that I didnt have to wait week by week, I just crammed 7 yrs of Buffy and 5 yrs of Angel into my brain as fast as I could.

"Con" being that it was all over too fast! I think there is something to be said for taking it slow and savouring the episodes.

DIETCOKE

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:03 PM

This movie I saw after I saw all the episodes of Buffy. It was painful to watch. Just painful. Bad acting all around.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:54 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
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...The only time I've been struck by anything like that was Ornella Muti who played Ming the Merciless' daughter in Flash Gordon.... Talk about sexual awakening!!! How fair was that on a twelve year old kid!
-still spinning- The Somnambulist

I'm with ya on that one, pal. There was something verrry....Penthouse about her...way too much sexuality for a movie like that.

I got the Buffy movie to compare to the series as I'm watching S2 now, and in my memory, the vampire stuff was pretty serious, but after getting into the series I have to say I had a hard time getting through the movie!!!
And Rutger and Donald looked bored.

Plowin' thru S2 Chrisisall

KAYLEE4SIMON

Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:32 AM

My favorite part of the movie is when they are coming up with a dance idea.

what about the ozone layer?
Yeah, we totally have to get rid of that!

Keep shiny!

ANTHONYT

Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:28 AM

Here I present myself as bullseye.

I thought Buffy was cute, and it had occasional deep emotional content. Angel was mildly interesting.

Neither show hooked me. I understood the messages in the show, they just didn't hook me.

I guess my real problem with Buffy is the same problem I have with Blade.

Vampires are supposed to be tough, horrible creatures. Nearly impossible to kill. Only defeatable through incredible effort, thought, and skill.

Buffy can be seen to stake a half dozen vamps in a five minute interval. Unfortunately, a hero is only as great as their villain. When your villain takes ten seconds to dispose of, it makes the villain look weak... and by association, it makes you look less spectacular, too.

I mean, you watch buffy and you can't help but think that if you had a Khukri and a .45, you could ace these vamps, too.

Compare that to Niska's people, who wounded, beat up, captured, and tortured Mal.

Compare that to Patience, whose crew shot Zoe in the chest and would have killed her but for the armor... even while they were being sniped at.

Compare that to Jubal Early, who initially defeated, outsmarted, and/or intimidated every member of the ship but River.

Compare that to a room full of barroom brawlers, who managed to fight Mal, Jayne, and Zoe onto a cliff's edge.

In Firefly, the crew is wicked awesome, but they're awesome because they struggle to be awesome. We see them try and strive and succeed in spite of the odds. And that makes them seem cooler than a 'superhero' who can yawn while dispatching foes.

River's the closest thing to a Buffy or Blade that Firefly offers, and her uberness is offset by her insanity. She can't even rely on her self. Her powers are inconsistent.

I like weaknesses in my heroes. I like it when they have to try.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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