Piracy and My Favorite Show: Firefly
POSTED BY: EndangeredMassa
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 02:42
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Originally posted by Phoebe:
Don't all pounce on me here, but I've been told that the parent of someone I know has a pirate copy of Serenity from the preview screenings in London. It was NOT hard to get a video camera in.
Sigh. If this is true, and it leaks around, I can well see a major storm kicking off. For a start, the cinema in question has CCTV. They know where we all live. It is a crime, with prison sentencing, in the UK. Etc. Etc.
I literally can't believe somebody has pirated it from the UK - that is _shameful_.
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I seriously hope that there aren't any browncoats planning to pirate the movie.
Hardly a real browncoat if they are!
PsychicRiver
"Two by two, hands of blue." 
"We can take care of each other. I'll knit!"
Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."
Me - 
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Given that the screenings in London were several months ago, I think it's fair to say that either a) they aren't going to release it or b) they never had a copy of it. Either is fine by me.
As for pirating the TV show... well, depriving Fox of money... *tries hard to make himself feel bad*. Nope, not happening.
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Quote:Maybe. But if you did watch a pirate copy, you'd (assumingly) think the film was amazing, and want to watch it again, and maybe perhaps another time. This is the kinda excited hype that would make you go back to the cinema maybe 3 or 4 times when the film comes out. But this may be lost if you've seen the film a few times already.
Originally posted by MajorClod:
As for Serenity, I doubt I'd be watching a pirated version unless it was extremely good quality, I hate cam jobs.
No doubt even if I did have it, I'd still be watching it in theatres numerous times.
PsychicRiver
"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We can take care of each other. I'll knit!"
Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."
Me -
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Quote:That's fustrating. Everyone really wanted those screenings, and we were given them.
Originally posted by Phoebe:
I've been told that the parent of someone I know has a pirate copy of Serenity from the preview screenings in London. It was NOT hard to get a video camera in.
Some people are given an inch and they take a mile.PsychicRiver
"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We can take care of each other. I'll knit!"
Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."
Me -
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Originally posted by SimonWho:
As for pirating the TV show... well, depriving Fox of money... *tries hard to make himself feel bad*. Nope, not happening.
My thoughts too. I have thought about it, but still can't bring myself to do it.
Even if someone did it, really what harm would it do? Sales of the box set are inconsequential right now. We have the BDM with the understanding if the *movie* does well, we'll get more movies. The box set sales have already done there job.
And if ripping the box set and sending it out does it's job of getting people out to see the movie(s), then what harm could it do? I really don't see a dark side here.
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Seriously, when is the last time anyone could say that they've seen a GREAT movie!
May 5th.
Anyway it sounds like you guys have come up with rules for pirating any movie ever.
1.) If I like it enough to pay for it
2.) If I don't like it enough to pay for it
3.) If rule 1 and 2 do not apply
Let's just face it, pirating movies is wrong. It's going to cut into the box office numbers somewhat. If a person is intrigued enough to download the movie then they have enough intrest to go see it or rent it.
If anyone pirates this movie I'll personally never forgive them. Then I'll download it cause I really really wanna see it again and again. Which I doubt will stop me from going again and again when the movie hits theaters.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Let's just face it, pirating movies is wrong.
This is a matter of opinion and your over simplification is a joke. This situation is far more complex than that. Also, your "simplification" of my rules for downloading is insulting. I can see the difference between illegal and wrong, can't you? And even then, which countries laws are you refering to? Laws regarding this differ widly from country to country.
In todays day and age, depending on circumstances, I really don't think that "pirating" is wrong. ie If I bought a product that turned out to be a peice of go-se, I can return it, get my money back. Not so with a movie in the theater, that money is gone forever. And I'm not in a financial situation such that I can afford to waste that much money nor can I nor do I feel that I must waste that much time.
My point is that the movie theaters are not making an effort to make going to movies affordable nor enjoyable.
My point is that the companies that make movies are doing nothing to make those movies enjoyable. Instead they are making movies that only cater to the lowest common denomenator. ie The Pacifier, National Treasure, etc, in general, movies that make things go boom. And even the "good" ones aren't that good, they're just so-so.
This has forced me into a situation that I'm not happy with. Do I put myself through an experience that will take away from a movie that I want to see and may have enjoyed, or do I actually enjoy it putting my money in the part of the system that I feel most comfortable with for that particular movie?
I have been screwed by misleading commercials, etc far too many times to allow myself to be fooled again. If they want my money, they'll work for it, and that hasn't been happening for a long time. Thus I will try before I buy.
Fact of the matter is that the movie industry has enjoyed total control for a *very* long time. Fact of the matter is that with the advent of wideband, the balance of power has shifted to the end consumer. So, the logical conclusion is to raise the quality of movies so that more will go see them, tighen security so that screener don't get out, etc. Wait, I said logical, which we all know that these execs are exactly not! ie F*X.
Now instead of making good movies (for the most part, once in a blue moon one slips through the cracks), instead of tightening there own security, etc, they are lobbying for a landslide of unenforcable laws and putting on massive propagana campains to brainwash people into thinking that this is wrong and they're losing tonnes of money.
Losing money.. bullshit. Money can only be counted as a loss if someone would've gone and seen it, which most won't.
ie The recording industry of Canada has stated that they've had to make layoffs, etc because they aren't making as much money and have pointed to decreasing profits as "proof" that piracy is seriously effecting there industry.
Fact of the matter is that if you correct those numbers for economic recession, etc the recording industry has gone through this time the best! Comparing to other industries the recording industry has had the least layoffs, decrease in profits, etc. And those other industries are not affected by "piracy."
I would imagine similarly for the movie industry.
The fact of the matter is that this isn't going away; the genie is out of the bottle. The fact of the matter is that making new laws to make this illegal isn't going to solve the problem. The fact of the matter is that these industries are going to have to learn to accept this situation and find creative solutions to solve this "problem."
We all remember when the movie industry shouted that with the advent of recorders that the industry will fall apart etc. We all remember when the recording industry said the same with tapes and cd's. Well, it's been some time and both are still thriving.
As I've stated above, the simple solution of making better movies and making a better viewing experience will so
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Actually, what discourages ME from big screen movie theatres was mentioned earlier..
Yeah, try to watch a movie with 2 cell phones ringing and some asswipe in the back row discussing his gory medical procedure with his mother in law, add in a squalling kid, and some jerk (who shockingly turned out to be a lil old lady) kicking the back of your seat over and over hard enough to crush kidney stones.
This combined with crush-seating practically stacked on top of each other, and at angles so bad you have to practically put your BACK on the seat cushion to see the screen, only.. wait, you CAN'T see.. cause you're 5'6" and the guy in front of you is 6'2" and seems to have elephantitis of the head or something and you can neither see, nor hear, a damned thing...
There's a couple of older, very run down places here with better seating, less crowds, and in spite of the fact that they're all beat to hell and run down, a hell of a lot better atmosphere.
I figure it'd be more in keeping with our BDH's to see the BDM in a busted up, run down theatre run by folks just tryin to get by.
Cause these newfangled modern places ? they suck, and so do the people in em, and when i'm watchin the BDM, *IF YOUR CELL PHONE RINGS*... you will be wishing I was as kind and fluffy as Jayne Cobb.... 
Anyhow, done ranting, maybe I made a point, I dunno, but mannnn I hadda get that off my chest.
-F
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I cannot belive what I am reading. Even if Fox is getting the money for the FF dvd set.. aren't the actors getting a royalty? Aren't you hurting Joss by doing that?
And if you say it is not wrong, how so? It IS stealing. There is no other thing to call it. Someone else made it. There is a warning saying don't steal it. Piracy = uncreative folks leeching from those who move and change our world.
You cannot justify stealing it. If you hate going to the movie theater, don't go. Wait for the DVD release. If the DVD's are too expensive, get a better job. If you cannot handle it, that does not mean you should steal it. Show some character and integrity.
And title of this post says it all:
v. pi·rat·ed, pi·rat·ing, pi·rates
v. tr.
To attack and rob (a ship at sea).
To take (something) by piracy.
To make use of or reproduce (another's work) without authorization.
I just hope you all get caught, now wouldn't that be shiny.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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