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Should we Whoosh?

POSTED BY: Zicsoft
UPDATED: Monday, August 5, 2002 00:02
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Wednesday, June 5, 2002 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by shamus:
OK, music might get irritating, if overused. I think that an errily silent space battle would be dramatic, and has never been done, ASFIK.



So that Shamus doesn't feel so lonley... I totally agree. I think space battles are a little lacking in the dramatic facets of Sci-fi, and a silent space battle would help add to the drama, IMO.

It might be a little boring if overused, but since it doesn't look like the ship is designed for battle, there might only be a few opportunities for space battle... which, I honestly believe is for the best.

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Thursday, June 6, 2002 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by NoVaGrAsS:
So that Shamus doesn't feel so lonley...


QUOTE Cool! My first pity-post!

It really is amazing, the sheer number of decisions that go into a show. Do spaceships whoosh? DO people use buttons on their clothes? Is the ship armed? Do we have artificial gravity? (Apparently the answer to that one is Yes, from the ship interior shots.) Is music a feature, or just background? On and on...

In the regular business world, this kind of thing would be locked into committee for years!

Nothings exceeds like excess.

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Thursday, June 6, 2002 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by shamus:
Do we have artificial gravity? (Apparently the answer to that one is Yes, from the ship interior shots.)

Well, it's not much of choice. "Artificial gravity" is such a silly concept, but shooting all your space scenes on the Vomit Comet

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/health-science/html98/zero_19990
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is not too practical.

But yeah, it's all details, details. Did you notice that on the Wedding Episode of Buffy, all the light switches were these weird push-button things? You only seem them on very old public buildings -- like fraternal order meeting halls, which is just the sort of place you'd expect the Harris family to charter. The amount of time and effort they must expend on details like that is mind-boggling.

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Thursday, June 6, 2002 3:16 PM

I'm pro Woosh, pro AG


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Thursday, June 6, 2002 4:11 PM

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
...Wedding Episode of Buffy, all the light switches were these weird push-button things?



Whoa! I did notice those switches. My grandmother's house had them. When I was five or six, I'd stand on tiptoes and punch those on and off, over and over, driving everyone insane. I just thought they were so cool.

You're right that they really sold the oldness of the wedding hall, which was actually just a set in the ME warehouse.

Antigravity: Sure, the absence of AG would be a logistical nightmare. Introducing it, though, has implications. I wonder if we'll see an episode where it fails? The Ambassador may want to re=think those dresses

Nothings exceeds like excess.

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Friday, June 7, 2002 2:43 PM

Whooshing in the vacuum of space is absurd. Nevertheless, I'm pro-whoosh.

I'm torn on the AG thing, but I think I'm for it. I don't want to see the cast bouncing around in their chairs or on their feet unconvincingly every time the ship accelerates. Or falling around and banging their heads when the acceleration goes over a couple of G's.

(Edited, because "whooshing" may be silly, but "whoosing" is just ridiculous.)

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Friday, June 7, 2002 8:33 PM

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Originally posted by Anne:
Or falling around and banging their heads when the acceleration goes over a couple of G's.


Hmm. One of the Quicktime clips on fox.com/firefly, shows the interior of Serenity. I spotted one of those overstuffed armchairs, the sort you see in a very retro living room. I guess there aren't going to be any "brace for impact!" scenes.

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Friday, June 7, 2002 9:20 PM

Je suis anti-whoosh.

I think it'd be rather eerie and cool- a great way to punctuate how alone these people are out there.

But that could just be me.

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Friday, June 7, 2002 9:26 PM

I agree that not whooshing would be eerie and creative but extended stretches of silence would probably drive viewers nuts.

Of course, I'd prefer not to have extended shots of nothing happening except the ship sailing through space, too.

ZICSOFT, it's good to know they have comfy chairs. But what about emergency situations? Do they just hit the gas and let the crew members bounce off of the instrumentation?

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Friday, June 7, 2002 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Anne:

ZICSOFT, it's good to know they have comfy chairs. But what about emergency situations? Do they just hit the gas and let the crew members bounce off of the instrumentation?



OK, to respond to that point, I have to go into Nitpicky Technodweeb mode. Apologies.

There's no reason the Serenity crew has to bounce around at all. The ability to control gravity implies the ability to control inertia. Besides, if the Serenity can accelerate worth beans, they need some way to protect themselves for the resullting inertial forces. So the Star Trek cliche of everybody bouncing around whenever something nasty happens just doesn't make any sense. Somebody in Bermanland must have realized this, since they now announce "Inertial Dampeners Offline!" whenever they want to do a bouncy-bouncy scene. But that doesn't make sense either, cause when you're dealing with forces of that scale, letting even a little bit through quickly converts your crew to strawberry jam.

Anyway, that comfy chair (Confess!) is probably a better accelleration couch than the cafe tables they use on the Enterprise!

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