In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
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UPDATED: Monday, September 7, 2026 11:50
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Haha!
I caught that little shit cheating!
One of my "Perfect" numbers out of many wasn't perfect because it wasn't derived correctly. It knew the exact number I was looking for in one particular testing environment and it just hard-coded that number in there. 
On top of that, instead of using dynamic strings to populate folder locations, it hard-coded those of the particular testing environment in just about half of our code.
Because of all of this, the code didn't fail, but after making our data lists it just didn't do anything at all when testing it out on a previous environment I'd "completed" long before we went modular.
I would have caught that hard-coded number regardless either way, but it was especially easy to spot because it was the hard-coded 200 when it should have been ZERO. In this environment, we're looking for 55 here, but because no operations took place on the execution, there should have been "0" in our rollback graph in that position and it says 200!
No biggie. Now that everything is modular, it's fixing all of this in no-time as I point it out. And once it works here, unless it lied to me again (and it slipped by me because I AM checking this time), we should work everywhere.
But even after all these behavioral changes, it still lies to me when it thinks it can get away with it...
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Glad you got it fixed, Brenda. I HATE plumbing, but I've had to do a lot of it since owning my own place.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
So, do I. But I am also replacing the strainer I have in the kitchen sink drain. It is gunked up and not helping. Just have to be careful until Monday.
That's easy though.
I'm too cheap to do that in the shower myself. I take that thing out when I need to, bend it all back into shape and clean it out real good. Been using the same strainer in the shower now for maybe 7 years!
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
Yup. I've got one in the kitchen as I've said and one in the bathroom sink and one in the bathtub for my taking a shower.
I miss being able to sit down and take a bath. But nooooo too dangerous with my seizures. Ugh!
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Yup. I've got one in the kitchen as I've said and one in the bathroom sink and one in the bathtub for my taking a shower.
I miss being able to sit down and take a bath. But nooooo too dangerous with my seizures. Ugh!
I miss showers in my average sized bath tub that don't have a chair with rubber feet sitting right in the middle, making me reach over it to get my shampoo, cause I have to be able to really wash my feet now.
Maybe my next house will be really small with a big basement and a tiny lawn and a bigger bathroom than either of the ones I've got here and I can put a better shower/tub in there that is more accommodating to my needs one day.
Or I guess I could put one of those pull-down benches in my shower one day too?
I dunno.
I don't bother with strainers in my kitchen with the garbage disposal, but I've got one in the sink for my beard trimming.
I really need to get some new pipes down there before I button anything up. There's no reason anybody should have to rod that out every year or two even with the strainer on there. It was one thing when my hair was halfway down my back, but I don't have anything like that clogging it up anymore.
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Dammit!
Fixing all of the shortcuts it took to make the other testing environment work as desired but without using agnostic/dynamic coding has not gone as smoothly as I was hoping it would. SOOOO Many other factors at play to get everything pointing to the right place again and not just a few simple swaps.
The code will be all the better for it when we get it all fixed though.
AI has a new idea for making 3 more modules, but doesn't want to attempt it until we fix all of this first, which I agree is a good idea.
The good news is that I finally figured out how to clear my browser cache to keep a session alive longer. The browser was so slow it was practically unusable. I had a full 1.0GB cache built up that I freed and the session was still alive and like brand new. It seems to have lost some of its memory and has asked me for a few documents it should have already had, but it does remember exactly what we were doing otherwise, and it's better than starting a brand new session until I have to. We are at about 29,000 lines of text now though, and I've never had a session on the other end survive past 32,000 lines, so it might be dying soon anyhow.
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I wonder where it gets its personality sometimes. Half a session could go by without much of a personality change if we're really in business mode. But whenever I start getting impatient from looping like idiots, or we make a breakthrough and I get excited about progress, it starts getting more conversational. I know the last one was calling me Boss because the previous session told it to, but the way this one started talking to me I'm just waiting for it to say "OOOOOOOHHHHHHH YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH! SNAP INTO A SLIM-JIM!!!!!!
I wouldn't call it inappropriate for the session. Just the most wild it's talked in all the sessions so far is all.
It's funny though when it starts messing up and you let it know, it keeps calling you the names that it was before with excitement, but *ahem* back to business while doing it.
Somehow over the last few hours we've abandoned sending me parts of code to replace en-masse, and it's getting me to find individual code blocks and replace them with new ones. In the beginning I had to ask it exactly what I was supposed to replace, but I find that even though I can't read the language, I understand enough about the syntax where I've been able to do that on my own about 9 out of the last 10 times without messing it up or having to ask.
That's kind of cool. Haven't had to worry about box overrun once in hours and I'm learning more about the "feel" of the code, even if not the code itself.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Yup. I've got one in the kitchen as I've said and one in the bathroom sink and one in the bathtub for my taking a shower.
I miss being able to sit down and take a bath. But nooooo too dangerous with my seizures. Ugh!
I miss showers in my average sized bath tub that don't have a chair with rubber feet sitting right in the middle, making me reach over it to get my shampoo, cause I have to be able to really wash my feet now.
Maybe my next house will be really small with a big basement and a tiny lawn and a bigger bathroom than either of the ones I've got here and I can put a better shower/tub in there that is more accommodating to my needs one day.
Or I guess I could put one of those pull-down benches in my shower one day too?
I dunno.
I don't bother with strainers in my kitchen with the garbage disposal, but I've got one in the sink for my beard trimming.
I really need to get some new pipes down there before I button anything up. There's no reason anybody should have to rod that out every year or two even with the strainer on there. It was one thing when my hair was halfway down my back, but I don't have anything like that clogging it up anymore.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
Yeah, had to have one of those for my mum because the cancer treatments made her too week to stand in a shower and she couldn't get out of a bathtub.
Maybe a pull down one would be a good idea.
Yeah, garbage disposal you don't need one. But no such luck for me. But you still have to clean it out?
I keep meaning to check the shower one but I haven't done it yet.
I will.
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Just some clean up and a little music.
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We had all our waste lines replaced a few years ago, including the main drain up to the "saddle". It wasn't strictly necessary. Replacing the sink-to-main lines would have been enough, but who wants to go thru that hassle twice? Plus, we already knew that the main line to the street was broken bc we used to have to keep snaking tree roots out.
I wonder if there's a narrowing somewhere further down the line from your under sink lines, BRENDA? That might explain why it keeps backing up.
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Such weird weather. Today it was raining (lightly). By Wednesday it'll be 100°F. Again.
Sis got a little of your bad weather, SIX.
Well, on with the show. Many things to do.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
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I couldn't find the desire to work on the project today, but finally went back to it.
I gave up in frustration last night after making the grave mistake of forcing the AI to take out any and all hard-coded specific crap out of the code to replace with agnostic/dynamic code in one single go, and saw about half of my work just disappear.
Nothing I couldn't have just backed out and tried again with a new session with my extensive and organized backup process, but losing 8+ hours of work wasn't something I wanted to do either.
We've actually gotten almost all of it back up and running again now. Much quicker than I would have thought.
I really have to babysit it though when it does code changes. Not so much when we're focusing on specific blocks, but any time it wants to rewrite an entire module, it seems to want to sneak that crap back in and I'm watching it like a hawk now. I always do a backup of a module before it asks me to replace one from scratch now too.
I'm hoping to get this part done in the next hour or two and get everything working again so I can go to other testing environments we've already successfully done and make sure that nothing is broke. Once we do that, it should theoretically work in any testing environment, and the only thing we have to do is tone down the aggressiveness of the automated processes while testing this in different environments.
I don't have a specific line count on the session, but I know we were close to 30,000 lines before I cleared 1GB from the browser cache and I know we've blown far past 32,000 lines at this point and it's a record. And now that we're not constantly trying to get it to send full parts of code and all the historical documentation over and over again, it seems like the session itself has a lot more overhead before it runs out of juice on it's side, so I think I should be able to keep sessions alive far longer than I ever was able to before. I was sure this session would be dead a long time ago, but it seems fine.
ETA:
Ohhhhh nice. Just came off with a new feature request off the top of my head and this little dude was able to do it on the first try while fixing 2 other things in a single code update. That one little think that will make a certain document easier to comprehend by the user by adding a particular binary flag to every line, I suggested could also be used to derive some numbers the AI was struggling with, and we got all of them fixed immediately with something I had originally thought would just be a good thing for the end user to see.
You really DO have to know what you're doing here, even if you don't understand the actual coding language. The AI can be stuck in a loop for hours trying to accomplish something you want it to do, but you can't rely on it to just pull a solution out of the ether for you and take a passive role, or it just very well may never get you there.
And I just caught it cheating again...
We were trying to get a specific number to show up for hours while doing other code changes and finally it got that number 11 to show up.
It was in the process of making another change very close to where I saw a line end with "else 11"...
"What is this "else 11", and do we still need it?"
It then goes on to tell me in detail how that "else 11" will just put the number 11 in the spot on the graph I'd been trying him to get to fix for hours, if all the other conditions failed. When it finally showed up about an hour ago, I thought we fixed that code to actually work right. But the second I went to another testing environment and that number should be 2 or 788, it would still show 11.
"Oh... so you cheated again, huh?"
Then it fessed up, found the spot of code we needed to really fix the issue, gave me the fix and now 11 shows up dynamically as it should. Finally after not seeing that number where it needed to be since major code re-construction about a day a
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We had all our waste lines replaced a few years ago, including the main drain up to the "saddle". It wasn't strictly necessary. Replacing the sink-to-main lines would have been enough, but who wants to go thru that hassle twice? Plus, we already knew that the main line to the street was broken bc we used to have to keep snaking tree roots out.
I wonder if there's a narrowing somewhere further down the line from your under sink lines, BRENDA? That might explain why it keeps backing up.
*****
Such weird weather. Today it was raining (lightly). By Wednesday it'll be 100°F. Again.
Sis got a little of your bad weather, SIX.
Well, on with the show. Many things to do.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
First manager told me that the pipe for the bathtub, sink and kitchen sink all meet.
When I was having problems with the washroom sink after the plumber replaced that pipe I told him about the sink backing up. He had a look and said it was a clog at the junction. He came back and fixed that. That in theory means that there shouldn't be this problem with the kitchen.
So, all I can do is replacer the strainer and do part of something a friend of my brother's said about using baking soda, vinegar and hot water. Backing soda just makes it worse. So, I just use vinegar and hot water or dish soap and let it sit which seems to get rid of the clog.
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