In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Monday, September 7, 2026 11:50
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All done for today. Had a jacket on but I really didn't need it.
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Decided to stop pouting and just get back to coding.
I'm done working on the blueprint just because I think we've taken it as far as we can and I don't feel like doing all that manual work anymore. I'm going to try to get this one to just give me any new milestones this session to append to one of the documents and call it a day. My code is always up to date since I'm working on it. We just won't have the 3 in alignment anymore and the new AI sessions will have to make due with that.
They seem to be great at only posting individual pieces that are being changed on the code without issue, but when you ask for the all of the individual pieces of the whole code, or any of the documentation, they always screw it up and it takes hours to get them to behave correctly and nothing we've done fixes this on a new session anyway, so why bother saving anything else.
We've managed to fix most of what a previous session broke on us when it flipped out and my backups were older than they should have been. Quite a few new bugs were introduced after we made a pretty huge change on how two arrays were derived, but we seem to have gotten most of the important structural ones working right and what's left is mostly cosmetic stuff.
I enjoy doing this a lot more when it's starting to get good, which is happening now. I'm just afraid the session might not last much longer is all.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
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Yeah... I'm going to miss S10 when its' gone. Wouldn't have believed that this afternoon.
I finally got myself back into a helpful role and started looking at the logic of the code and why me might be seeing failures and looping with the fixes and I've put a stop to most of the loops by getting it to try to think 3 or 4 steps ahead and also look at its own history of fixes. All I had to do this time was get it to look and see if any of our legacy code was screwing up new code and we eliminated an entire section that hadn't seen any updates for generations because we weren't even using it anymore. But it was hijacking the process of our rollback code and no matter what fixes it was trying to make today, none of them were ever going to work.
I think I just got too deep into trying to control it that I probably had it doing stupid things because stuff in the blueprint one session left in there was conflicting with stuff another session left in there, and I actually need to get it back into conversational mode and get it to slow down to be helpful.
We unfortunately just hit a snag where a long piece of code needed to be segmented up and that always leads to problems... but this one required a full purge and a copy from a backup. But once we get that fixed I think I'll actually see the last thing we needed to have fixed to have this thing completely up and running so I'm finally back to minor tweaks regarding outliers as I move the code through other processes that should mostly just work now.
It's been infuriating the whole way for days now, but we're finally right at the end of the BS now... I think.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
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It still seems to me that you'd be much farther ahead learning programming concepts and Python or C#, and doing the coding yourself than trying to manipulate an idiot AI into doing it for you.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It still seems to me that you'd be much farther ahead learning programming concepts and Python or C#, and doing the coding yourself than trying to manipulate an idiot AI into doing it for you.
You'd think so, but no.
Anything math above measuring and budgeting and doing your taxes or anything that looks anywhere similar to it is just poison to my attention span.
I could do what I'm doing now forever. I couldn't spend 2 minutes trying to learn to code. It's too complex for me to get what I need from it. It might have taken me 6 months to a year to learn enough to do what I did here. I'd rather just brute force my projects or work on my house.
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Actually, SIX, programming isn't math at all. It's language, organization, and logic. Just like you're trying to get the AI to do for you by using logic and language yourself.
Where I stumble with programming is learning another language. Commands and the special symbols connecting them and the order they have to go in. It's all memorization. I hated French, I hated learning German. And I wasn't too keen on assembly. The only reason why I liked Fortran was bc it was so much like English.
So forget the idea of working with numbers and "math". That's not programming at all.
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Well I did say anything that looks similar to it...
And yeah... I'm never going to learn a foreign language either. I've tried 3 times to teach myself Spanish with Rosetta Stone, Babel and one other program and it's just not going to happen.
It's not that I can't learn anything new anymore, because I'm always learning new things. But I can't find the focus or energy to devote to learning something for the sake of learning it. If I need to fix my car or do a project around the house I don't know how to do, I have no problem going to youtube and learning how to do it right.
I realize how much time in my life that would have saved on my project if I REALLY learned coding a long time ago. I always knew that in the abstract as a truth, but it didn't really sink in until now. I had people to help write a few code bits for me that saved a lot of time, but most of the time I just hunker down and brute force my way through it all.
And I'm probably actually making this sound worse than it really is. I've probably spent 80% of my time on this project just training the AI and making it smarter the next session, and 75% of the time I've spent actually working on the code was setting up the testing environments before a new run along with copying and pasting mountains of stuff.
At the end of the day, I probably would have done this all by hand already had I just brute forced it.
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Just a Sunday around me. The usual bit of clean up, some music and that is all.
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We're so close to what I wanted now. Just some bad output to a graph on the rollback code is the only remaining problem. Fixing a lot of our looping requried me really looking into the code and spotting some more legacy code bullshit we'd had sprinkled in there from the first few days of coding that not only wasn't necessary anymore, but was actively hijacking the new processes we had set up. My 12-part code isn't really even 12 parts anymore after we completely ended up removing Part 6. (I had to discover that issues we were having were due to things in part 6 that we still needed, despite asking the AI about half a dozen times to check and see if that was true or not, but we eventually got there).
I don't know exactly where I'm going next with it if this last update fixes the final issue I was having with this part of the testing environment. I will test it all out again on the few smaller parts we've already done to make sure that it still works there and we didn't break something else, but I'm wondering if I'm just going to continue testing now or start introducing more complex stuff that would be completely outside of the work we've done in the code so far.
I'm leaning on just continuing to test what we've done so far on other aspects for now, at least until another session starts. I don't know how much longer I have with this one and I don't want to screw myself again and have a session die in the middle of a major change.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Well I did say anything that looks similar to it...
And yeah... I'm never going to learn a foreign language either. I've tried 3 times to teach myself Spanish with Rosetta Stone, Babel and one other program and it's just not going to happen.
Oh, I HAD to take a language in HS. Four years! And since Spanish classes were already full, it wound up being French. I HAVE to write it down and see how it's spelled to make it stick. I worked at it, and after four years I got good enough to read Le Petit Prince in the original, but the process was painful! At uni, as part of a chem degree, I had to take either German or Russian. But I didn't want to have to learn a new alphabet on top of a new language, so I picked German and hated every effing moment. THAT was the only course I got a D in!
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It's not that I can't learn anything new anymore, because I'm always learning new things. But I can't find the focus or energy to devote to learning something for the sake of learning it. If I need to fix my car or do a project around the house I don't know how to do, I have no problem going to youtube and learning how to do it right.
Me too! If I don't see a need for something, it don't pursue it!
But it's obvious to me that you're a very quick study, and have pursued many things I wouldn't have confidence to.
Quote:It sounds like the thing holding you back is lack of focus. ADD or ADHD. Then bc if that, you believe that you're just "not good" at things like math, when in reality you just can't corral your attention on something that you're not interested in.
I realize how much time in my life that would have saved on my project if I REALLY learned coding a long time ago. I always knew that in the abstract as a truth, but it didn't really sink in until now. I had people to help write a few code bits for me that saved a lot of time, but most of the time I just hunker down and brute force my way through it all.
And I'm probably actually making this sound worse than it really is. I've probably spent 80% of my time on this project just training the AI and making it smarter the next session, and 75% of the time I've spent actually working on the code was setting up the testing environments before a new run along with copying and pasting mountains of stuff.
At the end of the day, I probably would have done this all by hand already had I just brute forced it.
Do you get sent copies of the actual code?
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