In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Monday, September 7, 2026 11:50
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, since I can't really flip images in my mind, if you flip as you describe,will the louvers on both doors be facing downward?
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Oh... Sorry Sigs. I'm not talking about the louvered door.
That's just a singular bi-fold door for a very shallow linen closet across from the bathroom.
Currently, there is a flat-panel door there. That is one of my two left-handed doors of various heights and knob placements that I will have to reconcile to make the dual bi-fold door setup for the small bedroom closet. I will be flipping everything on the flat surface door that I'm working on right now to make the right-handed door for that closet.
I was actually able to pull out the metal and plastic hardware with just my fingers because it's the bottom one that screws in to adjust the height. That made it easy to gently pull out without any damage. The metal came out the other spring-loaded side easily, but the plastic piece is probably going to need some needle-nosed pliers and flat screwdriver action. I'm assuming the wheel for the track will also need similar persuasion. But it's good to know they're not glued in.
I actually have pure freedom to hang the louvered door however I see fit, actually.
I seriously have no idea where I got it now. I don't think it was from this house, and it was an acquisition when I was drunk all the time. Either that, or it could possibly have been in front of the water heater, but I busted all of that down because of mold, and I have no intention of walling it back up again anyhow since it's damn near impossible to get in there to replace it when needed with just a wooden frame around it.
It was in BAD shape. Not anywhere to the point of rot, but obvious water damage all over on the surface before sanding it down real good and priming it. But there was never any knob put on it, and I just realized today that there isn't any pivot or track hardware in the holes at all.
I'm going to look into what a whole new track system costs.
I looked out in the garage, and I only found one track. And for some reason that seems right to me. I'm pretty sure not only was that right door missing from the closet, but the entire track for it was missing too. These people took a whole lot of stuff and even ripped down the gutters for scrap before the bank took it back. Maybe they needed a bi-fold door where they were going, or maybe they were just being dicks and threw that out too.
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Nice... Looks like for around $20 I can buy myself a new 2-track bi-fold door hardware kit. The best part is it looks like the tracks are already sprayed a nice white color and I won't have to be painting them up like I did the other ones.
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At that length, you could probably do like I do and just pull it all to the front and cut it yourself.
Nah... I'm just kidding. I would never come between a woman and her hairstylist.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
I do trim my hair myself. I refuse to pay about $20 just have someone take an inch or so off my hair.
If I do play for an actual hairstyle. It is usually a French braid.
The more I find out about you, Brenda, the cooler you get.
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Thank you SIX.
Oh. You're welcome, Brenda. Sorry. I didn't see this reply until just now.
I don't like blowing smoke up people's asses anymore than I like somebody doing the same to me. My compliments don't come easy or quickly.
Then I saw you post this today...
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Discovered today that my shoes are really toast. I've been thinking that for a while but today confirmed it.
What was the final straw?
If I remember, I might have a look in my own email history. When I finally got rid of a pair a few years ago, I almost gave it a funeral along with some long worn out work clothes. There was paint all over and holes in everything. I know I sent a few pictures out.
I once had a pair of boots I bought from Farm and Fleet before going camping, and I actually wore those out until the soles were actually falling apart. I'd never seen that before.
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
At that length, you could probably do like I do and just pull it all to the front and cut it yourself.
Nah... I'm just kidding. I would never come between a woman and her hairstylist.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
I do trim my hair myself. I refuse to pay about $20 just have someone take an inch or so off my hair.
If I do play for an actual hairstyle. It is usually a French braid.
The more I find out about you, Brenda, the cooler you get.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
Thank you SIX.
Oh. You're welcome, Brenda. Sorry. I didn't see this reply until just now.
I don't like blowing smoke up people's asses anymore than I like somebody doing the same to me. My compliments don't come easy or quickly.
Then I saw you post this today...Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Discovered today that my shoes are really toast. I've been thinking that for a while but today confirmed it.
What was the final straw?
If I remember, I might have a look in my own email history. When I finally got rid of a pair a few years ago, I almost gave it a funeral along with some long worn out work clothes. There was paint all over and holes in everything. I know I sent a few pictures out.
I once had a pair of boots I bought from Farm and Fleet before going camping, and I actually wore those out until the soles were actually falling apart. I'd never seen that before.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
No worries SIX.
We all miss stuff.I have been think that part of the sole was coming off because hearing something sort of flop when I was walking. And when I was in the elevator coming up I thought I saw a loose string/thread on the left side of the right shoe. So, I stomped on it to see if I could get it come off and the whole side of that shoe started to come away.
Well with all the walking that I do. Running shoes only last with me a couple of years at most. So Monday after a couple of errands it is shoe shopping. I hate shopping for shoes.
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh. You're welcome, Brenda. Sorry. I didn't see this reply until just now.
I don't like blowing smoke up people's asses anymore than I like somebody doing the same to me. My compliments don't come easy or quickly.
Then I saw you post this today...Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Discovered today that my shoes are really toast. I've been thinking that for a while but today confirmed it.
What was the final straw?
If I remember, I might have a look in my own email history. When I finally got rid of a pair a few years ago, I almost gave it a funeral along with some long worn out work clothes. There was paint all over and holes in everything. I know I sent a few pictures out.
I once had a pair of boots I bought from Farm and Fleet before going camping, and I actually wore those out until the soles were actually falling apart. I'd never seen that before.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
No worries SIX.
I have been think that part of the sole was coming off because hearing something sort of flop when I was walking. And when I was in the elevator coming up I thought I saw a loose string/thread on the left side of the right shoe. So, I stomped on it to see if I could get it come off and the whole side of that shoe started to come away.
Well with all the walking that I do. Running shoes only last with me a couple of years at most. So Monday after a couple of errands it is shoe shopping. I hate shopping for shoes.
Hehe... Yeah... Been there before. Actually one of the two pairs I just finally threw out had the sole about halfway removed from the shoe. I always thought it was nice to at least have one pair that bad whenever I have to go in the water for the sewers, but these days I'm rethinking that. I just had that nastly black sliver I had to dig out of the ball of my foot, and I could lose the whole damn thing if I get infected. I think my days of wearing shoes where half of the factory padding has ripped away and the soles are completely flat are done. The days of me being block daddy and clearing out the sewers when they negatively impact a lot of other people are probably coming to an end too.
I hear you about putting miles on shoes. I don't do nearly as many as I should these days, but my shoes last forever because of it. When I was working those 10 hour overnights on concrete floors, I was replacing those shoes every 8 months or so. Except for my lawn mowing shoes, they tend to last a really long time for me right now.
I could really use the exercise though, I'm sure.
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Ha!
Boy... I really do too much work sometimes...
Talking to my dad the other day about those louvered doors and saying "you know me... I'm going to waste all that time painting the backs of them a few coats even though nobody will ever see it.
And I just REALLY checked out the flat bifold door I've had up there for something like 12 or 13 years or more now...
Did I paint the back. No I did not. I can't actually see it at all, but I can feel it. I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying that I probably didn't even sand it down either. And it never mattered. Even I forgot that I did that and in all the years of that closet getting some pretty heavy use I was none the wiser.
I am NOT painting the backs of those louvered doors. They've already got a really nice coat and a half of primer and no wood is showing through anywhere.
I'm simply going to do the 2nd coat on the 2nd door, and then at least hit the louvers one more time if not giving the faces a 3rd coat completely.
And nobody will ever know.
I think I have to at least put a coat of primer and paint on the back of that other closet door that's coming down from the linen closet though, to match the other one. Though not a deep closet and certainly not anything you'd be standing inside for any reason other than a kid playing hide and seek (where it would be near completely dark without a flashlight), I did make the back of the other door white already and there is enough room when the closet is empty (like when I'm selling the house) for somebody to see that back there, so I'll at least make it white and nobody should ever know it didn't get the same treatment.
Oh... Here's a fun little life hack I just figured out on my own regarding paint...
The other night (I think 2 nights ago now if not 3), I was up late painting those doors and quit before putting the 2nd coat on the 2nd louvered door.
But I never did any paint cleanup at all...
Why not? Well... I was using my high-gloss white paint, but I had poured it into that empty primer bucket, rather than pouring into a painters cup to save myself the cleanup. I've also been painting all of this stuff with a shitty dollar store brush that has seen better days.
So, what did I do?
Well I wrapped it all up, the brush inside the bucket with about enough paint to do one more door in a black plastic trash bag I had down there just to separate a few painted things I had stacked on each other a while back. I just put the bucket on the bottom of the bag and wrapped it around over the top and tucked it all underneath while getting out as much air as I could.
Now maybe it has something to do with the local humidity right now and this wouldn't work during a dry summer, but 2 or 3 nights later, that paint and the brush are fine and exactly how I left them.
That's a HUGE time saver in the future if I can do the experiment again when humidity is really low and I can get the same results for at least a day.
ETA: I've kind of been dreading working on these doors all these years. But when I look back on the work, I don't think the bifold doors themselves are the problems in my head, but just how difficult it was to mount the one for the linen closet itself with almost zero room to work with behind the door.
I know it's always a PITA working on them, but something about that door was ridiculously hard. I hope I don't have any issues swapping these out. If at all possible without destroying anything, I will be taking the hardware out of the flat door up there now and putting that in the louvered doors since I know that hardware matches the track.
I may or may not get to the hardware store to finish off the other one right after I get them both down there on the horses side by side to figure out how I need to trim the shorter door out and to figure out where the ideal place for the knob. That's going to be a bit of work and take up all my work
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh. You're welcome, Brenda. Sorry. I didn't see this reply until just now.
I don't like blowing smoke up people's asses anymore than I like somebody doing the same to me. My compliments don't come easy or quickly.
Then I saw you post this today...Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Discovered today that my shoes are really toast. I've been thinking that for a while but today confirmed it.
What was the final straw?
If I remember, I might have a look in my own email history. When I finally got rid of a pair a few years ago, I almost gave it a funeral along with some long worn out work clothes. There was paint all over and holes in everything. I know I sent a few pictures out.
I once had a pair of boots I bought from Farm and Fleet before going camping, and I actually wore those out until the soles were actually falling apart. I'd never seen that before.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
No worries SIX.
I have been think that part of the sole was coming off because hearing something sort of flop when I was walking. And when I was in the elevator coming up I thought I saw a loose string/thread on the left side of the right shoe. So, I stomped on it to see if I could get it come off and the whole side of that shoe started to come away.
Well with all the walking that I do. Running shoes only last with me a couple of years at most. So Monday after a couple of errands it is shoe shopping. I hate shopping for shoes.
Hehe... Yeah... Been there before. Actually one of the two pairs I just finally threw out had the sole about halfway removed from the shoe. I always thought it was nice to at least have one pair that bad whenever I have to go in the water for the sewers, but these days I'm rethinking that. I just had that nastly black sliver I had to dig out of the ball of my foot, and I could lose the whole damn thing if I get infected. I think my days of wearing shoes where half of the factory padding has ripped away and the soles are completely flat are done. The days of me being block daddy and clearing out the sewers when they negatively impact a lot of other people are probably coming to an end too.
I hear you about putting miles on shoes. I don't do nearly as many as I should these days, but my shoes last forever because of it. When I was working those 10 hour overnights on concrete floors, I was replacing those shoes every 8 months or so. Except for my lawn mowing shoes, they tend to last a really long time for me right now.
I could really use the exercise though, I'm sure.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
That is usually what happens when I wear out a pair of shoes. Last time it was the tops. Didn't realize how bad of shape they were in till one day I looked down and I could see my socks through the holes. I keep another ratty pair actually the ones with holes in the tops for running garbage and recycling down. But these ones I will chuck because I could trip over that piece and go down and get hurt.
Nope, no more sewers for you. It is too dangerous.
Exercise is good. My case it is just stuff to do. Stuff to do.
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Just a musical Sunday after I get up and get some things done.
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Boy... I got that bifold door down....
Yeah... What a nightmare.
That was the first one I worked on, and not knowing anything about the door hardware I didn't even realize it was either bad or broken pieces I was using. There was no adjustable piece on the bottom. Just a metal pole sticking out about half an inch. I had to adjust the height on the bottom pivot bracket because there was no adjusting.
Yeah... I'm not doing that again.
This louvered door is 3/8" shorter than the existing door, so it needs to be 3/8" higher than the old one. If I don't cannibalize the adjusting pivot piece from the other door and try to reuse what was in there, I'm going to have to raise my bottom bracket 3/8" and further shim it up than the block that was already putting it off the ground.
Turns out the $20 price was only for a single door track, so I ordered a 2-pack of them on Amazon for under $30 and I should have those in a few days. In the meantime, once I get those louvered doors painted I'll be using the existing hardware from the flat door I was working on in the louvered door so I can get that hung a lot easier than trying to reuse the crap that was in there.
More than I wanted to spend, but I'm saving a lot of money here. New flat bifold doors are $96, and the louvered ones are $120. And that's without any tracks and hardware.
All this cost me was primer, paint, new door knobs and 2 of 5 tracks to hang 5 doors, and one of the doors wasn't even part of the house. And I'm not even really going to put prices on any of that since it was a pretty incidental amount of paint/primer. I don't remember what the knobs cost me, but it was like 12 or 13 years ago so I'm sure it was pretty cheap. (I hope I bought 2 more for the other closet, but where the hell would they be if I did. I'll use the kitchen cabinet knobs that I also used on the vanity if I can't find them, but I do like the knobs I had on the existing 3 bifold doors better for that job, so I hope I don't have to).
The whole thing probably cost me about $10 per door ($50 total) if you don't include the labor. Sure beats $575+ after taxes.
Oh... and yeah... The back of that door was not sanded either. Not only that, but my painting skills weren't as good back then and I had paint leaking down the back of the door too. I must have known that nobody would have ever seen back there with how difficult it probably was just to take the damn thing down, and I was right.
I'm not sanding that, but once I get the louvered door down and I can get the hinges off of this one and pull the hardware off, I will give it a quick coat of primer and paint before I start installing the new tracks in the bedroom. The finish on the back has a little shine to it, but it's nothing like the amber 60's poly finish that was in the kitchen cabinets where paint would have started peeling right off the second it dried. I'm sure it will be fine.
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Wood filler did its thing and I sanded all that down. I shouldn't have any problems running into that hole again now that I'm flipping the door 180 degrees. The handles go somewhat off-center, so it will be at a different point both horizontally by about 3/4" to 1" and vertically by maybe half an inch. I think I'm really going to wait until I have both sets of doors for that closet on the horses together before I do any new holes or figuring where I need that trim to hide that one door is shorter than the other.
One coat on the faces of that door, 2 more to go. Next is getting the 2nd coat on that 2nd louvered panel. I'm sure in between getting the final coat on the louvered door, I'll be able to get 2 more coats on the flat door panels and they'll be ready.
If I do good today, I might have that louvered door up in place. Depends on how difficult its going to be. I'll have to use neoprene gloves while I'm doing it for sure. Maybe I'll wait and let it cure for a day before I even attempt it though. If I knew it was going to slip right in, I wouldn't be worried about it, but I think this is going to be a nasty job.
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