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War on Men

POSTED BY: BYTEMITE
UPDATED: Sunday, May 3, 2026 22:40
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Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:53 PM

Thank you Frem, that helps me understand better.

I've never lost someone super important either. My grandpa died 2 and a half years ago now, it was hard because I'd never lost a family member that I was reasonably close to. But he was 81 and even though it was sudden that's about when men usually die so it wasn't as shocking as it could have been. I cared about him, liked spending time with him, but we weren't really really close. I do miss him though. I'm pretty fortunate, I've got both my parents and my grandma left, she's 84 and very healthy so she won't die for a while.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:32 PM

I meant I haven't lost anyone to suicide. Cigarettes, aggressive lung cancer, and heart disease doesn't count. I miss my grandpa, never got to know my other two grandparents well, still have one grandmother who is pretty awesome and it'll be hard to lose her.

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Friday, May 25, 2012 1:33 AM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
It sounds like everyone's lost someone except for me. I'm sorry you guys, Jack, Kwicko, Frem, you guys have been through a lot. I've never really had any justification for any of this aside from trying to find meaning.

Jack - believe me, I know. I've actually estimated how long it would take everyone I know to get over it, and I put it at about 6 months, probably shorter, in most cases I suspect it would be a few days to a week. I'm not really close to anyone, which makes it really convenient. And it's not exactly like any of them would be surprised.

Niki: I think you've done far more in your life than I ever will. But, I know how you feel, not wanting to stick around to old age.



There's no fault for trying to find meaning in life Byte.

Skirting Death and Not Fearing the Reaper isn't a good avenue for it though. In my own experience with suicide related deaths, and my own psyche, I've come to realize that those who even contemplate it are so capable of empathy for others that they're the ones that need to weather out the storm to help those they care about in their lives that are less capable in any aspect have a happier life.

I've contemplated the option on several occasions in my own life. Even when I was in the hospital and was pumped for a 3% blood/alcohol level, my appointed psychiatrist was convinced that was an attempt, even tough I just thought it was 16 year old stupidity at the time.

Without going into detail about the aftermath, I'll just recommend that if you ever decide to go that route, a bottle of athletes foot powder, or a full month's prescription of Welbuterin mixed with alcohol is not the way to go. All I will tell you about that is a 30 day supply of Welbuterin in 5 minutes will make you feel "not so right" for at least the next 24 hours. I was completely unable to sleep, and I found that I could focus on one single thought for an hour at a time. (For a guy who has a billion things on his brain at any givin time, that's saying a lot). I HATED IT!!!!! The ONLY times I've ever felt worse in my life were on the down-swings of highs from the 2 times I did mushrooms and the 6 times I've done coke, but there was no "good feeling" before the bad.



Six months is really a stretch for most people you know. When my uncle killed himself, it was the first time I have EVER seen my dad tear up at the funeral. For all I know, he still thinks about his brother today, but he's not the type to really ever discuss his feelings. Everyone else seems to go on like nothing has happened and never mentions him, like they did 3 days after he died.

Nobody knew him like I did though. Even his brothers had never had hours long conversations with him about music or politics or pop culture. To everyone else he was an island, but while I was living at my Grams' house, we'd smoke a little weed and get drunk and we could talk for hours without ever running out of things to say. After I moved to Wisconsin for a great paying job, it was only 8 months later that he killed himself. I was in town that weekend for a Tom Petty concert but never made it to Gram's house. Looking back, I realize that the big hug he gave me the previous time we shared together was his way of saying goodbye. He was never a hugger.

When my dad called me on a Tuesday and I heard the tone of his voice, I knew what he was going to say before he said it............



But....

Even with all I'm telling you about him now, he'd have said that nobody in his life cared at all about him either and that he was never close to anyone. This wasn't because he was being a dick for the sake of being a dick. This was because he truly hated himself and finally did what he tried to do when he was only 8 years old and first attempted suicide.

Somebody does care about you that way Byte, and they're going to take it really hard for the rest of their li

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Friday, May 25, 2012 2:49 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's no fault for trying to find meaning in life Byte.

Skirting Death and Not Fearing the Reaper isn't a good avenue for it though.


Really ?
It's always worked for me!


-F

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Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:58 AM

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's no fault for trying to find meaning in life Byte.

Skirting Death and Not Fearing the Reaper isn't a good avenue for it though.


Really ?
It's always worked for me!


-F



Don't be evil Frem...

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Sunday, May 3, 2026 5:35 PM

From Melbourne to the World: can feminism be reclaimed as a human rights issue?

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/urdu/en/podcast-episode/from-melbourne
-to-the-world-can-feminism-be-reclaimed-as-a-human-rights-issue/z4audacxq

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Sunday, May 3, 2026 10:30 PM

FUCK Feminism.

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Sunday, May 3, 2026 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Anthony: Apparently women actually attempt suicide more than men do, but also fail more often. Men tend to be more successful than women at suicide, so more of them die.



CORRECTION:

Women fake suicide much, much, much more often than men do for attention and/or manipulation.

Men just kill themselves.



"Mother chants a litany of boredom and frustration. But we know all her suicides are fake." ~The Police / Synchronicity II

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