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In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)

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Friday, March 20, 2026 2:54 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BRENDA

VGA = Video Graphics Array.
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VGA stands for Video Graphics Array, which is a standard for video display and a type of connector used to transmit analog video signals from a computer to a display device. It was introduced by IBM in 1987 and has been widely used in various applications since then


So what you need is a VGA+AUDIO to HDMI adapter...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=hdmi%20vga%20adapter&N=0
&InitialSearch=yes&msclkid=d2795ed7aaf91ebd73bd376cab01cfec


It must be VGA+AUDIO

There are simpler VGA to HDMI adapters but you won't get sound

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Okay. I will know the piece when I see it. They are holding it for me.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 2:56 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BRENDA

VGA = Video Graphics Array.
Quote:

VGA stands for Video Graphics Array, which is a standard for video display and a type of connector used to transmit analog video signals from a computer to a display device. It was introduced by IBM in 1987 and has been widely used in various applications since then


So what you need is a VGA+AUDIO to HDMI adapter...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=hdmi%20vga%20adapter&N=0
&InitialSearch=yes&msclkid=d2795ed7aaf91ebd73bd376cab01cfec


It must be VGA+AUDIO

There are simpler VGA to HDMI adapters but you won't get sound

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger



Wow. That is an OLD computer.

You should really think about getting a new desktop Brenda. If it's got nothing but VGA, that's got to be a video card and the motherboard doesn't even have on-board video. That thing is probably from like 2010 or older then, huh?

Even my video cards from back then had VGA and DVI outputs on them.


I don't think she needs the VGA + Audio adapter. (I didn't even know they made them until I just looked now, to be honest). VGA is strictly a video signal. A VGA+Audio adapter has an additional 3.5mm jack that you plug into the audio output, or a USB jack that I assume you would plug into one of the standard USB outputs (and burn a valuable one up since Brenda probably doesn't have more than 2 or 3 of them).

I'm assuming now that Brenda has separate computer speakers and she plugged those into the audio jack already and wasn't using the audio through her monitor.


I'm using a regular VGA to HDMI on my dual monitor setup because one of my monitors is a very old flat screen TV that didn't have any HDMI inputs, and my video card has two HDMI outs on it.

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It might be. I think I mentioned when I got it it was refurbished but not sure how old it really is. Still holding out hope that this will work.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 2:58 AM

Still raining and still coming to you from the library. We shall see what happens tomorrow. Need a bit of groceries in the rain.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 6:02 AM

Brenda, I may not have asked you this before, but do you have computer speakers that plug into the back of your computer with a smaller wire that has and end that looks like the end of headphones that you'd plug into a walkman or mp3 player?

I didn't think to ask that before because I didn't realize how old your computer was. And now I'm assuming this is how you get your audio on that PC.

If the answer is yes, you don't need to worry about getting a VGA adapter with audio because you're getting your audio directly from the soundcard or motherboard straight to your computer speakers.



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Friday, March 20, 2026 10:47 AM

I think I got another cold when I went out to the doctor's and to run errands the other day. I don't think I'm relapsing on the lung front, but I've got a lot of nose-leaking and phlegm coming up. All clear though... nothing that looks or tastes nasty like I was hacking up before I got help.

So I haven't been doing much the last few days besides keeping bundled up and getting a lot of sleep. Woke up again about 6 hours ago though and got a lot more work done on my computer project, and decided to take a break from that and I stained that kitchen/livingroom threshold and primed/painted that one final finishing touch quarter-round piece for the outside cabinet.

I'll be putting about 3 coats of wipe-on poly on that threshold tomorrow so that won't be installed until the weekend, but I'll be able to get that final piece of cabinet trim up tomorrow.

Not tired at all right now, so despite the hour I think I'm going to put a few more hours into the computer project before I go back to sleep. I got around 750 things done on it today already, which is about half of what I needed to wrap up another huge portion of the work before I move on to the next thing. I would have had all that done weeks ago if it weren't for getting as sick as I did. I can't believe how long ago I started this large part of the project without finishing it. It's just one of those things that was so huge that it was daunting from the start. And looking back to the starting date and seeing that it's still not finished is really getting to me.

If I don't finish it tonight, I should be able to finish it tomorrow. We're finally going to have some decent weather tomorrow, so I'll probably be going out to my garage and seeing what else I have out there to work on and bring it back in the house. I'll probably also take my throw rugs and entryway mats and beat the dust out of them outside and sweep/vac up the floors and get a little spring cleaning done while I'm at it. When my old man comes back from his trip, I want the place to be really clean while I'm showing off all the new work that I've recently done.

We're not done with winter yet and still have some cold days ahead of us, but if I get all that inside while it's warm this weekend and get things staged, I should have plenty of stuff to work on. At least it looks like we're done with days in the 20's and 30's now.



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Saturday, March 21, 2026 12:54 AM

Still at the library and got the adapter yesterday afternoon. Boss's husband called me to see if I had found it. Said I did and the place was holding it for me. He was talking for a minute when I said a ride would be great. He was calling from the local mall and so he came over and got me. I got the adapter and hooked it up. Tried it and nothing happened. Went back to ask about a menu that comes up. He said use the arrow keys.

But yeah it looks like again I will have to bit the bullet. Place I got the adapter said $700 CAD for monitor and drive. Sorry old lady here. But I don't want the whole set up as I already laid out $200 CAD on the monitor. Also don't need anything for gaming. Arrgghh! Always a production.

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Saturday, March 21, 2026 12:55 AM

Yesterday morning at mah jong was terrible.


And tomorrow is laundry. Will be in after I get a bite to eat.

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Saturday, March 21, 2026 1:36 AM

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Originally posted by BRENDA:
Still at the library and got the adapter yesterday afternoon. Boss's husband called me to see if I had found it. Said I did and the place was holding it for me. He was talking for a minute when I said a ride would be great. He was calling from the local mall and so he came over and got me. I got the adapter and hooked it up. Tried it and nothing happened. Went back to ask about a menu that comes up. He said use the arrow keys.

But yeah it looks like again I will have to bit the bullet. Place I got the adapter said $700 CAD for monitor and drive. Sorry old lady here. But I don't want the whole set up as I already laid out $200 CAD on the monitor. Also don't need anything for gaming. Arrgghh! Always a production.




Man... This is why I wish you had a backup laptop so we could communicate better, Brenda. Maybe even figure out a time where we could actively talk back and forth while you were actively trying to get the desktop running. It's still not ideal back in forth here in the garden or the tags, but only once per day volleys makes me feel pretty useless trying to help you sort out this issue.


You said a menu came up? And he said to use the arrow keys? I don't know what you mean and you didn't elaborate beyond that. I still think your computer is fine, even though it's ancient, so I'm not sure why the adapter didn't solve your problem. Is the computer starting (do you see any lights, hear the drive and fans start up)?





If you need a new computer, there's a site called "WOOT.COM" which has been around forever and got bought out by Amazon maybe 5 or 6 years ago.

They have a new batch of refurbished computer inventory every week. Last week they had a refurbished computer under $100 USD that would have been fine for your needs. The cheapest they've got right now is $149.99 USD, but that's still way cheaper than $700 Canadian, and it would be quite an upgrade from your current desktop.

https://computers.woot.com/offers/lenovo-m710-sff-desktop-pc-8?ref=w_c
nt_lnd_cat_pc_4_1


That computer has all the outputs. It's got 1 HDMI, 2 Display ports and 1 VGA.


They've even got a laptop for the same price. The 4GB of memory is pretty small, but the laptop is new enough to have Windows 11 installed on it.

https://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-14-intel-n150-uhd-graphics-laptop
-2?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_6_1


I can see from the picture that it also has an HDMI output, so you'd be able to plug it into your monitor without an adapter as well.

Can you have your boss or her husband order something for you and you can pay them back?

You really don't need to buy a new full-priced computer for your needs. If your local shop doesn't have used computers and you can't find one that sells used goods, Woot/Amazon really is a great way to go. Personally, I've used Craigslist to buy mine, but I wouldn't recommend that to you because you have to go and meet up with a random stranger and that could be dangerous.

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Saturday, March 21, 2026 5:54 AM

I think the sales guy is selling you a load of horse puckies.

Unless he's referring to something I don't know about, CAD is a piece of SOFTWARE - Computer Aided Design. It's for engineers, architects, and designers to help draw architectural plans, designs, and so forth. You don't need that!






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Saturday, March 21, 2026 6:05 AM

CAD in this instance means Canadian Dollar.

Monitors are plug and play. Brenda shouldn't need any drivers. That's why I'm somewhat confused that the adapter didn't work for her. I think what she was seeing on screen wasn't any signal from the computer and was probably the monitor software looking for a signal.

It is possible that the monitor has several inputs and maybe Brenda needs to point the monitor to the correct input to get the signal from the computer. That's why I was asking her if she could confirm that the computer itself was still firing up (with the hard drive/fans making noise, and any LED lights on the front turning on).

The last computer monitor I bought was around 20 years ago now and only had one input. Any monitors I've used since were things other people were throwing out that only had one input too. Currently, I'm using two TVs as monitors on my computer, and I know that they won't work unless the correct input is pointed to.

I just did a google search "do modern computer monitors have multiple inputs" and the answer was yes. (And at the very high price of $200 CAD, I would damn well expect her monitor to have these features... I was just at Costco the other day and they were selling VISIO TVs that are quite a bit larger than my current TV/monitors for less than $100 USD and that wasn't even a sale price).

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Yes, modern computer monitors typically have multiple inputs
, allowing users to connect several devices simultaneously (such as a PC, laptop, or gaming console). Common configurations include combinations of HDMI, DisplayPort, and USB-C ports, which can be switched between using the monitor's on-screen display menu.



I'm thinking that this is most likely the problem now. Brenda just needs to read the instruction manual and figure out how to change the input on the monitor. It would probably be easier if it came with a remote control, but it probably didn't. Most likely there are some fairly hidden buttons on the side or bottom of the monitor that will allow her to enter the monitor's setup and to navigate the options. Hopefully there is a decent illustration of the buttons in the manual or on a "Quick Start" card that came with it.

I'm guessing that Brenda's PC is working fine and was sending the signal properly to the monitor. We just have to make sure that the monitor is looking for the signal from the correct input. We're probably only one small step away from her having her computer at home back up and running again.



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