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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 1:11 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Russia has NOT issued ultimatums, SECOND.

Russia has repeatedly issued ultimatums to Ukraine throughout the conflict, most recently in late 2025 and early 2026, demanding the withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from eastern and southern regions (Donbas and Novorossiya). These demands, often framed as necessary for peace, are rejected by Kyiv as territorial surrender.

Key details regarding Russian ultimatums:

• Late 2025/2026 Demand: President Putin stated that Ukraine must withdraw from all "Donbas and Novorossiya" territories or face continued, intensified, and ultimately successful military action by Russia.

• Nature of Demands: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has described these demands not as compromises but as "terrorism" and "ultimatums" aimed at the destruction of Ukrainian sovereignty.

• Previous Demands: Early in the 2022 invasion, Russia demanded the handover of major cities like Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Mariupol.

• 2021 Pre-invasion: In December 2021, Russia issued a largely preemptive ultimatum to NATO and the US regarding the exclusion of Ukraine from NATO.

Ukraine has consistently maintained that it is ready for compromises but will not accept ultimatums requiring the surrender of its sovereign territory.

https://www.google.com/search?q=has+russia+issued+ultimatums+in+ukrain
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 1:11 AM

On Russian TV, Family Feuds Over War Death Payouts Become Fodder for Primetime Drama

By Angelina Trefilova | Feb. 18, 2026

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/02/18/on-russian-tv-family-feuds-o
ver-war-death-payouts-become-fodder-for-primetime-drama-a91669


Galina Simagina, a woman from Russia’s Chelyabinsk region, was locked in a feud with her in-laws over who was entitled to state compensation for her husband’s death in the Ukraine war.

She took an unorthodox step to resolve the dispute: She went on state television.

In the studio for the talk show “Muzhskoe-Zhenskoe” (“Male-Female”), Simagina accused her late husband’s family of turning her two children against her and cutting off all contact.

“Stop lying! I’m taking my children anyway, and I won’t give them to you,” Simagina tells her mother-in-law on camera.

Before long, the show’s hosts were calling her a kukushka (“cuckoo”), a pejorative term in Russia for a mother seen as having abandoned her child.

As the Kremlin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has dragged on for nearly four years, generous cash incentives for contract soldiers and multimillion-ruble payments for families of those killed have created opportunities for social mobility for thousands of Russians.

They have also fueled disputes over inheritance, custody and alleged fraud — some of which are now unfolding on television, turning private grief into spectacle while normalizing the human cost of a war whose narrative is tightly controlled by the Kremlin.

Hosted by TV personalities Alexander Gordon and Yulia Baronovskaya, “Muzhskoe-Zhenskoe” on Channel One has become one such arena for these family feuds.

The long-running daytime talk show typically features emotionally charged family conflicts where guests air grievances before a live studio audience, while the hosts question participants, offer commentary and occasionally call on officials or social services to intervene.

The episode featuring Simagina has amassed more than 1 million views on the show’s YouTube channel since it aired last month.

Alyona Yermilova, a widow from the republic of Udmurtia, appeared on “Muzhskoe-Zhenskoe” with a similar dilemma. While in prison, her late husband signed a contract to fight in Ukraine with the Wagner mercenary group. He was killed in combat in November 2022.

Yermilova says she quickly spent the state payout from her husband’s death, sometimes referred to in Russia as “coffin money,” on clothing and to pay off bank loans and payday loans.

“Maybe I was in such a state that I didn’t understand what I was doing,” she tells the hosts.

Footage shown to the audience depicts her living with her children in a three-room apartment with dirty floors, a broken stove and an outdoor toilet.

“Homeless people live better than we do,” Yermilova says to the camera from her apartment.

A thank-you letter from the Kremlin-appointed head of Ukraine’s Russian-occupied Luhansk region hangs alongside Wagner Group medals on the wall of her home. Over the course of the episode, the hosts never mention why Yermilov was imprisoned.

“I have no nerves left, no strength. If they [authorities] take my child away from me, I won’t survive it,” Yermilova says while sitting at her husband’s grave.

By the end of the episode, the hosts called on child welfare authorities to strip her of parental rights.

Another show guest, Tatyana Sharafutdinova, also addressed her late husband who died in Ukraine on camera.

“I often come here, look at him and talk to him, so that things are good for him in heaven. Maybe I hurt him somehow. I always ask for forgiveness,” Sharafutdinova says while standing by the corner that houses her home’s Orthodox icon.

Sharafutdinova learned of her husband’s death in January 2023 and has yet to receive the government compensation for his death.

“As soon as he died in the war, the fight over the money began,” Sharafutdinova said.

Gordon, the co-host, called it “another wild story.”

In 2025, at least three episodes of “Muzhskoe-Zhenskoe” featured disp

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 1:37 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Russia has NOT issued ultimatums, SECOND.

Russia has repeatedly issued ultimatums to Ukraine throughout the conflict, most recently in late 2025 and early 2026, demanding the withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from eastern and southern regions (Donbas and Novorossiya). These demands, often framed as necessary for peace, are rejected by Kyiv as territorial surrender.

Key details regarding Russian ultimatums:

• Late 2025/2026 Demand: President Putin stated that Ukraine must withdraw from all "Donbas and Novorossiya" territories or face continued, intensified, and ultimately successful military action by Russia.

• Nature of Demands: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has described these demands not as compromises but as "terrorism" and "ultimatums" aimed at the destruction of Ukrainian sovereignty.

• Previous Demands: Early in the 2022 invasion, Russia demanded the handover of major cities like Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Mariupol.

• 2021 Pre-invasion: In December 2021, Russia issued a largely preemptive ultimatum to NATO and the US regarding the exclusion of Ukraine from NATO.

Ukraine has consistently maintained that it is ready for compromises but will not accept ultimatums requiring the surrender of its sovereign territory.




An ultimatum is in the form of "Do X or Y will happen".

Re: Ukraine in NATO: There was no threat attached.
Re: Russia never "demanded" the handover of Kiev or Kharkiv, both of which are well outside of Donbas. Russia demanded the surrender of Azov troops trapped on the Azovstal steelworks which was under siege and bombardment by Russia.
Re: "Zelensky described". Zelensky spews bullshit regularly.
Re: Ukrainian withdrawal from Donbas and Novorossiya: No ADDITIONAL action was threatened, just that Russia's military campaign will continue.

Google and AI both regurgitate the bullshit that makes up 95% of English language conversations and "news". They follow the GIGO principle.

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 2:24 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

An ultimatum is in the form of "Do X or Y will happen".

Re: Ukraine in NATO: There was no threat attached.

Russian leadership has consistently maintained that NATO expansion, and specifically Ukraine's alignment with the Alliance, represents an existential security threat to Moscow. The "Existential Threat" Doctrine (2020–2024) said nuclear weapons could be used if conventional aggression "threatens the very existence of the state". The Revised Nuclear Doctrine (Nov 2024 Updates) lowers the threshold for nuclear use to conventional attacks that threaten Russia’s sovereignty and/or territorial integrity.

Per Signym, an ultimatum is in the form of "Do X or Y will happen".

Examples:
Ukraine violates Russia's "territorial integrity" --> Russia nukes Ukraine.
Ukraine joins NATO --> Russia nukes Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 3:40 AM

IF NATO (or NATO, using Ukraine as a proxy, ATTACKS Russia to where Russia is existentially threatened, Russia may respond with nuclear weapons.

You've chained several things together... Ukraine in NATO ... NATO attacks Russia ... Russia's very existence is threatened ... to concoct an "ultimatum" that doesn't exist.

What Russia is doing is called deterrence.


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Saturday, February 21, 2026 3:58 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What Russia is doing is called deterrence.

Not really. The Russians are using an explicit and elaborate Soviet-era theory called "reflexive control". Whatever the Russians say, ignore it. It is just verbiage to warp weak minds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexive_control

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 5:19 AM

It's deterrence.
Meanwhile, looks like you've given up on the notion of Russian "ultimatums“.


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Saturday, February 21, 2026 6:07 AM

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Originally posted by THG:

Right now Jack and Signym are showing up less to argue they are right because everything they have been claiming is starting to fall apart.



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Shut the fuck up, loser.

You're a waste of time and everything you predict is going to happen never does happen.

You are a loser. A loser. Loser. Loser. Loser.

Just wait until June.

Tick Tock



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Be Nice. Don't be a dick.

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 4:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's deterrence.
Meanwhile, looks like you've given up on the notion of Russian "ultimatums“.

I'm dropping ultimatums because Signym does not want to acknowledge that Russia has issued many ultimatums of the form "We Will Nuke You If You Do This Or That". Maybe Signym thinks it is a joke if no nukes were dropped? Moving on to something else that Signym will mock/misunderstand/discount:

Ukrainian forces have liberated 300 square kilometers (116 square miles) of territory from Russian occupation in a new southern counteroffensive, President Volodymyr Zelensky told Agence France-Presse (AFP) in an interview on Feb. 20.

The president's report comes as Kyiv faces mounting pressure from the United States to withdraw troops from Ukrainian-controlled territory as part of a deal with Russia to end the war.

"You can't say that we're losing the war. Honestly, we're definitely not losing it, definitely," Zelensky told AFP during an exclusive interview in Kyiv. "The question is whether we will win."

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-liberates-300-square-kilometers-in
-southern-counteroffensive-zelensky-tells-afp
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I sure wish the Ukrainians or the Russians had a better plan on how to win other than fight to the death like the Soviets and the Germans did in WWII, killing tens of millions. My plan would have been to start designing, in 2014, weapons like the Tomahawk and Patriot and use them to destroy the Kerch Strait Bridge in the first month of this war. Four years later, Ukraine could have destroyed everything of similar high value in Russia, but Ukraine doesn't have any weapons like that on the drawing boards, let alone factories to make the weapons by the thousands per month. Four years ago, the Ukrainians hadn't even thought ahead about how to ensure a sufficient supply of artillery shells. It's like both sides are as dumb as Stalin and the Soviets at how to win without sacrificing tens of millions of citizens.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 21, 2026 8:36 PM

An ultimatum is a demand with consequences if the demand isn't acted on: "Do X, or Y".

Deterrence is a stated response to the OTHER party's initiating action: "If YOU do X, we'll do Y".

You're dropping ultimatums bc you don't have a leg to stand on.

Logic. Not your strong point, is it?

Meanwhile, Russia keeps advancing along the entire front.


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