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2025 Wide Release Prediction Game Thread

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Friday, December 26, 2025 5:04 AM

Cameron’s Crash: ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’ Is More Than Three Hours of Tediousness

https://cvindependent.com/2025/12/camerons-crash-avatar-fire-and-ash-i
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James Cameron has been a petulant whiner on the promotional tour for his latest monstrosity, Avatar: Fire and Ash. He’s warning that if the third Na’vi adventure doesn’t make big bank, well, then no more Avatar for you, you ungrateful pieces of shit!

The law of diminishing returns is in full effect for his overblown, tedious franchise, both financially and artistically. Fire and Ass is down somewhere around 35% in domestic box-office receipts compared to the opening of the prior film in the trilogy, The Way of Water Is the Equivalent of 50 MGs of Melatonin. I hope Christmas has been ruined for James Cameron, and, oh god, I hope his latest cinematic digital dump is the last of the storyline.

Actually, calling the Cameron-penned plot of Fire and Blue Assholes a “storyline” is a stretch. It’s basically the same movie as the last one, with a bunch of slim, blue Rastafari-knock-off distant relatives of Jar Jar Binks and John Travolta’s character in Battlefield Earth running around with their asses hanging out, occasionally hissing like cats, and saying “bro” a lot. The mundane dialogue is an attempt to propel the same endless story of humans trying to screw with the environmentally sound Na’vi, with countless, repetitive battle scenes thrown into the mess.





Bro...

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Friday, December 26, 2025 3:45 PM

Wicked: For Good is still doing ok in Australia and nu-Avatar and Zootopia 2 fighting for 1st and second place


in Europe its difficult t o get reports during Christmas its mostly Avtar vs Zootopa but some unsual ones are Dead of Winter (2025 film) doing very good in Finland, I believe Dead of Winter is a US indie film with some overseas funding, website Rotten Tomatoes, 77% of 73 critics' reviews are positive.
Five Nights at Freddy’s 2 the horror is doing good in Croatia


the Avatar story is perhaps kinda video game simple like a Pocahontas or Dances with Wolves with bad guys from Earth with military machines...its somewhat empty of character but its spectacle sells

https://mimorin2014.com/blog-entry-50702.html

Avatar is doing ok overseas but it could be doing better, its at Fourth Place in Japan
Seat Rank Sales (Compared to Previous) Seats (Occupancy Rate) Avatar 3 has lost 40% + of its seats

a local movie is doing well
'Japan falls into emergency state due to a series of devastating typhoons'
https://asianwiki.com/Emergency_Interrogation_Room:_The_Final

Zootopia 2 has been at number 1 in Japan


South Korea. Avatar: Fire and Ash hit number 1 spot in S Korea and Zootopia 2 at 2nd place


the trend of local made films in their foreign markets pushing Hollywood films out and then spreading to box office across other regions continues

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Saturday, December 27, 2025 4:30 AM

Did you catch that last weekend an A24 movie that only opened up in 6 theaters hit the Top 10 list for the weekend with just under $1 Million? Per theater it out-grossed Avatar 3 by about 6 times.

They opened it wide to 2668 theaters on weekend 2 and it got 2nd place with $18 Million.


Sounds like great news for Marty Supreme, until you see that the production budget for that movie was somehow $70 Million.

Oops.

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Saturday, December 27, 2025 9:36 PM

Avatar: Fire and Ash (2025) vs. Marty Supreme (2025) vs. Avatar: The Way of Water (2022)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Avatar-Fire-and-
Ash-(2025)/Marty-Supreme-(2025)/Avatar-The-Way-of-Water-(2022)#tab=day_by_day_comparison




prediction overall?

I think we did ok

user SECOND maybe there were predictions but having gone through a quick scan a quick speed read on some of the thread I see mostly article links posted

but as stated if you predict 'Flops' most of the time you are correct!



Snow White LMFAO that prediction was easy

Wick Ballerina 2025 another easy prediction

Bugonia a budget 55 million a Box office $39 million... we knew it would flop, I dont think we took much notice

Predator Badlands...those Predator Alien movies rarely make money in theatres even if they are liked

Nu-Tron was just terrible


it could be one of Hollywood's worst years yet but there was that really bad year after the Covid virus


Critics cant save or promote a film, Dwayne Johnson Movie ‘The Smashing Machine’ got great reviews but still crashed



Both of us realized Zootopia 2 would be a big winner

Trump Voight Hollyweird...neither of us expected Trump to pass all that tariff sanctions Law to save that Commiefornia film industry that hates him anyways

Ne Zha 2....I dont know maybe its real, if it was the first time the Chinese had their own epic story George Washington meets Superman, Paul Bunyan, Spider-Man, John Henry steel driving man and Robin Hood meets Greece and Rome
...and if maybe it appeals to everyone including kids
plus maybe just maybe if the tv and your facebooks and tiktoks was spamming everyone to go see it like they told everyone to see it like the first Gladiator or Avatar or Captain Marvel or Black Panther or Avengers...
...and if China had gotten much richer which it has done
also if Hollywood / Hollyweird was in decline
plus it it was the holiday vacation season which it was then maybe just maybe


but a figure just short of 2 Billion is a VERY HIGH number


Minecraft Movie?
did we call that? not really
it almost broke 1 Billion $958,111,414


much stronger than either of us predicted and it stayed at number 1 for most of the year

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Even without seeing the international numbers, I'd say my top-end prediction of $650 is looking pretty good right now. Could make even more than this if the interest stays high and it gets a proper run in theaters before getting yanked. And this could be the first time in a long while that the Chinese box office plays a factor in the end result.



‘Mickey 17’ crashed bad I did not see it crashing so hard,

on the horror genre they should have kept budgets 'Lower' but Sinners had good feedback

the comicbook genre continues to die but its not dead, Superman did ok but not enough to relaunch the Warner Bros DC franchise...WB might be for sale
Thunderbolts, Fan4 superhero stuff is mostly dead...mostly...they are moving on to Japan toons
New Captain America struggled


it was expected a lot of SJW DEI Tranny Open Border 'politics messages' type of stuff would flop and it did

Anime and the South Korean market and indie US and indie European film is here and everyone wants a Video Game made into a show or movie
Matt Walsh hates Japan film, their toons but does he have a secret type fethish sin spending his nights watching sinful Japanese toons...and later calls it work of the devil.

Now the SKoreans are outsmarting animation studios with K-Pop Demon Hunters

People see left vs right and Palestine Israel in everything even when its not, its just a movie guys!
but we are in a political divide now and 'culture war'

Stephen King is dumb and cant keep his mouth shut even after a horrific shooting
and Trump pisses on the grave of murdered celebs

“Wicked For Good” overseas it flopped but it continues to sell in the USA.
FNAF2 and new-Avatar are still in cinema theaters...continuing

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Sunday, December 28, 2025 4:29 PM

Nu-Avatar movie

Avatar Fire and Ash

1st Thursday
$24,000,000 /
$153,693,465

2nd Friday
$22,600,000 /
$176,293,465

2nd Saturday
$22,200,000 /
$198,493,465

2nd Sunday
$19,200,000 /
$217,693,465




Estimated Daily BoxOffice Top 8 for Friday

1. #AvatarFireAndAsh - $22.60M
2. #MartySupreme - $6.73M
3. #Zootopia2 - $6.70M
4. #AnacondaMovie - $5.40M
5. #TheHousemaidMovie - $5.25M
6. #David - $4.74M
7. #SpongeBobMovie - $3.84M
8. #SongSungBlue - $2.66M

https://x.com/BORReport/status/2004963884416073771#m


Looks like they are trying to make Racing (F1), Arena Fighting (The Rock) and Sportsball a thing again...or is it Sport/Comedy?
...or is it a drama??


Disney / 20th Century's Avatar: Fire and Ash grossed an estimated $22.6M on Friday (from 3,800 locations). Estimated total domestic gross stands at $176.29M.

https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3may57sv2k22
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Marty Supreme (2025) vs. Cars 2 (2011) vs. Jerry Maguire (1996)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Marty-Supreme-(2
025)/Cars-2/Jerry-Maguire#tab=day_by_day_comparison


Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian (2009) vs. Marty Supreme (2025) vs. Barbie (2023)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Night-at-the-Mus
eum-Battle-of-the-Smithsonian/Marty-Supreme-(2025)/Barbie-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


Marty Supreme (2025) vs. Inside Out 2 (2024) vs. Meet the Fockers (2004)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Marty-Supreme-(2
025)/Inside-Out-2-(2024)/Meet-the-Fockers#tab=day_by_day_comparison

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Monday, December 29, 2025 3:22 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Hollywood budgets are still way too high

and our predictions are more accurate than 'movie industry experts'



Yeah. I think overall we did pretty good this year.

Maybe one wrong prediction each?

We were certainly way closer to the truth in almost every movie we bothered commenting on than Bruce or anybody over at Variety and Deadline were all year long.





I really don't buy that Chinese "win" though.

I'm sure now that the year is over it will probably get at least some coverage, but I don't get the feeling that anybody else has been taking it that seriously either. Pretty sure I haven't ever seen a single article pointing this out to anyone at least.

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Monday, December 29, 2025 3:37 AM

Comparisons for A3 vs. A2's 2nd weekend are just about worthless.

Anyone writing about it doesn't seem to shy away from pointing that out, but they'll still celebrate the numbers by comparison, nonetheless.

Christmas fell on Sunday last year.


This will be the last big week for it, and then the kids go back to school.

Let's see what it does next weekend.

I have some serious doubts right now that it can even make half a Billion in the US before it's out of theaters. Unless it has amazing legs, it probably falls quite a bit short of that, actually.

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Monday, December 29, 2025 9:22 PM

a Race to the Finish Line btw


Avatar: Fire and Ash (2025) vs. Zootopia 2 (2025) vs. Wicked: For Good (2025)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Avatar-Fire-and-
Ash-(2025)/Zootopia-2-(2025)/Wicked-For-Good-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


Korea Box Office: ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’ Dominates as ‘Zootopia 2’ Holds Strong
https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/korea-box-office-avatar-fire-
and-ash-zootopia-2-1236618837
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Disney's Zootopia 2 has passed the $1.4 billion global mark. The film grossed an estimated $67.9M internationally this weekend. Estimated international total stands at $1.099B (including $561.1M in China), estimated global total stands at $1.421B.
https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3mb2prjjvws2
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markets
China $561.1M
US/Canada $321.4M
France $55.9M
Japan $52.2M
South Korea $49.1M
Germany $34M


Weekend Box Office Est. - Australia
https://x.com/numeroboxoffice/status/2005434566941810763#m
1. #AvatarFireAndAsh - $8.29M
2. #AnacondaMovie - $3.54M
3. #TheHousemaid - $2.86M


Universal's Wicked: For Good grossed an estimated $5.26M this weekend (from 2,008 locations), which was an 8% increase from last weekend. Estimated total domestic gross stands at $331.62M.
https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3mb2mvhcuas2
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Estimated Weekend #BoxOffice
https://x.com/BORReport/status/2005329567788208143#m
1. #AvatarFireAndAsh - $64.00M
2. #Zootopia2 - $20.00M
3. #MartySupreme - $17.52M
4. #TheHousemaidMovie - $15.40M
5. #AnacondaMovie - $14.55M
6. #David - $12.69M
7. #SpongeBobMovie - $11.20M
8. #SongSungBlue - $7.60M

DEADLINE: 'Dune: Part 3' will keep all IMAX screens and not move from its December 18 2026 release date, when it opens alongside 'Avengers: Doomsday'
https://deadline.com/2025/12/box-office-2026-preview-1236657116/

Even 'Avatar: Fire and Ash' can't lift 2025 box office out of pandemic-crisis doldrums
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2025-12-29/e
ven-avatar-fire-ash-cant-lift-2025-box-office-out-of-pandemic-crisis-doldrums


Predicting Hollywood in 2026O
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/predictions-hollywood-2026/

Make-Up, Hair Stylists Guild Nominations: 'One Battle After Another'
https://variety.com/2025/artisans/awards/makeup-hairstylist-guild-nomi
nations-2026-frankenstein-1236618665
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Tuesday, December 30, 2025 12:53 AM

Why there's no good reason to go to a movie theater anymore

By Mick LaSalle | Dec 29, 2025
Mick LaSalle is the film critic emeritus of the Chronicle. Email: askmicklasalle@gmail.com

https://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/movies-tv/article/movie-thea
ters-dying-lasalle-21257675.php


Dear Mick LaSalle: A recent Wall Street Journal article forecasted the curtain call for movie theaters within 10 years and cited declining attendance trends. Essentially, the current building footprints no longer generate the revenue per square foot needed for a reasonable return on investment. What are two things you would recommend to prevent the demise of the neighborhood multiplex?

Ken Kramer, Novato, California

Dear Ken Kramer: I don't have two things. I got nothing.

It used to be that the real experience of a movie was in the theater. If you saw a movie on TV, it was on a small screen, with commercials, and sometimes the movies were even cut short to fit the time slot the station needed to fill. Even after the arrival of VHS, the home video experience was still just a blurry, small-scale replica of the real thing. But that's no longer the case.

Today, the home video experience rivals the theater experience. Screens are big - if you have a video projector it can be 9- or 10-feet wide - and the clarity and sound are remarkable.

So why leave your living room to go to a movie theater? Why park your car and pay $18 for a ticket to watch 40 minutes of commercials and trailers before the movie even starts - just to be in an empty theater or, even worse, a packed house with people behind you coughing into your popcorn?

And that's a good night. A bad night is when you've got people answering their cellphones all around you and you're afraid to complain because, who knows, they might be crazy.

So I really see no reason why anyone would want to go to a multiplex, unless you're a teenage couple in search of a dark place.

That said, I do see why people would want to go to a specialty or repertory house, such as the Roxie, the Smith Rafael, the Stanford, the Balboa, the 4-Star, the Vogue and the Pacific Film Archive, because the programs there are well curated, and they show lots of movies you can't stream at home.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 30, 2025 4:40 AM

Shut up, faggot.

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