Ward Churchill - NOT a Native American? Fire him.
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UPDATED: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 03:59
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
...I've been reading through it (in bits and pieces) and I have to say it does sound like a polemic. I wonder if Churchill might be projecting Indian-American relations onto current affairs a bit much.
It doesn't surprise me that AIM is not a fan of Churchill's. He's definitely one of those people who do not tone down their rhetoric for political expediency.
Yep. Most of his publications I can find are pretty much takes on the "Evil White Man" theme. Not much on the traditional ethnic studies front. I'd be tempted to classify him as a one-note poseur who is intentionally provocative so he can gain the admiration of like-minded haters. A final determination requires more study.
Apparently several tribes and Native American organizations have been complaining to UC-Boulder for the past ten years or so about Churchill donning the mantle of noble defender of his oppressed kinsmen while not being able to provide any evidence that he is Indian at all.
I doubt he'll lose his job over this unless his resume was horribly padded. after all, the university wanted him so much that they hired him as a department head without the normal prerequisite of a doctorate.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Ward Churchill - NOT a Native American? Fire him.
What I wonder is how this thread - which was speculation about what should be done to Churchill, based on speculation about CU hiring practices, based on speculation of Churchill's ancestry - could be seriously posted. There was not one ounce of fact about Churchill's heritage, and not one ounce of fact about how he got his position, and yet people (you know who you are) leapt to uncalled-for conclusions.
More interesting, substantiated and consequential, is the Guckert humiliation.
It's true he was NOT a journalist when he interviewed Ari Fleischer. How does something like that happen, when real journalists, even those who covered the WH for over 10 years, couldn't get an entry? And why was Guckert called-on so frequently? Of course Guckert should have resigned (he did). In addition, the speculation of how he got there and how he knew so many details ahead of time, is ample, and rightly so. And now he's under investigation about Plame, too. It just keeps getting better.
As to Churchill, the item below is interesting, if true. I'm willing to wait to see if this proves out.
http://nativenationsnet.net/
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Ward Churchill tests positive for Indigenous genetic markers.
Posted by: Admin on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 02:21 PM
by Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - February 7, 2005 - (ACN) The results of a much awaited ancestry genetic test of embattled American Indian scholar Ward Churchill conclusively proves that the professor of American Indian Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder is in fact of both Creek and Cherokee descent. Professor Churchill has recently been the victim of a campaign of disinformation claiming that he was not a Native American.
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I'm shocked, shocked to see that no one from the right side of the aisle wants to talk about James Guckert. 
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Churchill admits he's not a Native American, and now it comes out he was accused of plagiarism
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7156384/
I promised myself I would'nt post in political threads anymore, but Churchill is such a D*ckhead, I could'nt resist.
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Quote:Actually, what Churchill said was
Churchill admits he's not a Native American
Quote:Very different from your twisted half-*ssed version, you may have noticed.
"I'm not a Native American, I'm an Indian."
And despite everything we know about Guckert, somehow, you can't bring yourself to call him a D*ckhead, though the idiom is refreshingly appropriate in his case.
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You know, until I read your post, I had'nt heard that he was misquoted in Hawaii. My bad.
I read the retraction in the paper posted, so
what he did say was he was less than 1/4 Indian.
Zero is less than 1/4 isnt it?
All these real Indian groups seem to agree he is not an indian.....and have been petitioning CU to dump him for years. Mmmmmm.
How come you did'nt comment about the plagiarism Rue. Just curious mind you.
It's apparently not the first time he has done it, and not the first time he's threatened violence either.
It looks like he may lose his golden tenure parachute from CU due to the Plagiarism and threatening of the female Nova Scotia professor.
Not to mention his physical attack of the Journalist who dared to ask him about the Native American artwork he copied and passed off as his own. Or the female CU professor who was physically threatened by him on campus.
Why do you defend this Turd Rue?
By the way, what does Guckert have to do with the subject of this thread?
Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.
BarnStormer
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Oooh, let me answer for Barstormer.
Because Guckert's lies, which gained him a professional position (White House reporter) is nothing like Churchill's lie, which MIGHT HAVE gained him a professional postion (professor). Because that's DIFFERENT. Guckert is cleaner. Guckert has an upstanding personal history. Guckert is clearly unbiased.
Actually, the interesting thing about Guckert is that he apparently knew things MONTHS in advance of White House annoucements, even months in adavcne of becoming a so-called White House reporter. Nothing like benefitting from a little pillow-talk, eh? So, who in the WH like boy toys, hmmmm? I think that's why the right doesn't want to talk about him.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Oooh, let me answer for Barstormer.
Because Guckert's lies, which gained him a professional position (White House reporter) is nothing like Churchill's lie, which MIGHT HAVE gained him a professional postion (professor). Because that's DIFFERENT. Guckert is cleaner. Guckert has an upstanding personal history. Guckert is clearly unbiased.
Actually, the interesting thing about Guckert is that he apparently knew things MONTHS in advance of White House annoucements, even months in adavcne of becoming a so-called White House reporter. Nothing like benefitting from a little pillow-talk, eh?
Wow SignyM,
Thats alot of innuendo you put in that post. Pillow talk? Boy toy?
You know, I really have'nt been following the Guckert deal closely at all. You make it sound very "Peyton Placeish". Maybe you should start your own internet rumor, call it "Faggot-gate" or something.
For some reason I just can't do the visual on Guckert and Condi.
How come no one will comment on the Churchill Plagarism deal? I mean after all, it included both written essays and works of art. Coupled with threats of violence if his accusers don't keep their mouths shut?
Never mind the 9/11 essay or the dubious ancestry, this turd is disgrace to his supposed profession.
Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.
BarnStormer
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CONDI???? Perhaps you haven't heard of Guckert's...er... predelictions? I was picturing Karl Rove; it's much more interesting that way.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
CONDI???? Perhaps you haven't heard of Guckert's...er... predelictions? I was picturing Karl Rove; it's much more interesting that way.
Hah!
I could'nt do a visual with Condi.....
but I don't WANT to do a Visual of Karl Rove..
Yech
Oh, God.....The Horror....The Horror...
I've heard of Guckerts "Predelictions". It seems to me that's his business, not mine.
But again, what about the plagiarism??????
Last I heard, that was real reason for dismissal from an educational post.
So, what do you think?
Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.
BarnStormer
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