IRAN: Trump's war?

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THG

Wednesday, June 18, 2025 3:52 AM

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I think you may be looking at all of this through a far too conventional lens.

Hey, isn't this when you are supposed to call Trump a war monger?

T

Warmonger is one word, stupid.

Hey wow, Gilligan found another, sort of, misspelled word. That is if you never got past high school.

Yes, the word "war monger" can be spelled using two words. It can be broken down into "war" and "monger"1.

Oops

T

SECOND

Wednesday, June 18, 2025 5:29 AM

Who Is in Charge of the Government?
And does he know what his own positions are?

By Ben Mathis-Lilley | June 17, 2025 5:54 PM

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/06/donald-trump-reversal-iran
-ice-raids.html

Two stories in the news this week raise the question of who is currently in charge of the world’s most powerful country, the United States.

First, there’s the Wall Street Journal piece about how the U.S. government does not believe Israel’s claim that Iran is moving forward with an attempt to build a nuclear weapon.

Long story short, the U.S. didn’t support Israel’s military escalation against Iran because it doesn’t believe what Israel says about Iran’s nuclear plans. (In the New York Times’ phrasing, it “distanced itself from the strikes” via a statement by Secretary of State Marco Rubio.)

Except that, as the Journal notes, Donald Trump now says that Iran is “very close” to building a nuclear weapon; Trump is also, according to multiple Tuesday reports, considering ordering the U.S. military to bomb the country too. What changed? Not a ton, at least as far as new intelligence, input from allies, or Iranian belligerence. It’s just that Trump, in the Times’ euphemistic description, has “cycled” to a different position, one on which he “continues to gyrate.” (Sounds beautiful, perhaps even alluring.) Does he know what his own position was a few days ago? Who can say! According to the Times’ report, which, euphemisms aside, is impressively detailed, Trump told “associates” last week that he had urged Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, not to attack Iran—only to begin telling reporters this week that he “had played a bigger behind-the-scenes role in the war than people realized.” (The paper suggests that the president’s change of heart may have come after he got excited watching footage of Israeli strikes on Fox News.)

In a similar vein, there is the Washington Post’s new report that Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have told agents to “continue conducting immigration raids at agricultural businesses, hotels and restaurants.” This reverses a directive not to target those venues that was itself issued last week, after Trump posted on his Truth Social site that ICE would back off farms and hotels because “very good, long time workers” were being detained. Compounding the confusion, the (new) Post report notes that the directive that was issued because of Trump’s post has been overruled because “the White House did not support it.” Who runs the White House? I thought it was the president!

These are things that have happened only this week. In late May, the State Department announced that it would be revoking visas issued to Chinese students in the U.S. who have “connections to the Chinese Communist Party” or study in “critical fields.” But last Wednesday, Trump wrote on Truth Social that “Chinese students using our colleges and universities” have “always been good with me.” What else might turn out to be American policy, or have been American policy already, unbeknownst to President Memento (2001, dir. Christopher Nolan) and/or the members of his Cabinet? It will be exciting to find out.

Who’s in charge of the government?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, June 18, 2025 5:56 AM

Congress Has One Way to Stop Trump From Going to War With Iran

A War Powers Resolution would prohibit the "United States Armed Forces from unauthorized hostilities in the Islamic Republic of Iran."

By Jessica Washington | June 17 2025, 7:39 p.m.

https://theintercept.com/2025/06/17/iran-war-powers-resolution-congres
s-israel-trump-massie-khanna/

As President Donald Trump draws the United States perilously close to war with Iran, some members of Congress are working across the aisle in an attempt to reign him in.

On Tuesday, Representatives Thomas Massie, R-Ky., and Ro Khanna, D-Calif., introduced a War Powers Resolution, which would prohibit the “United States Armed Forces from unauthorized hostilities in the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

Senator Tim Kaine, D-Va., introduced similar legislation in the Senate on Monday.

“U.S. involvement in Israel’s war with Iran is a red line. We need Congress to speak out about that and pass a resolution prohibiting that,” Rep. Khanna told The Intercept. “And we need the United States to try to bring this war between Israel and Iran to an end.”

The War Powers Resolution, enacted in 1973, requires an act of Congress to declare a war. Over the decades, however, presidents have repeatedly ignored the federal law to deploy U.S. troops overseas without Congressional approval, ensnaring the U.S. in numerous foreign wars. Massie noted in his press release that War Powers Resolutions are privileged in the House and “can be called up for debate and a floor vote after 15 calendar days without action in committee.”

The resolution comes against a backdrop of escalating missile strikes between Israel and Iran over the last five days, beginning with Israel’s attack on Iranian nuclear and military facilities ahead of scheduled negotiations between the U.S. and Iranian leadership.

As attacks have continued, so too have concerns about direct U.S. involvement in the conflict. On Tuesday, Trump ratcheted up those fears with a string of Truth Social posts taunting the Iranian regime and calling for its surrender.

“We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran,” he wrote. “Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured ‘stuff.’ Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.”

In another post, he claimed to have the location of Iran’s Supreme leader. “We know exactly where the so-called ‘Supreme Leader’ is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there – We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now,” Trump wrote. And in a third post, he called for Iran’s “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!” News reports emerged Tuesday afternoon that in a meeting in the White House situation room, Trump told officials he was considering joining Israel’s strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities.

Even before Tuesday, lawmakers expressed concerns about the lack of clarity from the president and senior military leadership. Last week, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth refused to offer assurances to Rep. Khanna that the U.S. would stand up to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and not get dragged into the oncoming conflict. And on Monday, while leaving the Group of Seven summit in Alberta, Canada, Trump refused to answer a reporter’s questions about whether the U.S. military would get involved in the war.

“I don’t want to talk about that,” he told reporters.

Congresswoman Summer Lee D-Pa., told The Intercept that it is Congress’s duty to intervene and prevent Trump from usurping their authority.

“Since taking office, Trump has continuously tried to supersede Congress and is now using the escalating crisis between Israel and Iran to justify executive overreach. Congressional authorization is not optional, and many are already opposed to being dragged into another endless war,” wrote Rep. Lee in a statement.

The Pennsylvania representative also alluded to

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, June 18, 2025 7:04 AM

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Originally posted by THG:

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I think you may be looking at all of this through a far too conventional lens.

Hey, isn't this when you are supposed to call Trump a war monger?

T

Warmonger is one word, stupid.

Hey wow, Gilligan found another, sort of, misspelled word. That is if you never got past high school.

Yes, the word "war monger" can be spelled using two words. It can be broken down into "war" and "monger"1.

Oops

T

No. It is one word.

You are an illiterate idiot, and everyone already knows that about you.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 19, 2025 2:10 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 19, 2025 1:48 PM

close to the strait of hormuz

The tanker Adalynn is burning in the Gulf of Oman after being rammed by the tanker Front Eagle?

The Israeli Air Force has struck the Ilam Petrochemical Plant in western Iran.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1935105179243921638#m
'It produces some of the chemicals used to propel Iran’s ballistic missiles'

quote Ted Cruz
'Tucker Carlson is obsessed with defending Russia and the KGB thug that runs it.'
https://x.com/tedcruz/status/1935400776211243458#m

Damage seen to several high-rise buildings in Downtown Tel-Aviv as a result of an impact from an Iranian ballistic missile.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1935560280395715063

Footage captures the new Iranian missiles launched towards Israel.
https://x.com/MonitorX99800/status/1935446416727433524#m

Soroka Medical Center
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1935562111175803297

Iran says remains committed to diplomacy but acts in 'self-defence' against Israel
https://x.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1935451649092255821

Another angle of the Iranian ballistic missile impact earlier on Soroka Medical Center in the city of Beersheba, as well as the resulting shockwave from the impact.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1935573047617917015

British aircraft carrier R08 Queen Elizabeth passes through the Suez Canal.
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1935566121979224446

The site of a ballistic missile impact earlier in Ramat Gan, to the east of Tel-Aviv in Central Israel, with major damage seen to several high-rise buildings and other structures.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1935564133593694717

Even after intercepting ballistic missiles, the debris that falls can be devastating. This huge intercept fragment fell at the entrance to the city of Ariel in Samaria.
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1935563518461538504

“Explosions Reported Near Iran's Arak Nuclear Site”
https://x.com/OSINTOperation/status/1935547931630715127
Israeli strike reported near Arak heavy water facility. No immediate details on damage or casualties.

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 19, 2025 6:22 PM

Trump says supporters ‘more in love’ with him than ever, as MAGA world splits over Iran

https://japantoday.com/category/world/trump-says-supporters-are-%27mor
e-in-love%27-with-him-than-ever-as-involvement-in-iran-roils-maga-world#comments

Scofield Bible has had a significant influence on the Christian Zionist

https://www.wrmea.org/2015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-ma
de-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.html

Rand Paul and those masonic jewbox airwaves that suddenly break down?
https://files.catbox.moe/jxt233.mp4

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Thursday, June 19, 2025 7:01 PM

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no Boots on the ground ...yet

but Trump is saying some strange stuff and posting odd remarks on social media.

Strange because Trump doesn’t have a foreign policy

What he has instead is the promise of chaos.

By Zack Beauchamp | Jun 18, 2025, 5:30 AM CDT

https://www.vox.com/on-the-right-newsletter/417156/trump-foreign-polic
y-ukraine-israel-iran

For years, there has been an increasingly bitter foreign policy fight between two factions of the Republican Party. On one hand, you have the GOP hawks like Sen. Lindsey Graham (SC) who want the United States to impose its will on the world by force. On the other, you have the “America First” crowd — like Tucker Carlson and Vice President JD Vance — who want the US to withdraw from international commitments and refocus its attention on domestic concerns.

The big question, as always, is where President Donald Trump lands. If Trump says that the MAGA foreign policy is one thing, then that’s what it is — and the rest of the party falls in line.

On one read, Trump’s early response to the Israel-Iran war settles the debate in the hawks’ favor. After months of opposing an Israeli strike, Trump rapidly flipped after the attack looked more and more successful. Since then, his rhetoric has grown increasingly heated, opening the door to possible US involvement. And he has publicly attacked Carlson for criticizing the war, writing on Truth Social that “somebody [should] please explain to kooky Tucker Carlson that, ‘IRAN CAN NOT HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON!’”

And yet, I think the factional debate remains far less settled than it seems. In fact, I believe it will remain unsettled as long as Trump is in power.

Trump’s own foreign policy thinking does not align neatly with either of the two main camps. The president does not do systematic foreign policy, but rather acts on the basis of a collection of impulses that could never amount to anything so grandiose as a doctrine. Those gut instincts include a sense that the United States should look out for itself only, ignore any rules or norms that might constrain it, use force aggressively without regard to civilian casualties, and seek “deals” with other states that advantage the United States and/or make Donald Trump look good personally.

It looks, in effect, like an internationalized version of Trump’s approach to New York real estate in the 1980s and 1990s.

This isn’t a new observation: I’ve been making versions of this case since his 2016 campaign, and it’s been well-supported by both his first term and early second-term record.

But its significance for US policy is widely underappreciated. His lack of ideology does not mean that he can be permanently persuaded by one faction or the other, but rather produces volatility. The president has teetered back and forth between interventionism and isolationism, depending on the interplay between Trump’s idiosyncratic instincts and whoever he’s talking with on a particular day.

Given the near-dictatorial power modern presidents have over foreign policy, this will likely produce something worse than ideological rigidity: an incoherent, mutually contradictory policy that ends up undermining itself at every turn. At a moment of acute geopolitical peril, when Trump’s ascendant hawkish allies are calling for yet another war of regime change in the Middle East, it’s easy to see how that could end in true disaster.

Trump’s real foreign policy guide is his instincts

Foreign policy analysts like to talk a lot about “grand strategy.” What they mean by this is a vision that identifies the objectives leaders want to accomplish in world politics — like, say, protecting American territories from physical threats — and then develops a series of specific policies designed to work together in accomplishing that goal.

Both the right’s hawks and the America First crowd have distinct visions of grand strategy.

The hawks start from the premise that the United States benefits from being the world’s dominant power, and from there

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 19, 2025 11:13 PM

Republi-Cons ...Decepti-crats...More than meets the lie

while Iran has been ruled by islamist scum it now seems to be Zionist Donald and Moral Bankruptcy forgot to drain the swamp, Evangelical Doomsday Endtimes Deep State has become reality.

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, June 20, 2025 4:46 PM

Why does Ted Cruz almost melt down when Tucker brings up AIPAC? Like he’s hiding something. Very strange.

https://x.com/gc22gc/status/1935866036303376548

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