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IRAN: Trump's war?

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
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Tuesday, June 17, 2025 9:29 AM

Trump isn't playing 5D chess, he's being blown by whatever forces kiss his ass better.

Trump SHOULD stay the fuck out of the ME.

But, but ...

He likes Jews. He thinks Israeli Zionists are like his buddy, Steve Witkoff.

His son in law is a Jew, as is his daughter (she coverted).

Miriam Adelson, widow of billionaire Sheldon Adelson, and Zionist in her own right, gave him a fuckton of money.

Almost 100% of Congress "supports Israel" (just like they supported Ukraine.)

Most of his low-information base thinks all Jews are victims and all Muslims are terrorists.

Trump's big mouth and his even bigger ego are tied to Israel.

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SOME of his base ... Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene ... me ... understand what a corner Trump is backing into. The only thing saving Trump from himself is probably Putin, who is likely advising Trump to stay out of it, and Iran to negotiate. Iran has the capacity to destroy Israel. According to the following video, Israel has only two big power generating stations (one was bombed already) and most of its population depends on 8 desalination plants on the Mediterranean. Since (according to the reporter) Israel was stupid enough to bomb Tehran's water supply ...

I'll post the link later.

The only thing that could save Israel is USA's all-out war on Iran. Do we really want to go there?



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Tuesday, June 17, 2025 9:44 AM

You don't know what Trump is thinking anymore than Ted does.

Why do you think that Trump likes Jews, just because his son-in-law was a Jew? I've had plenty of family schisms over the generations in my own family just because of who people have chosen to marry. Some people tolerate things they can't agree with while others blow things up about it.

All I'm saying is that pretty much everyone who has said anything about Trump or his motives or his words or even his actions have ultimately been wrong once everything has played out.

And claim that Trump is all about his own Ego all you want, but at the end of the day America is already 1,000% better off right now than it was 6 months ago, and I don't see any reason to believe that's going to stop tomorrow, regardless of whatever headlines are being written or whatever fearmongering the media from any side says about anything.

Things ARE working out for the better right now. And people like Ted and Second HATE this because their party has never been weaker in their entire lifetime than it is right now, and if things continue to get better then the Democrats will just continue to lose power and relevance.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2025 9:46 AM

It the IRAN IS PREPARING FOR A LONG WAR video

https://substack.com/@rachelblevins

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Tuesday, June 17, 2025 9:51 AM

And at the end of the day, who cares?

Not this guy.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2025 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You don't know what Trump is thinking anymore than Ted does.

Why do you think that Trump likes Jews, just because his son-in-law was a Jew? I've had plenty of family schisms over the generations in my own family just because of who people have chosen to marry. Some people tolerate things they can't agree with while others blow things up about it.

All I'm saying is that pretty much everyone who has said anything about Trump or his motives or his words or even his actions have ultimately been wrong once everything has played out.

And claim that Trump is all about his own Ego all you want, but at the end of the day America is already 1,000% better off right now than it was 6 months ago, and I don't see any reason to believe that's going to stop tomorrow, regardless of whatever headlines are being written or whatever fearmongering the media from any side says about anything.

Things ARE working out for the better right now. And people like Ted and Second HATE this because their party has never been weaker in their entire lifetime than it is right now, and if things continue to get better then the Democrats will just continue to lose power and relevance.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon



I think Trump likes ISRAEL bc he's committed himself over and over, thru two admins so far, that he supports Israel. It's a constant with him.

In some ways things are better

The flood of illegals is stopped
The DEI/LGBTQ+ nonsense seems to be slowing down
Inflation is down
We DO seem to be edging out of Ukraine.

1000% better? Hardly



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Tuesday, June 17, 2025 11:27 PM

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Sonar21

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Donald Trump Doubles Down on Crazy

16 June 2025 by Larry C. Johnson 282 Comments

Clean up in aisle five. Someone needs to tackle Donald Trump and confiscate his phone. He should not be allowed to post on Truth Social until some adult with a measure of common sense has a chance to review prospective Trump posts. Roughly sixteen million people live in the Tehran metropolitan area. Where would they go? This post by Trump has caused many around the world to take a hard gulp and wonder if Trump is serious. Telegram channels are spinning frantically with claims, non-verified, that the US is going to attack Iran, but the White House has issued a denial. Take that with a hefty grain of salt.

The White House tried to downplay Trump’s remark by claiming that Trump’s post calling for the immediate evacuation of Tehran reflects his desire to urgently bring Iran back to the negotiating table. I’m not sure there is enough lipstick in Washington to cover this pig and make it look beautiful. However, Trump reportedly wants J.D. Vance and Steve Witkoff to meet later this week with Iranian officials… just one more example of the schizoid behavior of Trump. I don’t know about you, but I am growing weary of his clownish behavior.

The chaos in the Trump White House is not confined to the Iran/Israel war. Maria Zakharova, the spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, made the following announcement around 4 pm Moscow time:

Today, the next meeting within the framework of bilateral consultations on eliminating irritants in order to normalize the activities of diplomatic missions of both countries has been canceled at the initiative of American negotiators. We hope that the pause they took will not be too long.

I think Putin and his foreign policy team understand that Trump is a flake and are responding calmly, at least in public, to Donald’s contradictory words and actions. Russia is still ready to intercede with Iran and Israel in hopes of securing a ceasefire, but the Kremlin first has to figure out what Donald Trump’s policy is — i.e., war or peace.

The irrationality of the West with respect to Iran is illustrated by the following facts:

* Iran:
Does not possess nuclear weapons.
Is a party to the NPT (Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons).
Allows IAEA inspections.
Reports on the movement of enriched uranium.
Under constant international pressure and sanctions.
Declared a threat – only for the potential possibility of creating nuclear weapons.

* Israel:
De facto possesses a nuclear arsenal (estimates: ~80-200 warheads).Did not sign the NPT.
Does not allow international inspectors.
Completely classifies the nuclear program.
Receives support and military assistance from the West.
Declared a “stronghold of democracy” and allegedly a victim.

In other words, Iran, the one country that does not have a nuke and is abiding by international law governing nuclear weapons, is the villain, while Israel, who is flouting those laws, is being treated as the victim. Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaking of making sense, Tucker Carlson had the audacity to point out that Trump’s support of Israel’s war on Iran borders is political suicide for Trump. Instead of thanking Tucker for the warning, Trump attacked Carlson:



Yeah, Tucker should give up his internet platform, which attracts millions of views, and get back on some irrelevant network that only attracts less than a million viewers. Gotta give Trump credit… he has a knack for posting some really stupid tweets.



https://sonar21.com/donald-trump-doubles-down-on-crazy/

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Wednesday, June 18, 2025 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You don't know what Trump is thinking anymore than Ted does.

Why do you think that Trump likes Jews, just because his son-in-law was a Jew? I've had plenty of family schisms over the generations in my own family just because of who people have chosen to marry. Some people tolerate things they can't agree with while others blow things up about it.

All I'm saying is that pretty much everyone who has said anything about Trump or his motives or his words or even his actions have ultimately been wrong once everything has played out.

And claim that Trump is all about his own Ego all you want, but at the end of the day America is already 1,000% better off right now than it was 6 months ago, and I don't see any reason to believe that's going to stop tomorrow, regardless of whatever headlines are being written or whatever fearmongering the media from any side says about anything.

Things ARE working out for the better right now. And people like Ted and Second HATE this because their party has never been weaker in their entire lifetime than it is right now, and if things continue to get better then the Democrats will just continue to lose power and relevance.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon



I think Trump likes ISRAEL bc he's committed himself over and over, thru two admins so far, that he supports Israel. It's a constant with him.

In some ways things are better

The flood of illegals is stopped
The DEI/LGBTQ+ nonsense seems to be slowing down
Inflation is down
We DO seem to be edging out of Ukraine.

1000% better? Hardly



That is 1000% better. More than that.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2025 12:36 AM





Rev Tulsi Gabbard's assessment that Iran isn't building a nuclear weapon

Quote:

"I don't care what she says"


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Wednesday, June 18, 2025 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You don't know what Trump is thinking anymore than Ted does.

Why do you think that Trump likes Jews, just because his son-in-law was a Jew? I've had plenty of family schisms over the generations in my own family just because of who people have chosen to marry. Some people tolerate things they can't agree with while others blow things up about it.

All I'm saying is that pretty much everyone who has said anything about Trump or his motives or his words or even his actions have ultimately been wrong once everything has played out.

And claim that Trump is all about his own Ego all you want, but at the end of the day America is already 1,000% better off right now than it was 6 months ago, and I don't see any reason to believe that's going to stop tomorrow, regardless of whatever headlines are being written or whatever fearmongering the media from any side says about anything.

Things ARE working out for the better right now. And people like Ted and Second HATE this because their party has never been weaker in their entire lifetime than it is right now, and if things continue to get better then the Democrats will just continue to lose power and relevance.

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon



I think Trump likes ISRAEL bc he's committed himself over and over, thru two admins so far, that he supports Israel. It's a constant with him.

In some ways things are better

The flood of illegals is stopped
The DEI/LGBTQ+ nonsense seems to be slowing down
Inflation is down
We DO seem to be edging out of Ukraine.

1000% better? Hardly



That is 1000% better. More than that.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon



By what metric? How has YOUR life changed for the better? Besides feeling righteous and vindicated, and with a great oppty to pound on Dems and exercise your anger? Stop coddling your feelings. Numbers don't back you up.

SOME things better, yes. Some things (yet another war eating up our budget) worse.

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THG
Wednesday, June 18, 2025 3:51 AM

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