Guns, Guns, Guns.
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Well you have to start somewhere. And starting with what seems obvious would appear to be a natural way to find a solution.
Interestingly, there are Americans who pretty much oppose all three of those ideas, believing in:
*more guns are the solution. Everyone should possess arms
*No more public funding for mental health. Health should be for the private sector to provide. If people cannot pay, they do not receive treatment
*Focusing on empathy is a namby, pamby liberal notion. Laws should be severe, punishments for those who transgress - as harsh as possible. Both torture and capital punishment are condoned. Prisons should also be in the hands of the private sector and be 'profotable' as indeed they are in the US, thus slave labour continues to exist.
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We've had a very bad decade. I don't think we're in a good state as a nation, morally or rationally. Not the best state in which to be making sweeping decisions that affect people's civil rights. We've seen better days. And I do hope we'll get better again in time.
One thing Sandy Hook did that I think is crucial to the process is that it engaged a whole lot of people on an empathetic/brother's keeper kind of level. It made people truly, deeply desire real change and a better world not just for themselves and their families, but for all families. That's powerful. That's a wonderful thing and I hope it lasts.
Same thing happened immediately after 9/11 but it didn't last. It got twisted by our leaders' manipulation and our fellow Americans' unprocessed rage into the pretext for global atrocity.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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If I can be frank, it's not all about you. The social and political changes affecting the US are happening everywhere. It may be that you lead the world in ways that have been both positive and negative and it may be that your global power has waned somewhat, but you don't exist in a bubble.
That's why you and I can have conversations about society and make sense of what each other says (mostly).
Western nations suffer the same from the same malaise and the same benefits. People are not substantially less free in the UK or Australia than the US, despite differences in gun laws. Nor do they live in a crime free paradise.
Personally I think the western issues do revolve around these discussions we have on this board, in which we try to come to terms with some of the complexities of living in our respective countries. Issues like finding a balalance between individual rights and the functionability of a society, the role of government and privately owned businesses and how they function together, the responsibility of an individual for their own lives and the role of society in offering services/safety nets.
The main difference in the West really boil down to a few philosophical differences. Gun laws, and health services are two that spring immediately to mind.
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Just talk to this friendly school shooter, you don't need a gun for self defense...
http://dalje.com/en-world/video--student-kills-10-in-finnish-school-sh
ooting/185146
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jokela_school_shooting
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Attorney general prosecutors tell citizens to carry handguns in schools and colleges no matter what bogus law alleges that to be illegal (reported today by a Texas state representative):
http://archives2013.gcnlive.com/Archives2013/jan13/AlexJones/0101132.m
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Dr Suzanna Gratia-Hupp experienced the Lubys Restaurant Massacre with her handgun in her car, both parents shot dead
http://www.mrctv.org/videos/dr-suzanna-gratia-hupp-talks-about-lubys-r
estaurant-massacre-and-armed-citizenry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_massacre
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Gun Freedumb in Yemen...No permit required..but that country doesn't seem to be doing so well, in an endless islamo Civil War
China calls for calm in Red Sea, political resolution in Yemen
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202505/1334110.shtml
so can China talk, wealth today but thousands killed maybe millions in sacrifice to make their new cyber Chinese society?
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ot all sounded reasonable but then a guy made threats to shoot or kill because you're not voting the correct way, you must only vote for that candidate or else have some terroristic gun threats
rightwing or left wings?
Authorities: Firefighters shot in 'ambush-style' attack while responding to North Idaho wildfire
https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/authorities-firefighters-
shot-in-ambush-style-attack-while-responding-to-north-idaho-wildfire/article_11275adf-634a-4df1-9116-31b0ca1f0dfb.html
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