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Friday, February 14, 2025 3:41 PM

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I picked farming and farmers to make a point that a Signym can't understand about employment and purchases by consumers. because it skirts around the manufacturing story
Fixed it for you.

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Signym, you don't understand manufacturing. Nor farming. You don't even understand that the Kissinger quote you have been misusing for years from you signature is NOT quoting the real Kissinger, but instead is an imaginary version of "Kissinger". You won't understand this, either, but it gets to the heart of what is wrong with Trump/Musk/JDVance/run-of-the-mill-Trumptards:

Trump Appointee Quits Instead of Dropping Eric Adams Charges, Alleges Quid Pro Quo

Adams was indicted on on bribery, wire fraud, and conspiracy charges in September

February 13, 2025

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/eric-adams-trump-p
rosecutor-quits-quid-pro-quo-1235267302
/

After New York City Mayor Eric Adams was indicted on federal criminal charges in September, the man soon embraced Donald Trump in an overt attempt to get the president to overturn his case. As Manhattan federal prosecutors readied to bring the bombshell indictment charging the mayor with destroying evidence and instructing people to lie to the FBI, Trump’s Justice Department issued an order to drop the case, a letter obtained by The New York Times reveals.

Written by U.S. Attorney Danielle R. Sassoon, who was appointed by Trump, and addressed to Attorney General Pam Bondi, the letter states that Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove’s order to dismiss the case on Monday was “inconsistent with my ability and duty to prosecute federal crimes without fear or favor and to advance good-faith arguments before the courts.”

In Bove’s memo, the acting deputy attorney general ordered Adams’ case to be dropped so the mayor could “devote [his] full attention and resources to the illegal immigration and violent crime that escalated under the policies of the prior administration.”

Rather than obey the order, Sassoon resigned from her post on Thursday. “I have always considered it my obligation to pursue justice impartially, without favor to the wealthy or those who occupy important public office, or harsher treatment for the less powerful,” she said. “I therefore deem it necessary to the faithful discharge of my duties to raise the concerns expressed in this letter with you and to request an opportunity to meet to discuss them further.”

Sassoon wrote that she recently attended a meeting with her staff, Bove, and lawyers for Adams. There, she said, Adams’ legal team “repeatedly urged what amounted to a quid pro quo, indicating that Adams would be in a position to assist with the Department’s enforcement priorities only if the indictment were dismissed.”

She criticized the “rushed and superficial process” that led to Bove’s order, and noted her office had been “prepared to seek a superseding indictment” against the New York mayor that “would add an obstruction conspiracy count based on evidence that Adams destroyed and instructed others to destroy evidence and provide false information to the FBI, and that would add further factual allegations regarding his participation in a fraudulent straw donor scheme.”

According to the Times, the Justice Department attempted to move the case to Washington’s public integrity section, but the two men that led the unit overseeing corruption cases also resigned.

Last year, authorities searched the home of the mayor’s chief fundraiser and seized Adams’ electronic devices in connection to an investigation into allegations that the mayor’s 2021 campaign laundered illegal donations from foreign governments. The following fall, federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York indicted the mayor on bribery, wire fraud, and conspir

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Friday, February 14, 2025 4:11 PM

“Five inspector generals that were looking into Elon Musk’s companies were fired by the Trump-Musk administration,” said Texas Representative Greg Casar. “These inspector generals, who are independent, protected by law; they are the people that find the waste, fraud, and abuse … fired because they were looking into Elon Musk.”

“You know what Elon Musk doesn’t seem to be looking into?” Casar continued. “His own contracts.”

“Just last year, Elon Musk was promised $3 billion from close to 100 contracts with the federal government,” Casar said, highlighting the discrepancy that seniors who rely on Social Security are dependent upon $65 a day from the government. “We’re not looking into Elon Musk’s $8 million a day. This subcommittee chaired by Marjorie Taylor Greene and the House Republicans is looking into your grandmother’s $65 a day.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/191464/democrats-doge-hearing-elon-musk-r
oast


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 14, 2025 5:06 PM

"It depresses the hell out of me that people I grew up with or I am related to have turned into people that I wouldn't tell where Anne Frank was hiding."

Yes, It Is Just Like The Nazis

Hey so remember Anne Frank? The Jewish young girl who hid in an attic and was killed by the Nazis? The emblematic person we think of when we think of victims of the Holocaust?

She did not die in a gas chamber or in a death camp. She died in a ‘temporary’ detention center for the mass deportations which preceded the death camps. She was in that camp because a patriotic neighbor ratted her out to the German deportation force. She died, not of a bullet to the back of the head or choking on gas, but of typhus. She contracted typhus because the Nazis couldn’t realistically deport people at the rate they wanted to, because before the death camps their infrastructure couldn’t handle the sudden influx of ethnic minorities they had decided to imprison, and because they didn't care about the consequences of that so their deportation detention centers were unhygienic and prisoners were underfed and overcrowded.

And she was picked up by the deportation force not because she was an illegal citizen but because, just like the US is doing with asylum seekers, she was part of a formerly recognized class of citizens who were legally redefined to lack citizenship by a new administration.

Anne Frank is exactly like the children who have already died in the United State's detention camps. Exactly. Down to the very last detail. There. Is. Not. A. Single. Difference.

So unless you want to tell me that Anne Frank was not a victim of the Holocaust, y’all can shut up with that “stop making concentration camp comparisons, you're diminishing the suffering of the Holocaust" bullshit.

It’s also worth noting that her family TRIED to flee to the US and was denied. She was in that camp partly because the US refused to let her refugee family immigrate.

https://thethrillofcompletewrongness.tumblr.com/post/186386484012/yes-
it-is-just-like-the-nazis


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 14, 2025 10:44 PM

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“Five inspector generals that were looking into Elon Musk’s companies were fired by the Trump-Musk administration,” said Texas Representative Greg Casar. “These inspector generals, who are independent, protected by law; they are the people that find the waste, fraud, and abuse … fired because they were looking into Elon Musk.”

“You know what Elon Musk doesn’t seem to be looking into?” Casar continued. “His own contracts.”

“Just last year, Elon Musk was promised $3 billion from close to 100 contracts with the federal government,” Casar said, highlighting the discrepancy that seniors who rely on Social Security are dependent upon $65 a day from the government. “We’re not looking into Elon Musk’s $8 million a day. This subcommittee chaired by Marjorie Taylor Greene and the House Republicans is looking into your grandmother’s $65 a day.”




Thanks to Newsweek, we have context for the incident:

https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-throws-donald-trumps-s
ocial-security-pledge-floor-2002796




You're a fucking lemming.

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Friday, February 14, 2025 10:45 PM

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"It depresses the hell out of me that people I grew up with or I am related to have turned into people that I wouldn't tell where Anne Frank was hiding."

Yes, It Is Just Like The Nazis

Hey so remember Anne Frank?



Shut the fuck up.

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Friday, February 14, 2025 11:16 PM

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Shut the fuck up.

The president was asked during a press conference if he would direct agencies to study the impact these tariffs would have on prices in the U.S.

“No, there’s nothing to study,” Trump replied. “It’s gonna go well.”

“The United States is going to become a very very strong economic, economically, country,” he added.

It was reminiscent of his repeated claims in 2020 that COVID-19 was just “going to go away.”

Trump’s government won’t study anything, they will just tell us everything is going great.
‘1984’ is upon us.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-tariffs-nothing-to-study_n_67af1c
13e4b0513a8d76bc1a


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 15, 2025 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Shut the fuck up.

The president was asked during a press conference if he would direct agencies to study the impact these tariffs would have on prices in the U.S.

“No, there’s nothing to study,” Trump replied. “It’s gonna go well.”

“The United States is going to become a very very strong economic, economically, country,” he added.

It was reminiscent of his repeated claims in 2020 that COVID-19 was just “going to go away.”



Oh yeah?

I feel it was reminiscent of your claims, in which Covid wasn't released by a Chinese lab doing gain of function research that Democrats were paying for with US Taxpayer dollars.




Nobody is listening to you anymore, stupid.

The world you thought you were living in 6 months ago doesn't exist.

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Saturday, February 15, 2025 12:56 AM

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I picked farming and farmers to make a point that a Signym can't understand about employment and purchases by consumers. because it skirts around the manufacturing story
Fixed it for you.


Signym, you don't understand manufacturing. Nor farming...



It's a waste of time exchanging barbs with a halfwit.

Here is where your logic goes haywire

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The point is that food became abundant and cheap (see the word cheap) when the labor input approached zero. The same is true for the manufacturing of any item. To make the item cheap enough to satisfy the most gluttonous consumer means the labor input to make the item has to approach zero.


Follow your logic to its conclusion: By eliminating labor from everything - services and intellectual work as well as farming and manufacturing... you have made it cheap to produce everything (in reality, the cost of production goes to zero, but the capitalist will never give away anything for free). But at that point, nobody has any money to buy.

So, aside from increasing profits for the owners, how does reducing labor benefit everyone else?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Saturday, February 15, 2025 2:07 AM

Unless we've already invented Star Trek replicators, Second doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about, as per usual.

There's a lot of labor that goes into everything he buys. A lot of it slave labor.

You can't have an honest conversation with somebody who thinks that electricity from your wall is Harry Potter magic.

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Saturday, February 15, 2025 2:18 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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I picked farming and farmers to make a point that a Signym can't understand about employment and purchases by consumers. because it skirts around the manufacturing story
Fixed it for you.


Signym, you don't understand manufacturing. Nor farming...



It's a waste of time exchanging barbs with a halfwit.

Here is where your logic goes haywire

Quote:

The point is that food became abundant and cheap (see the word cheap) when the labor input approached zero. The same is true for the manufacturing of any item. To make the item cheap enough to satisfy the most gluttonous consumer means the labor input to make the item has to approach zero.


Follow your logic to its conclusion: By eliminating labor from everything - services and intellectual work as well as farming and manufacturing... you have made it cheap to produce everything (in reality, the cost of production goes to zero, but the capitalist will never give away anything for free). But at that point, nobody has any money to buy.

So, aside from increasing profits for the owners, how does reducing labor benefit everyone else?

Signym, if you don't know that the argument you're making is bogus, God help you.

Signym, tell me if you can see where this is going? In 1950, West Virginia had 127,000 coal miners. However, by the end of the 20th century, that number had dropped to fewer than 18,000. In 2022, West Virginia had 10,000 working at coal mines, both miners and other jobs including clerks etc. Nationwide there were 43,000 working all jobs at coal mines.

Signym, I’m pretty sure you remember that Trump promised to bring back coal-mining jobs when he was running in 2016. That didn’t happen because mining engineering was getting very effective at reducing the number of man-hours almost to zero to produce a ton of coal.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Trump+promised+to+bring+back+coal-mini
ng+jobs


Signym, a lot of people in West Virginia voted for Trump because he promised to bring back those coal mining jobs West Virginians missed. But those jobs were terrible back in the day when employment was at its highest:



Nostalgia for lost jobs in godawful industries is a thing with Trumptards. I am nostalgic for the days when my Father and I both worked at Burger King, but there are better jobs out there. I am glad I did not stay working in fast food for my entire career.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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