Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers
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UPDATED: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 01:06
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I just now realized that Disney almost had the Top 3 movies worldwide in 2024.
Moana 2 just crossed $800 Million yesterday, and managed $4 Million on Monday. Christmas break appears to be very kind to Moana, since it looked like Moana was due for its first sub-Million day this week. We'll have to see what happens on Thursday.
Moana 2 needs $165 Million to take 3rd place from Despicable Me 4.
All of the sudden I find myself rooting for Wicked.
Also note, Mufasa is currently in 42nd place for 2024. I would not be surprised if it doesn't manage to crack the Top 15. It might not even crack the Top 20.
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Gladiator II finally passing $400M global
that sounds like profit on any normal movie
however... a lot of talk about how much it cost
https://web.archive.org/web/20240223182445/https://www.hollywoodreport
er.com/news/general-news/ridley-scott-gladiator-sequel-production-budget-1235830460/
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Initially budgeted at $165?million, sources say that figure has ballooned to something closer to $310?million. (Paramount insiders insist the net cost of the 49-day shoot was under $250 million.)
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Monday,
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1871672806032962007
1. #SonicMovie3 - $10.0M (unofficial)
2. #Mufasa - $7.08M
3. #WickedMovie - $4.68M
4. #Moana2 - $4.14M
5. #GladiatorII - $1.15M (unofficial)
6. #HomesteadMovie - $884K
7. #KravenTheHunter - $590K (estimate)
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Gladiator II finally passing $400M global
that sounds like profit on any normal movie
however... a lot of talk about how much it cost
https://web.archive.org/web/20240223182445/https://www.hollywoodreport
er.com/news/general-news/ridley-scott-gladiator-sequel-production-budget-1235830460/Quote:
Initially budgeted at $165?million, sources say that figure has ballooned to something closer to $310?million. (Paramount insiders insist the net cost of the 49-day shoot was under $250 million.)
Bruce still hasn't put up the production budget. Normally this is strange for a big budget movie, but I know I noticed this with one or two other blockbusters late this year. In the 2+ years I've been paying attention, it's only the low-budget stuff from places like A24 or Focus Features who don't have a confirmed budget almost immediately. Being 5 weeks into release without a solid production budget number leads me to believe that they're doing whatever they can to hide that info as long as possible, and maybe even move some numbers around to make it look like this wasn't a loss.
At $165 Million, it needs $412.5 Million to break even, and it will do that easily by the end of the weekend. It still won't make anybody much money, but there won't be any losers.
At $250 Million, it needs $625 Million, which it will never get.
At $310 Million, it needs $775 Million to break even and is going to lose around $300 Million for Paramount.
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Film reviewer Roger Ebert wrote this in 1990:
"When I go to the movies, one of my strongest desires is to be shown something new. I want to go to new places, meet new people, have new experiences. When I see Hollywood formulas mindlessly repeated, a little something dies inside of me: I have lost two hours to boors who insist on telling me stories I have heard before."
https://collider.com/best-horror-movies-of-all-time-roger-ebert/
Why is Hollywood doing poorly? It is an old problem, but audiences get harder to please as they get more familiar with the products Hollywood routinely produces. Many movies were already tediously unsatisfying in 1990.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I don't disagree. I barely watch any of it and stopped watching most of it before woke was even in the public lexicon.
This is probably the problem that let Woke in, in the first place. I've said that many times before.
Like, how could you ruin Terminator with Dark Destiny when you already ruined it with T3 and a few other non-woke bad movies? How could you ruin Indiana Jones with Dial of Destiny when you already ruined Indiana Jones with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? If a woke Matrix came out (maybe it did with the 4th one, i dunno) I'd be saying the same thing and asking how can you ruin the Matrix when you already ruined it with the 2nd and 3rd movies?
Hollywood had plenty of creativity problems because the model is fucked. They stopped taking any chances by the mid-90's and remade everything that was even just a little bit popular from the past. (Does anybody remember The Mod Squad movie? No? I didn't think so.)
So I dunno... After 20 or so years of being stagnant yet still making boatloads of cash to make them continue to stagnate because that's the best for the bottom line, they decided to take wild chances and cram every unpopular idea into everything they made for 5 years straight and now nobody wants to go and see practically anything they do anymore.
I wish them luck. It seems like they finally got the message about the woke bullshit and that won't be a factor anymore... at least not now. But they still have some major underlying creativity issues that they need to figure out if they're going to get back to making money consistently.
My biggest advice is what it always has been. Kill those budgets. At most, there should only be one or two or maybe even 3 movies in a single year that cost over $100 Million to make. These should be MAJOR EVENTS that all make a lot of money. All of the rest of the movies should be somewhere around $50 Million to make at maximum.
And even if you do all that there's still work to be done shaving down the budgets.
Japan can put out that awesome looking Godzilla flick on a $15 Million budget, yet Gladiator II cost over $300 Million to make?
Shameful.
P.S. Need a place to start when shaving those budgets? Start with the actor's salary. Nobody should be making more than a million bucks to star in a movie. Most of them are going to run out of money like Harrison Ford no matter how much you give them anyhow. I'm sure they'll be just fine if they get a pay cut.
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I might watch Kraven, I think Sony put the first 10 mins online for free and from what few mins I seen for free its not terrible it actually looks like entertainment but it flopped bad.
Form what I seen of the film it did not deserve Madame Web numbers
but they didn't advertise it like Beatlejuice or Twisters also failed, how to market? and if they had at least built up the comicbook character like 'Venom' it could have been an ok action film.
China might stay in the global top10?
Sony's Kraven the Hunter grossed an estimated $685K on Christmas Day
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1872331928277487772
Worldwide, Disney's MUFASA roared with $33.5M on Christmas Day, and will cross $200M later today
https://x.com/ercboxoffice/status/1872318769462448293
the year seems over
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Iron-Ma
n-3/Gladiator-II-(2024)/Mufasa-The-Lion-King-(2024)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
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Yeah... Pretty confident that YOLO is going to fall at number 10 on the Top 10 this year.
Really though, not a bad result for Hollywood at all considering how bad most of 2024 was once you journey too far out of the Top 10. Beetlejuice 2 obviously made money at number 14, but Gladiator 2 might have lost over $300 Million depending on the actual budget, and it's sitting at number 15. I'm not saying that all the movies under Gladiator 2 were a failure, but just stating that you don't have to go too far out of the Top 10 to find a major multi-hundred-million-loss because of these stupid production budgets is all.
Interesting note on Kraven, Jaynez. I haven't even heard anybody say "awwww... it's not that bad" simply because I think even most of the YouTubers that would have usually gone to see this also skipped it entirely too.
Shame for the main actor if his movie flops and it wasn't that bad, but I'm still probably not going to watch it unless you have some real high praise for it when you're done.
Who knows? Maybe Kraven turned into a hidden gem on accident and would have done gangbusters back in 2019.
I know one thing I've always wanted more of in Super Hero movies was interesting, smaller-scale stories that don't always end with a gigantic space laser about to destroy Earth. The kind of movies they made all the time before The Avengers, as well as the mostly-good Netflix Marvel TV shows before Disney ruined all of that. Particularly the amazingly good first season of Jessica Jones.
This is something that SONY has always done from the beginning with their Marvel movies dating back to the late 90's, many times excellently and some of those even without Spider-Man making an appearance. How many SONY Marvel movies can you name where the end of the world was at stake?
I'd guess that half of the Disney Marvel stuff would end with Earth being destroyed if we didn't have super heroes to save us. But on the other end of that I'd say that if Kingpin were terrorizing the people of Hell's Kitchen like he did in the Daredevil series in my reality, I'd probably know nothing more about what was going on in there in real life than any of us currently do about the car-sized drones flying over New Jersey the last month even if both Daredevil and the Punisher failed and were brutally murdered by gang violence.
Maybe Kraven is the white Westley Snipes' Blade?
I actually hope it is now. It would be hilarious if the best comic book movie to come out in the last 5 years was the one nobody went to see.
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By Matthew Yglesias | Dec 26, 2024
Before I sat down to write this post, I was feeling pretty down on 2024 as a movie year.
A couple of big, event-y sequels that I was looking forward to — Gladiator 2 and Furiosa — were both kind of disappointing. The Marvel juggernaut seems to be on some kind of hiatus, and the one big superhero release this year, Deadpool & Wolverine, was dreadful. Last year’s Barbenheimer phenomenon seemed to presage a “we’re so back” moment for mainstream cinema that just never quite materialized. Even in the children’s entertainment zone, we got the “make a bad sequel to a beloved original” treatment with Moana 2, which was so commercially successful that we’re now surely cursed to suffer an endless parade through that expanded universe.
https://www.slowboring.com/p/my-five-favorite-movies-of-2024
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Yeah. The Moana 2 thing is unfortunate.
I hear that may have ripples impacting movie animators in the future too.
It was nothing more than an entire season of a made for Disney+ TV show, created by low-level TV animation employees, and then edited down haphazardly into a barely coherent story.
And it almost made a Billion.
Do you get what I keep telling you now, Second?
Your average person is an idiot. As long as you don't inject their lowbrow idiot entertainment with preaching and agenda bullshit, they'll keep paying to see crap made for idiots.
Hollywood will be fine.
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