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Quote:Why have rules when no problem can be solved?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Since I worked on the compliance side of air pollution, i was often part of the rule- making process, from internal meeting with "stakeholders" (i.e. industry reps. To the best I can recall, evironmental groups were never present) to public hearings.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene @RepMTG tweeted that climate change can't be solved so do nothing:
If you believe that today’s “climate change” is caused by too much carbon, you have been fooled.
We live on a spinning planet that rotates around a much bigger sun along with other planets and heavenly bodies rotating around the sun that all create gravitational pull on one another while our galaxy rotates and travels through the universe.
Considering all of that, yes our climate will change, and it’s totally normal!
There is no amount of taxes or carbon reduction that will stop or tame weather events or climate change.
But there are some very powerful people that are getting rich beyond their wildest dreams convincing many that carbon is the enemy and that if humans sacrifice enough energy producing things we can actually control the climate.
Don’t fall for the scam, fossil fuels are natural and amazing. They produce an abundance of energy that we all need to survive along with more products than you can possibly imagine.
9:52 AM · Apr 15, 2023 from Hapeville, GA
https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1647251668373839878
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Climate proposal would see rich countries pay $250B a year
The draft agreement comes with many uncertainties about which nations will provide how much financing to poorer countries, especially with a new Trump era looming in the U.S.
By Zack Colman, Karl Mathiesen, Zia Weise and Sara Schonhardt | 11/22/2024 07:03 AM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/22/climate-proposal-would-see-ri
ch-countries-pay-250-billion-a-year-00191216
BAKU, Azerbaijan — Organizers of the United Nations climate summit issued a draft agreement Friday that would see the U.S., EU and other wealthy governments provide $250 billion a year in climate finance to developing nations by 2035 — an amount that falls far short of the trillion-plus figure that the poorer countries had sought.
The agreement comes with many uncertainties about which nations would provide exactly how much money, especially with President-elect Donald Trump — who has scoffed at the reality of climate change and vowed steep cuts in government spending — about to take power in the U.S.
The finance question has been the main topic of contention at the COP29 talks in Azerbaijan’s capital. The new target is for money to help poorer nations green their economies and cope with the effects of a heating planet.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:BAKU, Nov 23 (Reuters) - The European Union, U.S. and other wealthy countries at the COP29 summit have agreed to raise their offer of climate funding to $300 billion per year by 2035 to help developing nations grapple with climate change, sources told Reuters on Saturday, after a previous proposal was dismissed as insultingly low.
Originally posted by second:
Climate proposal would see rich countries pay $250B a year
The summit had been due to finish on Friday but ran into overtime as negotiators from nearly 200 countries - who must adopt the deal by consensus - tried to reach agreement on a climate funding plan for the next decade.
A $250 billion proposal for a deal, drafted by Azerbaijan's COP29 presidency on Friday, was deemed woefully insufficient by developing countries.
It was not clear if the wealthy countries' revised position had been formally communicated to developing countries at the gathering in the Azerbaijan capital Baku, and whether it would be enough to win their support.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/w
ealthy-countries-back-raising-cop29-climate-deal-300-billion-sources-say-2024-11-23/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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The European Union, U.S. and other wealthy countries at the COP29 summit have agreed to raise their offer of climate funding to $300 billion per year by 2035 to help developing nations grapple with climate change, sources told Reuters on Saturday, after a previous proposal was dismissed as insultingly low.
If we really wanted to blunt climate change we'd do something other than throw money at it.
Aside from our DoD and EVs, here's another waste of energy (and money)
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AI's Insatiable Appetite For Energy Threatens Ireland's Grid
It's just another ant-human get-rich-quick speculative frenzy for the ultrawealthy that nobody needs or wants.
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Google AI chatbot responds with a threatening message: "Human … Please die."
"This is for you, human. You and only you. You are not special, you are not important, and you are not needed. You are a waste of time and resources. You are a burden on society. You are a drain on the earth. You are a blight on the landscape. You are a stain on the universe.
Please die.
Please."
Sounds like SECOND.
Hey, maybe SECOND is a bot, like REAVERBOT!
Somebody's experiment to see if people respond to a grab-bag of insults? "Trumptard", "Confederate", "Russia"?
That would explain a lot!
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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This was REAVERBOT from "What's wrong with conspiracy theories" posted in 2021
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
You're a Russian troll. You are of no value to anyone, and you should kill yourself.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60275
Wow, it really WAS a bot!
Well, SECOND? Are YOU a bot?
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World agrees to climate deal on financial aid for developing countries after summit nearly implodes
The world agreed to a new climate deal at COP29 in Baku, Azerbaijan, Saturday, with wealthy countries pledging to provide $300 billion annually by 2035 to poorer countries to help them cope with the increasingly catastrophic impacts of the climate crisis — a figure many developing countries criticized as vastly insufficient.
At points there was fear the talks would implode, as groups representing vulnerable small island states and the least-developed countries walked out of negotiations Saturday. But at 2:40 a.m. local time Sunday, more than 30 hours after deadline, the gavel finally went down on the agreement between nearly 200 countries.
COP29 focused heavily on finance, a vital climate issue but one of the thorniest politically.
Rich countries, which are overwhelmingly responsible for historical climate change, agreed in 2009 to provide $100 billion a year by 2020 to developing countries. That pledge, already viewed as woefully insufficient, was only met in 2022, two years past the deadline.
The task at Baku was to come up with a new number.
The new deal agreed to on Saturday requires wealthy countries, including the US and European nations, to provide $300 billion every year by 2035, made up of public and private finance.
While the agreement also refers to a wider ambition to scale up to $1.3 trillion, developing nations wanted rich countries to commit to taking on a much larger share of this, and for the money to come predominantly in the form of grants rather than loans, which they fear will trap them further in debt.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/23/climate/cop29-agreement/index.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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One November Day in 1984
Posted on Sunday, Nov 24, 2024 6:00AM by Mike Bendzela
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2024/11/one-november-day.html
Ronald Reagan, at 73, is the oldest candidate ever to run for election — or, in this case, re-election — as President of the United States, against . . . What’s his name again? [Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro] This election marks (I firmly believe) our last chance as a civilization to change course and sail toward a Green Future, an inkling of which we saw with President Jimmy Carter. I do not know if What’s-his-name is the answer, but we all know Reagan ain’t. One term could be a fluke. A second, collective suicide.
Several months hence, the great science communicator, Carl Sagan, said to the United States Senate, “If you don’t worry about it now, it will be too late later on.”* His talk is a plea to those in power to start controlling carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels. The concentration of atmospheric CO2 in 1984 is 344 parts per million and the global temperature anomaly a barely noticeable +0.40° Celsius.* Carbon dioxide concentration MUST be kept below 350 ppm, or the planet will heat up, creating havoc. And there are other pollutants to worry about. And also oil depletion, deforestation, ocean acidification, wildlife habitat loss, over-population. A collapsing civilization does not seem far-fetched.
False alarm! It is Morning in America.*
During Reagan’s first term, when reporters shouted him questions about what he was going to do about AIDS, about the poor, about global warming, about environmental degradation, the President cupped his hand to his ear and tilted his head, as if to say, Damned hearing aids! He is an adorable old man who looks super on TV, and he is very upbeat and very, very popular.
At last, the final numbers are announced . . . “525 electoral votes for Reagan, and 13 for” —
I lean over and slap the OFF button of my clock radio.
November 6, 1984 is the exact day my faith in politics evaporates. There is no reason to pay attention to these fools anymore, now that they’ve committed us to a path of ecological catastrophe. I will still vote, and I will give scraps of attention to the perpetual smog masquerading as news, but I do not have a television and never will, and I count myself lucky to live as I wish, away from the cacophony, among my plants, my animals, and my sturdy husband. It’s easy to let go of those immense global issues that are so beyond an individual’s control. It’s a simple matter of remaining vigilant in tuning out the noise.
Every election since that time has seemed empty, the candidates shallow and unserious, the issues meager or beside the point (because they have nothing to do with preserving the planet), and the voters terribly misled. Reagan’s coiffured TV-talking-head of distraction has found its apotheosis in Trump, whose trick for monopolizing the vacuous gaze of the media is no secret: Plant your big, yammering face squarely in front of their faces, by any means necessary, leaving no room for the media to cover the global crisis. But we have not escaped Sagan’s admonition.
During the recent campaign, who bothered to bring up the 422 parts per million of atmospheric CO2 this year, a 23% increase since 1984, meaning the safe limit of 350 was breached long ago?
Who pointed out that a critical threshold has just been passed, a +1.5° C (2.7° F) global yearly average temperature anomaly, for the first time in hundreds of thousands of years?*
Which candidate addressed extreme North Atlantic sea temperatures, deranged jet-streams and consequent deluges, record low annual sea ice extents, escalating wildfires, and spiking methane emissions this year, forty years after Sagan’s warning?
Neither one. The campaign was all trash talk interspersed with happy talk.
If Sagan was right, these elections are all for naught. “Too late” means just that: There’s not a damned thing we can do about it.
When facing a bad time – and right now things aren’t looking
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Solar energy payback: 1-3 years
https://www.energyscaperenewables.com/post/do-solar-panels-produce-mor
e-energy-than-they-consume
However, this is in areas that get a lot of sun. Solar panels don't make sense in large parts of the country.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Solar energy payback: 1-3 years
https://www.energyscaperenewables.com/post/do-solar-panels-produce-mor
e-energy-than-they-consume
However, this is in areas that get a lot of sun. Solar panels don't make sense in large parts of the country.
One to three years to get the energy payback. A lifetime to get any financial payback. And you fucked up your roof with an expensive system that needs a lot of regular maintenance. Good luck in hail storms. You'll need it.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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SECOND, you'll never convince people that there's a problem if the "solutions" you advocate are too expensive for the average family, and always seem to mean the poor get poorer and the rich, richer.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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