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Thursday, October 3, 2024 2:51 AM

The science of prophecy

By Joel Eissenberg | October 1, 2024 8:49 am

https://angrybearblog.com/2024/10/the-science-of-prophecy

The existential threat to humanity in this century is climate change. It is estimated that upwards of half a billion people will be displaced by flooding, fires and desertification due to global warming.

But such frightening predictions are based on climate modeling. How reliable are these models? It turns out, remarkably reliable:

“Climate change doubters have a favorite target: climate models. They claim that computer simulations conducted decades ago didn’t accurately predict current warming, so the public should be wary of the predictive power of newer models. Now, the most sweeping evaluation of these older models—some half a century old—shows most of them were indeed accurate.”

*snip*

“The researchers compared annual average surface temperatures across the globe to the surface temperatures predicted in 17 forecasts. Those predictions were drawn from 14 separate computer models released between 1970 and 2001. In some cases, the studies and their computer codes were so old that the team had to extract data published in papers, using special software to gauge the exact numbers represented by points on a printed graph.

“Most of the models accurately predicted recent global surface temperatures, which have risen approximately 0.9°C since 1970. For 10 forecasts, there was no statistically significant difference between their output and historic observations, the team reports today in Geophysical Research Letters.”

Much more at: Even 50-year-old climate models correctly predicted global warming

Study debunks idea that older models were inaccurate

By Warren Cornwall | 4 Dec 2019

https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-model
s-correctly-predicted-global-warming


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, October 3, 2024 3:13 AM

Bill Nye the Bachelor's Degree Guy & Science Fetishization



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

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Monday, October 7, 2024 4:19 PM

Before Hurricane Helene, A Perfect Storm Of Climate Denialism

North Carolina was once a climate leader, but more than a decade of Republican and corporate obstruction left the state ill-prepared for the historic disaster.

In the years before Hurricane Helene ravaged North Carolina last week, the state’s Republican lawmakers and corporate interests continually fought climate adaptation and mitigation measures that could have helped communities withstand the storm’s tidal surge, hurricane-force winds, and widespread flooding.

While North Carolina was once a national leader in renewable energy and climate change resiliency policies, that changed in the early 2010s when Republicans secured control of both chambers of the state’s legislature and a former utility company executive moved into the governor’s mansion. Since then, GOP politicians and their big-business allies have sabotaged climate resiliency projects, delayed plans to embrace renewable energy, and stonewalled efforts to prepare the state for stronger storms and a rising sea.

More at https://www.levernews.com/before-hurricane-helene-a-perfect-storm-of-c
limate-denialism
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 7, 2024 4:21 PM

Believe Me, Climate Change is a Chinese Hoax -- Trump

An editorial in The Charlotte Observer:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article293483114.html

Western North Carolina is trying to pick up the pieces left behind by Hurricane Helene, which decimated the region, leaving communities destroyed and a death toll in the triple digits.

This is not a situation to capitalize on for political gain. But former President Donald Trump has politicized the situation at every turn, spreading falsehoods and conspiracies that fracture the community instead of bringing it together.

The worst example is a social media post Trump made on Monday, in which he accused the federal government and Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper of “going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas. MAGA!” That same day, Trump also posted that the Biden administration has “left Americans to drown” in North Carolina and other states.

Then, in an interview with his former adviser Kellyanne Conway, Trump doubled down on his claim, saying the government is “going out of their way to hurt” Trump voters in Western North Carolina.

“They’re not getting water, they’re not getting anything,” Trump said.

Trump has also said that Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp couldn’t get President Joe Biden on the phone to help his state with hurricane relief — a claim that Kemp himself debunked — and falsely claimed that the government doesn’t have enough money to respond to the disaster because “Kamala spent all her FEMA money, billions of dollars, on housing for illegal migrants.” He’s called it “the worst response in the history of hurricanes” and suggested it would be the Biden administration’s own Hurricane Katrina.

There’s no evidence to support any of those ridiculous claims. And by every indication, state and federal agencies have been working to help people in need. They’ve been airlifting food and other supplies to affected areas. Helping families get information about missing loved ones. Providing monetary assistance to folks whose homes were destroyed. Working to clear and repair roads and get critical infrastructure back up and running.

It may not be enough, because this is one of the worst disasters our state has ever seen. It will take months and years to rebuild, and we still won’t be able to recover everything that was lost. But the people of North Carolina have not been left out to dry. Their government has not abandoned them. The Republican governors of Georgia and South Carolina have expressed satisfaction with the federal response.

Trump knows that. So does Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, who accused Cooper and Biden of not doing enough to prepare for and respond to the storm. Robinson has used the tragedy for photo ops and posts on social media and predicted he will be called a “hero” for his efforts to help victims, despite the fact that he missed a key vote to declare a state of emergency in preparation for the storm. Trump’s claims are as hypocritical as they are harmful. POLITICO’s E&E News reported this week that, as president, Trump could be “flagrantly partisan” in times of disaster and “on at least three occasions hesitated to give disaster aid to areas he considered politically hostile or ordered special treatment for pro-Trump states.” According to the report, Trump was hesitant to send disaster aid when California was ravaged by wildfires in 2018 until he learned the affected part of the state was saturated with Trump voters.

Let’s be clear: Western North Carolina is not a political football. This is not a campaign opportunity. The most unhelpful thing any politician — or anyone else — can do right now is spread misinformation and tell people that their government isn’t doing anything to help them.

Sowing the seeds of political division is always an unnecessary and tiresome endeavor. But doing so in times of great need, when unity is paramount, is particularly shameful.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https:

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Tuesday, October 8, 2024 4:30 AM

In a survey, 90% of Floridians said they believe that climate change is happening.
But less than half of all respondents (48%) said they would be willing to pay $10 a month to strengthen Florida’s infrastructure to weather hazards.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/climate-resilience-survey

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 8, 2024 5:34 PM

Who’s Taking Out the Ashes?

By Monte Davis | Tuesday, Oct 8, 2024 5:00AM

https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2024/10/whos-taking-out-the-ashe
s.html


Fossil fuels aren’t pure carbon, of course, and combustion rarely burns every bit of what there is, so the emission ratio varies. Coal typically yields 2.1 times its mass in CO2; firewood, 1.6 to 1.8 times; gasoline, 2.3 times; natural gas, about 2.8 times.

Picture Georgia Power’s 3.5-gigawatt Plant Scherer, near Macon, the largest coal-fired power plant in the US. It came on line in the 1980s, and at peak output required up to five trains a day, 100 coal cars or more long, from the Powder River basin in Wyoming. In 2018 it burned on the order of 9 million tons of coal, with CO2 emissions of 20 million tons.

Now, picture that 20 million tons of CO2 not drifting invisibly away from the smokestacks, but being dealt with: Stored in a giant tank farm. Pumped into pipelines or long trains of tank cars. At the end of its journey, forced down large numbers of dedicated shafts by powerful pumps. And that is what’s going to happen to nearly all of it, because while there is a market for CO2 in industrial processes, it’s trivial compared to supply on this scale. So nearly all that new investment and operating cost is economic dead weight: 20 million tons of former “externality” turned into the utility’s red ink. Even if coal-fired generation weren’t already under a lot of pressure from cheaper oil and gas, its economics can’t possibly survive that burden.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 8, 2024 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Believe Me, Climate Change is a Chinese Hoax -- Trump

Another one of those policies where Trump and I part ways. It's too bad that the one Presidential candidate who has a record of caring about America... as opposed to caring about transnationals and financialists ... also happens to be blowhard salesman with ADHD.

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An editorial in The Charlotte Observer:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article293483114.html

Western North Carolina is trying to pick up the pieces left behind by Hurricane Helene, which decimated the region, leaving communities destroyed and a death toll in the triple digits.

This is not a situation to capitalize on for political gain.

Dood. EVERY crisis, real, imagined, or something in between, has been turned by the DNC and deep state in an oppty for more power. "Never let a good crisis go to waste" ring any bells?

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But former President Donald Trump has politicized the situation at every turn, spreading falsehoods and conspiracies that fracture the community instead of bringing it together.
Which means .... what, exactly? Does this hamper rescue and aid efforts? The WH's best publicity is an effective, coordinated effort.

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The worst example is a social media post Trump made on Monday, in which he accused the federal government and Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper of “going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas. MAGA!” That same day, Trump also posted that the Biden administration has “left Americans to drown” in North Carolina and other states.

Then, in an interview with his former adviser Kellyanne Conway, Trump doubled down on his claim, saying the government is “going out of their way to hurt” Trump voters in Western North Carolina.

“They’re not getting water, they’re not getting anything,” Trump said.and

which is true. So, why aren't they?

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Trump has also said that Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp couldn’t get President Joe Biden on the phone to help his state with hurricane relief — a claim that Kemp himself debunked — and falsely claimed that the government doesn’t have enough money to respond to the disaster because “Kamala spent all her FEMA money, billions of dollars, on housing for illegal migrants.” He’s called it “the worst response in the history of hurricanes” and suggested it would be the Biden administration’s own Hurricane Katrina.
I dont know if it's the worst response, but it's certainly not very good.

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There’s no evidence to support any of those ridiculous claims.
there's evidence that FEMA'S response is flat footed, somewhere between dysfunctional and counterproductive.

If FEMA is doing such a great job, why aren't we hearing about it? Its ok to take credit for a job well done!

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And by every indication, state and federal agencies have been "working to help" people in need. They’ve been airlifting food and other supplies to affected areas. Helping families get information about missing loved ones. Providing monetary assistance to folks whose homes were destroyed. Working to clear and repair roads and get critical infrastructure back up and running.
Well, by gosh! It's good to know they've been "working on it"!

Any metrics as to how they're doing? Timelines? Areas assisted and areas remaining?


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It may not be enough,...


Apparently it isn't.

But the WH, and Congress, would rather send a few hundred billion to Ukraine and a few more billion to Israel, instead of preparing for disaster.

The main point is that WH's and Congress' priorities are fucked up, and someone should un-fuck them.
Looks like a case of AMERICA LAST.

MAGA.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Wednesday, October 9, 2024 4:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Believe Me, Climate Change is a Chinese Hoax -- Trump

Another one of those policies where Trump and I part ways. It's too bad that the one Presidential candidate who has a record of caring about America... as opposed to caring about transnationals and financialists ... also happens to be blowhard salesman with ADHD.

Before Trump came along, every Republican I knew in the hydrocarbon industry was saying anthropogenic climate change is fake, will always be bogus, and can never be the truth. To be a leader of the GOP, Trump has to follow the wisdom of the mob he is nominally leader of. Therefore: Climate Change is a Hoax. For Trump to take a different direction than the mob is heading would be as absurd as Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederacy, worrying about the plight of slaves and calling for emancipation. The Confederates would have abandoned Jeff. The oil & gas executives would abandon Trump if he changes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, October 9, 2024 9:28 AM

Better to have a President who cares about America, no matter how mistakenly, than a President who would sell us down river.

We can always correct mistakes. It's much harder to fix deliberate corruption.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Thursday, October 10, 2024 11:27 AM

Some are saying that with Hurricanes Helene and Milton as October Surprise in Election Year, Geo Tech is becoming too obvious.

But I've been hearing The Ministry of Truth openly scoff at and denounce Geo Tech and Agro Tech, even amidst Helene and Milton.

But apparently Monsanto Bayer (big investor: Billy boy Gates) is making gobs of $$ from their Weather Insurance Department right now. Must be coincidence.

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