Elections; 2024
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As of 7:20 PM, the NYT live forecast is saying the electoral college will be Trump 276 and Harris 262.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-pr
esident.html
You wish it looked that good for you in the end.
We're just getting started.
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I'm calling the race now.
Trump wins. 
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Quote:I'm calling it now: Trump gets two in head, one in the heart. Thanks, Biden!
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm calling the race now.
Trump wins.
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Trump will be fine.
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‘I Think We’re in Trouble’: Is There a Future for MAGA After Trump?
Trump could be reelected. But what happens to his movement after that?
By David Siders | 11/04/2024 05:00 AM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/04/maga-trump-2024-elec
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TEMPE, Arizona — The tailgate was aimed at boosting a protégé, but it was Donald Trump whose name and image were plastered everywhere — on the banner hung from Republicans’ table outside the Arizona State University football game, on baseball caps, on signs they carried and stickers they fixed to tank-tops on a Friday night where the pavement was still hot and the temperature, at dusk, hovered around 95 degrees.
They might have turned out to support the protégé, Kari Lake, but it was his movement — Trump’s — that the tailgaters were starting to worry about.
What would become of MAGA when Trump — either in four years if he wins the presidency again or sooner if he loses — is gone? Could someone else replace him?
“I’ve often wondered that,” said Terri Seiber, who sat beside me on the curb in front of two porta potties, a Trump-Vance yard sign in the dark beside her. “We don’t have anybody in the Republican Party who’s even close.”
Not Lake, she said. “No, I don’t think so.” Seiber had seen her collapse in the gubernatorial race two years ago and knew she was running behind her Democratic opponent in the Senate contest, now, too.
Not JD Vance, Trump’s running mate. “No. He sounds like a real great guy. But Trump, he’s just got that oomph about him.”
Who else?
“It does make me worry,” she told me. “The movement is mostly him.”
I’d come to Arizona to ask not about the presidential contest that culminates Tuesday but about what will happen after that, about the post-Trump future of MAGA. If Republicans anywhere have an answer, it should be here. For all its history of electing iconoclasts — politicians like Barry Goldwater and John McCain, but also Kyrsten Sinema and Jeff Flake — Arizona has also seen them run their course.
In the MAGA era, there are few states where Republicans have remade themselves so completely in service to the cause. Arizona was the site, not far from Lake’s tailgate, of the farcical “audit” of the 2020 election and provided a border-state backdrop for Trump’s nativist, anti-migrant rhetoric. Republicans elevated hard-liners at every level in their primaries and paid an uncommonly high price, losing both Senate seats and, in 2020, flipping Democratic in a presidential race for the first time since 1996. In the midterms two years later, Lake lost the gubernatorial race, as did Republicans running for U.S. Senate, state attorney general and secretary of state.
Along the way, the state GOP, in going full fringe, produced one of the most vivid demonstrations anywhere of the singularity of Trump’s appeal. While the former president is leading Vice President Kamala Harris here narrowly in recent polls, Lake, once one of the MAGA movement’s most promising rising stars, has been all but written off, running about 4 percentage points behind Rep. Ruben Gallego, the Democratic nominee.
Acknowledging things for Lake were “getting kind of grim,” Alex Stansberry, the vice president of the College Republicans at ASU, put the problem succinctly: “The only person who’s been able to win on the MAGA platform is Trump.”
More at https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/04/maga-trump-2024-elec
tions-00185283
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Florida Abortion Amendment Falls Short Following Aggressive Opposition by Ron DeSantis
The governor waged an unprecedented campaign to block Amendment 4, which needed 60 percent support to pass.
A clear majority of voters backed the effort, but it fell short of the 60 percent threshold it needed to pass.
Addressing supporters just after 9 p.m., organizers with the Yes on 4! coalition struck a triumphant tone, emphasizing the 57 percent support the measure received. The results sent a clear message to legislators that the state’s abortion ban is too extreme, an organizer said.
The amendment, which made its way onto the ballot with the support of 1 million Floridians, would have effectively invalidated the state’s six-week abortion ban. The state’s law, which DeSantis pushed through, effectively outlaws all abortions, because people often don’t yet know they are pregnant at the six-week mark.
https://theintercept.com/2024/11/05/florida-amendment-4-abortion-elect
ion-results/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I'm calling it now: Trump gets two in head, one in the heart. Thanks, Biden!
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm calling the race now.
Trump wins.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
You've been wrong about everything else.
Guess we'll find out now, huh?

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8:52 PM: NYT predicts 282 electoral votes for Trump, 252 for Harris.
95% of the Florida vote is in and Trump is still up 13 points.
NYT is saying that both Georgia and North Carolina "Lean R"
Pennsylvania: 38% of the vote counted, Harris leads Trump 50% to 49%
Virginia: 65% of the vote counted, Trump leads Harris 50% to 48%.
Wisconsin: 34% of the vote counted, Tied 49.2% for both.
Electoral votes per the NYT: 178 Trump / 99 Harris.
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Quote:You won't find out if Biden will pull the trigger three times until January of 2025, close to the inauguration. Until the litigation is finished about who won, Biden doesn't have to make a decision on whether he will be a chicken like President James Buchanan, the guy who decided to let President Lincoln make hard decisions and sort things out because Buchanan was too cowardly and lazy to kill Robert E. Lee and Confederate President Jefferson Davis before the Confederacy was properly launched. Even Lincoln was too magnanimous in victory and where did that end? With Lincoln dead from a bullet in his head while Robert E Lee and Jeff Davis lived on and on. I nearly forgot that with Lincoln dead, the Confederates were able to reestablish a system almost as bad as slavery that would last for another century. This is what happens when you don't kill your enemies.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I'm calling it now: Trump gets two in head, one in the heart. Thanks, Biden!
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm calling the race now.
Trump wins.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
You've been wrong about everything else.
Guess we'll find out now, huh?
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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This is what happens when you don't kill your enemies.
You're assuming they don't kill you first.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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10:25PM:
NYT predicts an 89% likelihood of Trump winning with 302 Electoral College votes to 236 for Harris.
North Carolina called for Trump.
95% of Georgia counted; +3 Trump. NYT says Very Likely Trump.
77% of Pennsylvania counted; +3 Trump. NYT says Leans Trump.
68% of Wisconsin counted; +3 Trump. NYT says Leans Trump.
53% of Arizona counted; +0.13 Trump. NYT says Leans Trump.
36% of Michigan counted; +7 Trump. NYT says Leans Trump.
No votes counted in Nevada yet.
According to Google, Trump currently leads the popular vote by over 5.2 Million votes, and that's with 80% of Illinois counted and 86% of New York already counted.
We know California is going to change that number quite a bit when they start counting, but you should not be over 5 million votes underwater when you include the vast majority of Illinois and New York in that total if you're a Democrat.
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Oh shit...
I didn't even notice that number includes 25% of California, 60% of Oregon and 58% of Washington already too!
Holy holy holy shit.
Is Trump going to win this thing by 3 Million votes? 5 Million?
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