Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers
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So many great directors of the past seem to no longer have it for whatever reason
Robert Zemeckis you expect comedy, action, maybe a fun active kids animation with CGI but 'Here' is something else...
it seems to be the wrong type of film, Robert Zemeckis is expected to bring fun comedy or action fast paced moving scenes or maybe both, but now it sounds like something for an arty modern art theatre show or arthouse yoko ono show...he does or did experiment, he is know for early use of computer graphics when Hollywood tried to ban it and ban movies like 'Tron' from getting Awards so there is that visual pushing the envelope CGI element to his work people might look for.
Robert Zemeckis is he done, over? he started with comedy 'I Wanna Hold Your Hand' maybe even a culture comment on "Beatlemania" for the group's fanatics, then a War Comedy '1941' the plot is loosely based on what has come to be known as the Great Battle of Los Angeles or Los Angeles Air Raid of 1942 with a little War of the World paranoia, race conflict Zoot Suit Riots brawl at a jazz dance bar joint internment camps and wacky Hollywood comedy, another hit Romancing the Stone following a romance novelist a femake writer who must leave NYC to Colombia's South American jungle in order to save and rescue a damsel from criminals.
Hollywood is afraid of itself and won't experiment much on a 'risky' idea? other critics will say it does not entertain and the movie wasn’t good
a self fulfilling prophecy with people telling him it wasn’t marketable and wouldn’t make money also people want certain style of escapism, story and entertainment and are not going to spend their time and money on just any movie now
Here 2024 American drama film its like trying to watch 3 snapchat tikkytok clips on 3 different phones at the same time or watch 3 tv sets at the same time? story triple jumps a non-linear fashion, screen is often sub-divided into multiple panes, presenting events from different time periods simultaneously. They say it had difficult getting backers, Hollywood would not support or advertise and the movie was largely financed by foreign sales
Robert Zemeckis was a big film maker for a while Back to the Future trilogy, The Polar Express and the live-action/animated comedy Who Framed Roger Rabbit ...but...
‘Here’ Misfires With $5M; Robert Zemeckis Says “Theatrical Movie Business Is In A Stressful Situation Right Now”: What Happened With ‘Forrest Gump’ Reteam At B.O.
https://deadline.com/2024/11/here-box-office-bomb-tom-hanks-1236165725/
Budget $45–50 million, Box office $5 million
critical and audience reviews both a very mixed...so some positives
well on another positive they kept the budget Low-ish
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a Low Budget $25 million
Sony's It Ends With Us has passed the $200M international mark.
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32534-it-ends-with-us-2007m-o
verseas-%E2%80%A2-3492m-worldwide/
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Hollywood's big boom has gone bust
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6er83ene6o
Los Angeles Film and TV Production Approaches Historically Low Levels
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/los-angeles-film-tv-production-190
001365.html
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so Chinese langauge movies continue to stay in the Top 10 with China giving Hollyweird a challenge
South Korea, Japan or other indie products from Latin America, European film might also get money but China is the big guy
We have
Inside Out2
Deadpool Wolverine
Dune2
Despicable Me 4
but A LOT of flops from Hollywood
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Yeah.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2024
Up until about a month or two ago I thought for sure Joker 2 was going to make half a billion even if it was terrible and knock the 3 Chinese movies down to 8th, 9th, and 10th place at least.
Unfortunately, Beetlejuice x2 fell just shy of what it needed to make to displace any of them. It still needs $18 Million to take 9th place from Pegasus 2, and unless Bruce finds a whole lot of money in the international cushions, that's probably not going to happen.
So what else does Hollywood have?
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/release-schedule
You see any movies in there you think can break half a billion?
Gladiator 2?
Wicked?
Moana 2?
Kraven the Hunter? 
Mufasa: The Lion King?
Sonic the Hedgehog 3?
Nosferatu?
Whatever the hell "The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim" is?
The only one I'd say for sure should do it is Moana 2. Other than that, I'll give it to Mufasa as well. Disney has only put out two movies this year and they both made well over a Billion. I think people liked Moana. I know people loved The Lion King, and I count myself among them. If they stripped the woke shit out of these two cartoons, I could see them easily crossing half a billion and making quite a bit more on top of that.
I don't think Sonic 3 would do it. I dunno. Maybe pre-covid it would have.
Wicked and/or Gladiator 2 might, but I know they're both woke trash that I'm never going to watch.
Very unlikely that a movie named Nosferatu would ever crack half a billion.
I'm guessing the numbers for Kraven the Hunter makes Sony decide to end the non-Spider-Man Spider-Man movie experiment once and for all. At least we should all get a good laugh out of that one.
With that short list of "blockbusters" still yet to come out, there's pretty much no way out of having at least 2 Chinese movies on that list at the end of the year.
That's really not the end of the world though. I was under the mistaken impression until some time earlier this year that the Chinese never had a Top 10 movie on the list at the end of the year until now. But when I was doing research on something unrelated I discovered that seeing a Chinese movie on that list over the last 10 or 12 years at least isn't super out of the ordinary.
I don't think it should be happening for any reason, but I if Hollywood starts making better financial decisions going forward I think it could easily take back the Top 10 for many years to come. That should happen because all the free money and venture capital dried up. We've seen the shift taking place. I'm hopeful for the future.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President. 
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Better than Joker and Joker 2
Deleted Arkham Scene - Director's Commentary | Warner Bros.
in the style of 'The Man Who Laughs' based on a 1928 movie an adaptation of Victor Hugo's 1869 novel of the same name
Post theater homevideo Joker 2 gets stomped
‘The Substance’ Does Equal to ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ on PVOD, but ‘Beetlejuice Beetlejuice’ Is Bigger
https://www.indiewire.com/news/box-office/the-substance-joker-folie-a-
deux-pvod-1235062753/
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I wouldn't write off Kraven the Hunter yet, its got Japanese involved and as Hollywood stumbled they have got very good at the whole tv, movie, anime, cinema thing, they have US brands Ghostbusters, Men In Black but the really got things going with other brands. Japan studios often double up as Video Game studios and the gaming entertainment they have good profit.
Sony - Spider-Man No Way Home ...one of the few movies that made money with this Covid pandemic era stuff happening
Godzillia minus one was one of their most profitable movies
the new Venom is doing far better than expected
they seem to advertise well overseas, no tranny DEI SJW stuff in their ads just fun entertainment by a Japan studio
Kraven is getting feedback as extreme 'gore' all it needs is people complaining in an interesting way and controversy and shock can sell and generate its own publicity.
They own Bond that 007 brand, Angry Birds, Hotel Transylvania, 'The Da Vinci Code'.
'It Ends With Us' another hit.
Have they been putting 'Kraven' as a character into their playstation video games?
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Whatever the hell "The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim" is?
a Japanese cartoon, anime for cinema
it won't make much but LOTR is almost $2 Billion Domestic and $6 Billion overseas, it sits just short of those two numbers...it would not take much to push it over one of these lines adding to the overall value of the brand
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Hollywood Reacts To Donald Trump: Bette Midler Deletes X Account, Christina Applegate “Still Reeling And Sobbing”, and Jamie Lee Curtis Urges “Be Gentle” – Update
https://deadline.com/2024/11/hollywood-reacts-to-donald-trump-election
-win-1236168897/
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Quote:Do you wish to see the comic book that inspired the movie “Here”? Free download:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
So many great directors of the past seem to no longer have it for whatever reason
Robert Zemeckis you expect comedy, action, maybe a fun active kids animation with CGI but 'Here' is something else...
https://getcomics.org/other-comics/here-2014-1989/
The comic book convinced Hollywood to make this movie. What is in the comic?
There is no plot and no story to “Here” the comic book. The comic book sets up a camera at one location, pointing in one direction, and records everything that happens over 3 billion years. The comic book, and probably the movie, is the highlights, presented in no particular order, jumping back and forth across time. There are dinosaurs. There are meteors killing the dinosaurs. There is the American Revolution, at least what can be seen from where the house was built, but before it was built. There are dull house parties. Thank God these people are dead, but there are scenes from thousands of years in the future when the house is part of a museum exhibit. If the movie is at all similar to the comic book, it is a dull museum exhibit. A snooze-fest. Hollywood should never make another such movie.
You know what the best thing about comics compared to movies? You can move through the pages as fast as you want. You are not locked into the speed that the director, Robert Zemeckis, thinks is appropriate for his 3 billion year long epic. I stopped going to theaters because there is no fast forward button to fast pass through the dull parts. Who wants to spend 90 seconds watching the logos of production companies at the beginning of a movie? Or the credits at the end? You can leave before the credits complete or you can just avoid the whole experience by watching a copy at home where you do have a fast forward button.
Production Budget: $50,000,000 (worldwide box office is 0.1 times production budget)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Here-(2024)#tab=summary
How did “Here” come to be made?
https://deadline.com/2024/11/here-box-office-bomb-tom-hanks-1236165725/
“I have to give all the credit to (former Miramax Head) Bill Block who had the courage and had the vision to understand the movie and make it. He’s the one guy who had the conviction to do this. That was fantastic. Thank God that he was there to do it.” “Here” was close to finished by the time Block exited Miramax back in October 2023.
Who is Bill Block?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Block
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Warner Bros. “Must Deliver More Consistency,” CEO David Zaslav Says After ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Flop
"Even in an industry of hits and misses, we must acknowledge that our studios business must deliver more consistency,” the studio chief told analysts during an analyst call.
By Etan Vlessing, Georg Szalai | November 7, 2024 5:55am
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/warner-bros-d
avid-zaslav-joker-1235341734/
“For the past two years, we’ve been driving changes within our motion picture studio to improve green light governance and franchise management, which remain focal points going forward. This is a business where translating operational changes into results takes time, but I believe we’ll see those strategic shifts deliver improved outcomes in the coming years,” Zaslav said.
Hindsight is 20/20 but Zaslav realized that foresight can detect movie ideas/themes that will never be successful and should not be green lighted. A Joker musical sung off-key? Joker dies before meeting Batman? That is certain to fail.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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