Elections; 2024

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Trump promised on TV to pay funeral expenses for a dead soldier. When it came time to pay, as he has thousands of times before when presented with the opportunity, Trump reveals his true character:

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At a certain point, according to two people present at the meeting, Trump asked, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”

According to attendees, and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting taken by a participant, an aide answered: Yes, we received a bill; the funeral cost $60,000.

Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off.”

Khawam, the family attorney, told me she sent the bill to the White House, but no money was ever received by the family from Trump.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-ge
nerals-hitler/680327/

Not paying, until he loses a lawsuit, is a lifelong theme with Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I've recently explained to Jack and signym that if you hang around with scum you too are scum. It's very simple and irrefutable. Putin is scum, Trump is scum, therefore, if you prefer them to decent people, you too are scum. It's impossible to deny or disprove.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No wonder SECOND tried to bury this, and why he won't respond to this post ...

SECOND: This is your third chance to respond, Signym. And you are cheering Russia on,

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Really?
Quote me. With links. Or STFU.

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SECOND the infamous country that

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IN THE PAST

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killed 64 million of its people,

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A figure that no other historian comes close to

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including 4 million Ukrainians back when it called itself the Soviet Union. Name changes didn't change its nature as a mass murderer.

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And you calling yourself morally superior doesn't change who you are

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I can't say every Russian is an accessory to murder but pretty close to every Russian has amnesia about those murders, as do you, Signym.

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I don't believe your figures. I accept that a lot of political murders occurred under Stalin. I also separate those deaths from mass killings of Russians by Germans in WWII.

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SIGNY: Just bc I predict that Russia will win doesn't mean I'm "cheering him on". All it means is that I don't partake of your delusions.

SECOND: This is from Ukraine/Russian thread. Signym did not respond.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=1
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, just OOC what are your dark predictions for a Trump second term? I would like to know what worries you most, thanks.

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Trump’s $2.7 trillion in tariff revenues would be unable to cover $9.2 trillion in tax cuts.

https://apnews.com/article/budget-deficit-trump-harris-kamala-debt-1ee
3ff65e22ccf19d19b792ee22c46da

Signym, $9.2 trillion does not sound too bad to you, does it? But the analysis includes other possibilities that show far higher deficits under Trump. If his tariffs raised less money and there were higher costs for his mass deportations and tax breaks, the national debt could jump by $15.2 trillion.

Signym, I say $15.2 trillion for electing Trump is too high a price to pay for him saving Putin from the consequences of invading Ukraine.

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A) WTH does a Trump deficit have to do with "cheering on" Russia? I guess you can't find that quote where I AM "cheering on Russiac to harp on, can you?

B) I didn't respond bc if I respond you'll immediately change the topic or resort to personal insults or lies. That's why I don't respond on topic to ANY of your posts: There is no having a conversation with you. This is just a place for you to splatter propaganda, lie, and troll.

Now, are you gonna post (for the 1000th time!) how morally superior you are to "Trumptards', or how I'm a pro-slavery Nazi?


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Originally posted by THG:

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Originally posted by SECOND:

Trump promised on TV to pay funeral expenses for a dead soldier. When it came time to pay, as he has thousands of times before when presented with the opportunity, Trump reveals his true character:

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At a certain point, according to two people present at the meeting, Trump asked, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”

According to attendees, and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting taken by a participant, an aide answered: Yes, we received a bill; the funeral cost $60,000.

Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off.”

Khawam, the family attorney, told me she sent the bill to the White House, but no money was ever received by the family from Trump.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-ge
nerals-hitler/680327/

Not paying, until he loses a lawsuit, is a lifelong theme with Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I've recently explained to Jack and signym that if you hang around with scum you too are scum. It's very simple and irrefutable. Putin is scum, Trump is scum, therefore, if you prefer them to decent people, you too are scum. It's impossible to deny or disprove.

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Your list of "decent people" includes the Cheneys, the Bush family and the Pelosi family.

Nobody cares about your idiot opinions about anybody, idiot.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/10/23/sean_trende_harris_
campaign_has_already_reached_every_voter_they_can_with_orange_man_bad_message.html

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If you know who Liz Cheney and Charlie Sykes are, and you care, you're already voting Democrat. I don't think they reach any new voters.

Now, there's a broader issue here, which is that I think the Harris campaign just has a bad theory of the case. We saw this in the debate and we talked about it a little then, but they are running "Trump is a bad man," as their campaign. I think anyone who thinks Trump is a bad man -- and cares -- is already voting Democrat.

What Harris' campaign has lacked is a chance to define itself and give a sense of what Harris is for. That's what really needs to be done in these closing days. I think "Orange Man Bad" is something that has just completely run its course for the Democratic message machine.

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On this day in History, October 23rd:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Harris +0.6000Biden +8.0000Clinton0 +5.9
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.1000Biden +5.4000Clinton0 +6.2
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.8000Biden +5.1000Clinton0 +5.6
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.0000Trump +0.6000Trump000 +0.4
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.6000Biden +8.1000Clinton +11.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.8000Biden +2.4000Clinton0 +1.5
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.9000Biden +5.2000Clinton 0+5.2
North Carolina00Trump0 +0.4000Biden +1.5000Clinton 0+2.9
Georgia000000000Trump0 +2.5000Biden +0.8000Trump000 +4.0
Florida000000000Trump0 +8.4000Biden +1.5000Clinton0 +4.0

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.4
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +5.5
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +5.9
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.4
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.9
Arizona:0000000 Trump +4.2
Nevada:00000000 Trump +6.1
North Carolina: Trump +1.9
Georgia:0000000 Trump +3.3
Florida:0000000 Trump +9.9

And here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2016...

National:000000 Trump +6.5
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.3
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +6.4
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.6
Michigan:000000 Trump +11.6
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.3
Nevada:00000000

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THG

Thursday, October 24, 2024 4:18 AM

Oct. 21, 2024
Donald Trump Favorability Icon indicating this set of polls has an average.
AVG.
Oct. 18-21-24
1,188 LV
YouGov
The Times of London, SAY24 Favorable 43% 52% Unfavorable Unfavorable +9
Oct. 18-21-24
1,266 RV
YouGov
The Times of London, SAY24 Favorable 43% 52% Unfavorable Unfavorable +9

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Originally posted by THG:
Oct. 21, 2024
Donald Trump Favorability Icon indicating this set of polls has an average.
AVG.
Oct. 18-21-24
1,188 LV
YouGov
The Times of London, SAY24 Favorable 43% 52% Unfavorable Unfavorable +9
Oct. 18-21-24
1,266 RV
YouGov
The Times of London, SAY24 Favorable 43% 52% Unfavorable Unfavorable +9

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Gallup just put out a poll with Harris -2 on Trump for favorability, making her the least liked Presidential candidate since Gallup was measuring for it.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/652427/trump-harris-favorability-low-end-
year-trend.aspx

You've got nothing to celebrate here. Likability was the only thing that Harris supposedly had going for her and everyone hates her. This should be a surprise to no one since she only garnered 1% of the vote in polling before she dropped out of the 2020 primary in December of 2019 due to running out of funds.


There is less than 2 weeks left and you've run out of time. There is nothing you can do to get Harris over the finish line.

Watch as the polls which already spell the doom of her political career continue to get worse for her as we draw closer to election day.

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Bill Ackman Reveals The Moment He Became Redpille
Wednesday, Oct 23, 2024 - 11:40 AM

On the Triggernometry podcast, billionaire hedge fund manager Bill Ackman reflected on a pivotal moment that reshaped his perception of media trustworthiness, explaining how he and many others were misled by the media concocting the “Very Fine People” hoax against then-President Donald Trump.

KONSTANTIN KISIN: You thought very carefully about who to support in this election, and you have spoken a number of times about some of the things that you believed about Donald Trump, for example, that you were misled about by the mainstream media. That's the kind of environment you're really talking about. Where somebody runs and they immediately become the sort of demon monkey, and they're completely misrepresented. It doesn't mean they don't have flaws, but they're misrepresented about the things that they say. Is there a way to change that, first and foremost?

BILL ACKMAN: You need neutral spaces in media, by the way—neutral spaces where you can counteract the—I hate to use the word misinformation because that itself has problems. Look, I don’t want to sit here and just be an advertisement for X, but what's interesting is that when someone writes a profile of me in some media form, I can, within an hour of that article coming out, very specifically fact-check or address the issue, as could obviously any candidate for office. Prior to X being this sort of neutral platform, you had to send the Times a beg them for a correction, and in a few weeks, on quote-unquote page 4 or 3, in a place no one would read, the correction would appear. I think the more the public has lost confidence in conventional media, the more they're going to look to empirical voices in podcasting and citizen journalism on X. I do think that's a powerful counterpoint.

One of the most powerful moments for many people, actually one of them for me, isI truly believed that Trump had said the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists were among the very fine people protesting. It takes about two minutes to actually watch what he said to realize he said precisely the opposite—that he condemned them. He said, "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists" when he was talking about very fine people. That's the moment when you realize, "Oh my God, I really have been misled by the media." You look at the 60 Minutes excerpting that was done with Kamala, and you realize how much you can be manipulated, particularly by taped and excerpted media. So, if I'm trying to get to the truth, I want to hear the voice of the candidate—untaped, unscripted, without the teleprompter.

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Why do you believe liars?
Why are you cheerleading scum?



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Scaramucci has a message for voters about Trump

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Copeium.

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Nate Silver Gives Up on 2024 Poll Predictions to Deliver ‘Gut’ Call

NECK AND NECK

“You should resign yourself to the fact that a 50-50 forecast really does mean 50-50,” he wrote of the 2024 presidential election.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nate-silver-gives-up-on-2024-poll-predic
tions-to-deliver-gut-call/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tulsi brings integrity and patriotism to whatever party she joins, whenever she joins.

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Originally posted by SECOND:
Nate Silver Gives Up on 2024 Poll Predictions to Deliver ‘Gut’ Call

NECK AND NECK

“You should resign yourself to the fact that a 50-50 forecast really does mean 50-50,” he wrote of the 2024 presidential election.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nate-silver-gives-up-on-2024-poll-predic
tions-to-deliver-gut-call/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tell us you don't want to piss off your paid subscriber base by telling them the truth without pissing off your paid subscriber base by telling them the truth, Nate.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Tulsi brings integrity and patriotism to whatever party she joins, whenever she joins.

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If she had integrity, Tulsi would NOT have dropped her lawsuit.
(Trump is infamous for filing lawsuits that go nowhere)

And if patriotic she would have NOT switched from “defeating Donald Trump” to supporting Trump.
(Now I see why Tulsi filed the frivolous lawsuit)

1) Jan. 22, 2020 - Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for $50M, claims defamation over 'Russian asset' remark

Clinton said during a podcast interview last fall that one of the Democratic candidates is "the favorite of the Russians," leading Gabbard to lash out.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/tulsi-gabbard-sues-hill
ary-clinton-defamation-over-russian-asset-remark-n1120176

2) May 27, 2020 - Tulsi Gabbard drops defamation lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

“Plaintiffs Tulsi Gabbard and Tulsi Now, Inc. dismiss this action. While they remain certain of the action’s legal merit, they are just as certain that this new COVID and post-COVID world require them to focus their time and attention on other priorities, including defeating Donald Trump in 2020, rather than righting the wrongs here.”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/politics/tulsi-gabbard-clinton-lawsuit/
index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Why she left

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The former congresswoman said the [Democrat] party is "now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness."

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Why she changed

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she praised the GOP presidential nominee [Trump] for bringing the Republican Party "back to the party of the people and the party of peace."

"To those of you here or those watching at home who are independent-minded people like myself, who love our country and are committed to the Constitution and to freedom, the Democratic Party has no home for people like us," Gabbard said. "But we do have a home in the Republican Party where we are welcomed with open arms by President Trump."

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Her big issue seems to be our pointless, endless foreign wars.

Watching all the neocons and warmongers (of both parties) rally behind Kamala and attack Trump may be what tipped the balace.


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2) May 27, 2020 - Tulsi Gabbard drops defamation lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

“Plaintiffs Tulsi Gabbard and Tulsi Now, Inc. dismiss this action. While they remain certain of the action’s legal merit, they are just as certain that this new COVID and post-COVID world require them to focus their time and attention on other priorities, including defeating Donald Trump in 2020, rather than righting the wrongs here.”

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Well... That was ultimately the goal of all 19 of the Democrat challengers in the Democrat primary.

Oh... Not Kamala though. She ran out of money and dropped out of the primary six months earlier in December of 2019. She was already deeply in the process of leveraging her DEI to get the VP pick if Democrats won.



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On this day in History, October 24rd:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Harris +0.2000Biden +8.1000Clinton0 +5.5
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.2000Biden +5.4000Clinton0 +6.2
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.6000Biden +5.3000Clinton0 +5.6
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.0000Trump +0.6000Trump000 +0.4
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.2000Biden +9.0000Clinton +10.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.5000Biden +2.4000Clinton0 +1.5
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.7000Biden +5.2000Clinton 0+5.0
North Carolina00Trump0 +0.8000Biden +1.5000Clinton 0+2.4
Georgia000000000Trump0 +2.2000Biden +0.8000Trump000 +4.0
Florida000000000Trump0 +8.4000Biden +1.5000Clinton0 +4.0

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.9
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +5.2
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +4.7
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.6
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.8
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.9
Nevada:00000000 Trump +5.9
North Carolina: Trump +2.3
Georgia:0000000 Trump +3.0
Florida:0000000 Trump +9.9

And here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2016...

National:000000 Trump +5.7
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.0
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +5.0
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.6
Michigan:000000 Trump +9.8
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.0
Nevada:00000000

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2) May 27, 2020 - Tulsi Gabbard drops defamation lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

“Plaintiffs Tulsi Gabbard and Tulsi Now, Inc. dismiss this action. While they remain certain of the action’s legal merit, they are just as certain that this new COVID and post-COVID world require them to focus their time and attention on other priorities, including defeating Donald Trump in 2020, rather than righting the wrongs here.”

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Well... That was ultimately the goal of all 19 of the Democrat challengers in the Democrat primary.

Oh... Not Kamala though. She ran out of money and dropped out of the primary six months earlier in December of 2019. She was already deeply in the process of leveraging her DEI to get the VP pick if Democrats won.



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In 2016 Gabbard was seeking a position in the Trump Cabinet. Jump forward eight years and she again seeks a position in the Trump Cabinet:

"After Trump went on to win the 2016 general election, Gabbard said she had a “frank and positive” meeting with the President-elect and was rumored to be considered for a Cabinet position."

(She did NOT get the position because she was still serving as a Democrat in Congress. She refused to impeach Trump and became the “most disliked” Democrat.)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-s-political-evol
ution/ar-AA1sLYsR

Gabbard ran as a Democrat because only a Democrat could be elected in Hawaii but she was no Democrat at all. She was just a gifted liar saying whatever was necessary to trick the voters in Hawaii back in 2002.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I hope Gabbard gets a position in the Trump Cabinet.

She would be a stabilizing voice.

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Over 80% Of Americans Are In Favor Of Requiring Photo ID, Proof Of Citizenship To Vote
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- With less than two weeks to go in the presidential campaign and voting already underway in many states, 76% of U.S. adults favor the concept of early voting. Two other election law policies are supported by even more Americans -- requiring photo identification to vote (84%) and providing proof of citizenship when registering to vote for the first time (83%).

Smaller majorities of Americans -- 60% each -- favor automatic voter registration, whereby citizens are registered when they do business with state agencies such as the Department of Motor Vehicles, and sending absentee ballot applications to all eligible voters. In contrast, majorities of Americans oppose removing people from voter registration lists if they haven’t voted in any elections in five years (64%) and limiting the number of drop boxes or locations for returning absentee ballots (58%).

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/652523/americans-endorse-early-voting-vot
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I hope Gabbard gets a position in the Trump Cabinet.

She would be a stabilizing voice.

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I'm 100% behind it.

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Gabbard ran as a Democrat because only a Democrat could be elected in Hawaii but she was no Democrat at all. She was just a gifted liar saying whatever was necessary to trick the voters in Hawaii back in 2002.

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She's not a Republican either. They're all neocons and are voting for your girl.

If you haven't noticed, there has been a seismic shift in both parties that has been going on for over 2 decades now.

You're witnessing the end of both parties as you knew them.

The Democrats are now the party of war and the Billionaires.

So far, the most important thing that Trump has ever done in his entire life is getting the NeoCons to out themselves en masse by supporting Harris.



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Originally posted by SECOND:
Gabbard ran as a Democrat because only a Democrat could be elected in Hawaii but she was no Democrat at all. She was just a gifted liar saying whatever was necessary to trick the voters in Hawaii back in 2002.

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She's not a Republican either. They're all neocons and are voting for your girl.

If you haven't noticed, there has been a seismic shift in both parties that has been going on for over 2 decades now.

You're witnessing the end of both parties as you knew them.

The Democrats are now the party of war and the Billionaires.

So far, the most important thing that Trump has ever done in his entire life is getting the NeoCons to out themselves en masse by supporting Harris.

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It's gotten so bad for you that I think Cenk is going to vote for Trump. At this point I'm sure that Ana is going to give her vote to Trump.

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CNN's Enten: Normal Polling Error In Swing States Makes Electoral College Blowout In Either Direction
Most Likely Outcome

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/10/24/cnns_enten_normal_m
argin_of_polling_error_in_swing_states_makes_electoral_college_blowout_in_either_direction_most_likely_outcome.html

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"History shows it's more likely than not that the swing-state polling errors will all move in one direction. In 2012, 92% of the states moved toward Obama, with the polls underestimating him. In 2016, 83% of the swing states moved together because the polls underestimated Trump. And in 2020, 100% of the swing state poll averages underestimated Donald Trump," he explained. "Don't be surprised if this time around, when the swing-state polls underestimate one candidate, they underestimate them in all the states, leading to a relatively big Electoral College win of at least 300 electoral votes for one of the candidates."

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We all know which way it will break, Harry. I realize that at a partisan network it's your job not to
admit that you know, and there's a very large part of you that just doesn't want to admit it.

As I said before, this isn't going to be a close victory. Unless some earth-shattering event comes
in and saves the Democrat party in the 11th hour, this is not only going to be an electoral
landslide of an election for Trump, but he's likely going to win the Popular Vote by several
million votes as well.

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Robert C. O’Brien, who served as Donald Trump’s national security adviser in 2019 and 2020, explains why things were so great under Trump:

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When Iran got out of line, we eliminated an Iranian general of some note. We heard, “ISIS is an idea. It can’t be defeated,” but we sure as hell defeated them.

So we weren’t averse to using force, but we wanted to stop using force for nation building and for things that weren’t in American interest. We drew a red line in Ukraine, and Putin didn’t dare cross it. We gave the Ukrainians Javelin missiles, which are the only reason today that Ukraine is free.

We were tough on the Chinese. We let them know that it would be entirely unacceptable to invade Taiwan.

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This is some serious revisionist history. The war against ISIS was more than halfway done by the time Trump took office and nobody said victory was impossible. Trump beat ISIS merely by allowing the military to continue Obama's plan.

There was no red line in Ukraine. That's just fantasy. And yes, Trump gave Ukraine Javelin missiles, but only under heavy pressure. He didn't want to do it.

As for Taiwan, sure, a Chinese invasion was unacceptable under Trump—just as it was under every other US president going back to Jimmy Carter. Trump was happy to use Taiwan as leverage in his trade war with China, but more concretely his sales of arms to Taiwan were considerably lower than usual.

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He said the military will stay and be strong. We’re going to bring all the American equipment home. We’ll bring home those who helped us on the ground. And we’re not leaving unless the Taliban comes to a good-faith agreement with the Afghan government on a government of national unity that will keep up the fight against ISIS-K.

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This is delusional. When Biden pushed out the withdrawal, Trump explicitly condemned it and said we should just get the hell out. It would have been an unqualified disaster.

These people, even the sober, sane sounding ones, are completely trapped in a bubble of Trump worship. I'm sure O'Brien believes every word he says here, but that hardly makes it any better than Trump's lies. Maybe worse.
https://jabberwocking.com/trump-foreign-policy-folks-are-living-inside
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All the stories that come out of North Korea used to be so unbelievable to me. Kim Jong Un personally directs each factory on what to produce, how much of it and how much to price it, and as a result, North Korea is far more prosperous than South Korea and is poised to conquer the world any day now. Kim does all this and he doesn’t even poop or have a butthole! All of it just sounded completely crazy and I figured average Koreans knew it was all bullshit and simply were acting loyal because to do otherwise was death.

Then Trump came down the golden escalator. And his cult has proved impervious to all facts, logic, morality or even self-interest.

I no longer wonder how it is that North Korea is so delusional. We’re about halfway there ourselves. I hate Trumpers so much for destroying things like rational thought, human decency and shared reality… as well as unleashing a good 70-80m Americans to be their worst selves.

https://jabberwocking.com/trump-foreign-policy-folks-are-living-inside
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Lordy, I hope we never again have to deal with all those stupid, stupid Trump cabinet meetings that would start off with officials bowing and scraping about what an honor it is to be in Trump's presence.

Similar to your revelation about NK, the Trump presidency convinced me that the fascist leaders of the 20th century were not (or certainly didn't need to be) evil geniuses. Evil dumb people (like Trump) may be even more likely to stupid their way into wrecking a country from within than awful people who are competent.

https://jabberwocking.com/trump-foreign-policy-folks-are-living-inside
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The same question is also extended to Kevin Drum and any of his musings this week.

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What will happen if Donald Trump loses the election?

By John Hendrickson | October 24, 2024, 11:05 AM E

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-duluth-geor
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Tucker Carlson’s eyes narrowed as he conjured the image. A Donald Trump victory, he said at a campaign event in Gwinnett County, Georgia, last night, “will be a middle finger wagging in the face of the worst people in the English-speaking world.”

Trump maintains that he’s running for president a third time to restore and unite the country. But many Democrats and even some Republicans have expressed profound concern for democracy and overall safety if the former president wins this election. Last night at the Gwinnett County event, sponsored by Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point Action, I asked Trump’s supporters to consider the inverse: What do you think will happen if Trump loses?

The more Trump rallies I attended, the more this question had been gnawing at me. He has framed this presidential contest as a “final battle,” and he may well win. But if he doesn’t, I wanted to know if he and his supporters would really go quietly. I heard a range of answers last night, from promises to accept the outcome to predictions of a new Civil War.

I approached the former Trump-administration official Peter Navarro, who was signing copies of his book The New MAGA Deal: The Unofficial Deplorables Guide to Donald Trump’s 2024 Policy Platform. Earlier this year, Navarro spent four months in prison. Like another Trump ally, Steve Bannon, Navarro had been found in contempt of Congress after failing to comply with subpoenas from the House Select Committee on January 6. If Trump loses the election, Navarro told me that “the country will disintegrate,” and he warned of “very hard times.” I asked him if he thought something akin to another January 6 might occur. “By asking that question you’re trying to stir up shit, man,” he said. He told me that my query would be better suited for President Joe Biden and the Democrats. “Those assholes put me in prison,” he said. “Do you hear me?”

Another former Trump-administration official, Ben Carson, took a more conciliatory approach to my question. “I think we’ll have to regroup and try to figure out how we can save our country,” Carson said. He told me he doubted that another event like the storming of the Capitol would take place. “I think regardless of who wins or loses, we’ve got to tone down the dissension and the hatred that’s going on in our country, or it’s going to be destroyed,” Carson said.

Rank-and-file Trump supporters had varying opinions on the matter. I chatted with one attendee, Joshua Barnes, while he waited in line to buy strawberry smoothies for himself and his wife at a food truck outside the arena. The couple had driven four hours that morning from their home in Alabama to hear Trump speak live for the first time. “If she does become president, as much as I would hate it, you kind of do have to accept it,” Barnes said, referring to Vice President Kamala Harris. He told me he did not want another insurrection to occur, but he acknowledged the possibility of something worse: a period of postelection unrest, or even civil war. (He pointed me to a Rasmussen survey from the spring that had shown a distressingly high percentage of respondents saying the same thing.)

A man from Gwinnett County named Rich who works in construction told me that this was his fourth Trump rally. “I’m a pretty good judge of character, and when people are trying to shovel me a load of garbage, it’s like, No, it stinks, okay?” he said of Harris and the Democrats. He predicted protests no matter who loses, but did not anticipate another January 6, which he referred to as a “situation” and not an insurrection. As for something closer to a civil war? “I think anything’s possible; I don’t think it’s out of the question, and I really can’t elaborate on that,” he said, adding only that he was hoping it wouldn’t happen.

In the parking lot, I met a man named Mark Williams, who told me he ran the biggest polit

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And yet, meanwhile in reality, it's always people on the Left that loot and burn shit down. Every single time.


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More bad news from Harry over at CNN today...

CNN's Enten: Rising Support Among Independent Voters Good Sign For Trump

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/10/24/cnns_enten_normal_m
argin_of_polling_error_in_swing_states_makes_electoral_college_blowout_in_either_direction_most_likely_outcome.html


This election is over.



Good on you for talking about trends, Harry. You really need to explain that in more detail though
because people like Ted can't even grasp the concept.


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Is Trump a Fascist? Allan Lichtman discusses.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Historian Allan Lichtman has insisted that he stands by his prediction about who will win the 2024 presidential race despite recent polls – and revealed that he has “never experienced” so much “hate” in an election cycle.

Lichtman is known as the “Nostradamus” of polling due to the fact he has correctly predicted the results of nine out of 10 presidential elections since 1984.

His method for forecasting the race so accurately is known as “The Keys to the White House,” a system he devised with the Russian academic Vladimir Keilis-Borok in 1981.

And despite the polls, which show the race is now tighter than ever between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, Lichtman stands by his prediction that the Democrat will win the White House in November.

“My prediction has not changed,” Lichtman said on his YouTube channel.

“I have frequently made my prediction correctly in defiance of the polls, it’s based on 160 years of precedent.”

Lichtman conceded, however, that there is always a possibility he could be wrong.

“The keys are very robust,” he said. “But it’s always possible that something so cataclysmic and so unprecedented could change the pattern of history.”

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/nostra
damus-pollster-allan-lichtman-trump-harris-election-b2634857.html

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The keys aren't wrong. He's just not being honest with himself about who actually holds them.

9 out of 11 isn't bad, Alan. You've got 4 years of work to do with your shrink so you don't fall to 8 out of 11 next time.



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The keys aren't wrong. He's just not being honest with himself about who actually holds them.

9 out of 11 isn't bad, Alan. You've got 4 years of work to do with your shrink so you don't fall to 8 out of 11 next time.



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Lichtman is not wrong about Trump being a Fascist. For those who think Trump is not what he is, Heil Trump! Pass along the rumor that Fascist supporting voters will go to Camp Concentration. Safest action is to not vote, Trumptards.

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9 out of 11 isn't bad, Alan. You've got 4 years of work to do with your shrink so you don't fall to 8 out of 11 next time.



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I don't remember one of the Keys pertaining to fascism. To my knowledge, Lichtman has never said this or anything remotely close to it. Please show me video footage or an article where he has stated such.

But I believe that he either believes this, or was so desperate for a pat on the head and a "Good Boy" that he just trashed his rating system by calling a race way before he should have.

At least he's got the integrity to go down with his ship now though. It would only further devalue his Keys system if he were to change his tune this late in the race. And really... who could blame Alan? You guys were so busy huffing Harris' asshole for one more hit of Joy and buying into your media circus despite my many warnings against you doing so.

And here we are, less than 2 weeks away from election and Donald Trump is leading Harris in polling in every battleground state and he is only 0.3 points away from leading her in the national popular vote. Unless ALL of the polling firms collectively over-corrected way too hard to the right after failing miserably the last two election cycles, Trump wins on November 5th easily.

Jaynez can put this in his prediction thread, but I don't believe we're going to see Alan Lichtman ever call a Presidential race before the last two weeks of October in the future. The fact that he had the gall to boldy call an unprecedented race like this in August was just asinine on his part.

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Since 1928, the S&P 500 – which tracks the performance of 500 of the largest firms listed in the US – has pointed to the winner in 20 out of 24 elections, according to an analysis by financial services company LPL Financial.

When US stocks were up during the three months before election day, the incumbent party kept the White House on 12 out of 15 occasions. And the party in power lost eight out of the last nine times that the market was in negative territory leading up to the vote.

It is not a bad track record as forecasting models go.

With less than two weeks until the election, the S&P 500 is up a healthy 11.8 percent since early August.

Assuming US stocks do not take a dramatic tumble in the final days of the campaign, the historical trend clearly favours Harris.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/want-to-know-who-will-win-the-
us-election-take-a-look-at-the-stock-market/ar-AA1sP3M2

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“I think Trump was the biggest factor in changing the Republican Party from what Ronald Reagan viewed and he wouldn’t recognize today,” McConnell told the Associated Press’ Michael Tackett for the upcoming biography “The Price of Power” obtained by CNN ahead of its release.

McConnell added that the former president has “done a lot of damage to our party’s image and our ability to compete.”

“Trump is appealing to people who haven’t been as successful as other people and providing an excuse for that, that these more successful people have somehow been cheating, and you don’t deserve to think of yourself as less successful because things haven’t been fair,” he said.

Some of McConnell’s strongest comments were focused on Trump’s behavior after he lost the election in 2020, calling him “erratic.”

“Unfortunately, about half the Republicans in the country believe whatever he says,” McConnell said at the time, adding to an oral historian, “I think I’m pretty safe in saying it’s not just the Democrats who are counting the days until he leaves on January 20, but the Republicans as well.” McConnell gave Tackett access to his personal archive, including an oral history he has been recording since 1995, for the book.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/mcconnell-trump-gop-new-book/i
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It’s one thing for some leftist group to call you a fascist. Quite another when it’s a fellow Republican. And absolutely astonishing when it’s your own chief of staff.

https://x.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1849246285326332319

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“Trump is appealing to people who haven’t been as successful as other people and providing an excuse for that, that these more successful people have somehow been cheating, and you don’t deserve to think of yourself as less successful because things haven’t been fair.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/mcconnell-trump-gop-new-book/i
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13 former Trump administration officials sign open letter backing up John Kelly's criticism of Trump

Kelly told the New York Times that Trump meets the definition of a fascist and also said he observed the former president on multiple occasions praising Adolf Hitler.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/13-former-trump-adminis
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“We applaud General Kelly for highlighting in stark details the danger of a second Trump term. Like General Kelly, we did not take the decision to come forward lightly. We are all lifelong Republicans who served our country,” the letter reads.

“However, there are moments in history where it becomes necessary to put country over party. This is one of those moments. Everyone should heed General Kelly’s warning.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ad
ministration-john-kelly-open-letter-fascist-b2635621.html

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MAGA’s Latest Defense of Trump’s Hitler Comments Is the Wildest Yet

Representative Mike Waltz has essentially covered his ears and gone, “La la la!”

In just a handful of hours, Donald Trump’s MAGA allies have gone from arguing that his recent comments about Hitler were misconstrued to just outright claiming that the whole story was completely made up.

During an interview with CNN on Wednesday, Florida Representative Mike Waltz completely rejected the evidence of his eyes and ears, claiming that the Republican presidential nominee’s comments praising Hitler and expecting undying loyalty from his top commanders were phony.

https://newrepublic.com/post/187464/maga-defense-donald-trump-hitler-c
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Who’s afraid of Donald Trump?

Multi-billionaire Warren Buffett will not endorse any candidate for President.

The LA Times won't be endorsing for president this year. Neither will the Washington Post. Bill Gates has "quietly" donated $50 million to Kamala Harris. Jamie Dimon "privately" supports Harris but won't say so publicly.

This is all because prominent billionaires are afraid of retribution from Donald Trump if he wins the election. Not social opprobrium or anything like that. Direct retribution from the president of the United States.

Think on that.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/10/23/warren-buffett-wont-en
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Wow.

Nine .... NINE! ... desperate posts from SECOND!

Hey, SECOND, now you get to see how impotent board- splattering is. Your go- to tactic for the past dozen years in this "war" you've been waging against America? Doesn't work.

Try evidence, logic, and honesty instead.



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Friday, Oct 25, 2024 - 09:10 AM

On Friday, the Washington Post announced that it would not endorse a candidate for president either, for the first time in 36 years.

The Washington Post will not be making an endorsement of a presidential candidate in this election. Nor in any future presidential election. We are returning to our roots of not endorsing presidential candidates," the outlet said in a statement.

Colleagues are said to be 'shocked' at the decision, according to NPR.

The editorial page editor, David Shipley, told colleagues that the Post's publisher, Will Lewis, would publish a note to readers online early Friday afternoon.

Shipley told colleagues the editorial board was told yesterday by management that there would not be an endorsement. He added that he "owns" this decision. The reason he cited was to create "independent space" where the newspaper does not tell people for whom to vote.

Colleagues were said to be "shocked" and uniformly negative. Post corporate spokespeople have not responded to multiple messages left by NPR on the subject.

Update (1350ET): Details Behind Decision To Dump Harris

The Washington Post has shed light on their decision not to endorse a presidential candidate for the first time in more than 30 years, revealing that "The decision not to publish was made by The Post's owner - Amazon founder Jeff Bezos."

The paper also admits that a Harris endorsement had been drafted by staffers but Jeff killed it.

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The editorial editor for the Los Angeles Times quit in protest after the newspaper’s owner blocked a decision to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris.

“I am resigning because I want to make it clear that I am not OK with us being silent,” Mariel Garza told the Columbia Journalism Review.

“In dangerous times, honest people need to stand up. This is how I’m standing up.”

Garza’s resignation followed the news this week that Patrick Soon-Shiong, the billionaire doctor who purchased the Los Angeles Times in 2018 for $500 million, shot down the Times editorial board’s attempt to endorse Harris.

This will be the first election cycle since 2004 in which the Times has not endorsed a candidate.

In a social media post, Soon-Shiong explained he offered the editorial board the chance to “draft a factual analysis of all the POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE policies by EACH candidate during their tenures at the White House, and how these policies affected the nation.”

“With this clear and non-partisan information side-by-side, our readers could decide who would be worthy of being President for the next four years,” he wrote.

“Instead of adopting this path as suggested, the Editorial Board chose to remain silent and I accepted their decision.”

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https://headlineusa.com/latimes-editor-quits-kamala-endorsement/

I guess providing an analysis of the positives and negatives of BOTH candidates was just too much honesty for Garza.

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Wow.

Nine .... NINE! ... desperate posts from SECOND!

Hey, SECOND, now you get to see how impotent board- splattering is. Your go- to tactic for the past dozen years in this "war" you've been waging against America? Doesn't work.

Try evidence, logic, and honesty instead.

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I have always been in conflict with human zeroes who preposterously pretend they are contributors to society's wellbeing. You and Trump do not add to society, Signym. You subtract. But dream on that Trump will redeem your worthless existence once in the White House.

The low energy life of human zeroes: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=1
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Kamala Harris for President of the United States | Endorsement

By The Houston Chronicle Editorial Board
Oct 25, 2024

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/endorsements/article/kamala-h
arris-presidential-endorsement-2024-19829891.php

Clawing out of the mud-caked aftermath of a deadly hurricane should be a solemn moment, even in this divided America. Scenes from Helene’s wrath in North Carolina — sedans flung like toy cars, living room couches marinated in floodwaters, towns reduced to war zone rubble — touch a nerve with Houstonians who lived through Harvey and other devastating storms.

These disasters take so much from us, but the aftermath brings hope. On a trip to North Carolina and Georgia, Vice President Kamala Harris worked a hot meal line and remarked at another point: “I think that in these moments of hardship, one of the beauties about who we are as a country is — is people really rally together and show the best of who they are in moments of crisis.”

In Houston, too, neighbors we’ve never met pull up with chainsaws and muck-and-gut gear, Cajun Navy volunteers deploy boats for rooftop rescues. Government makes itself useful, too, and leaders prioritize concern, clear communication and aid to those in need, above everything — including political stumping and tribalism.

Nearly all political leaders — regardless of party, geography or faith tradition — honor this ritual.

Not Donald Trump.

His visit to Helene-devastated areas was a vehicle to spread lies, inflame and divide. His claims that the Biden administration isn’t helping victims because they’re Republican or that FEMA has run out of money — “It’s all gone. They’ve spent it on illegal migrants.” — are baseless. They’ve been refuted by Republican officials and yet, they’re still stirring fear, anger and distrust that have led to threats against FEMA workers and confusion among vulnerable people about whether help is available and whether it can be trusted.

This is how Trump leads. He doesn’t. Even in a desperate hour of need, he exploits. Even from people who have lost everything, he takes.

It’s just one in a sea of examples showing why we believe Trump is unfit for a second term in the White House, and why this editorial board endorses Kamala Harris for president of the United States.

Many who are firmly in Trump’s camp won’t be swayed, we know. Some are fatigued by dire warnings about his threat to democracy. They’re less concerned in this election with abstract notions of patriotism than with how to pay the rent in a vulturous housing market or how to feed the kids when inflation has eaten the grocery budget. We understand Trump’s star power, the kernel of truth in some of his outrageous diatribes and the sense of community he's built among Americans who feel their grievances have never been adequately addressed.

But we ask those with a shred of doubt to open your minds to inconvenient truths. We ask you to resist the temptation to dismiss the former president as some kind of redeemable shock jock — erratic, entertaining but not really dangerous.

And understand this: A man who will exploit a deadly hurricane will exploit you. A man with six bankruptcies and millions owed that he may not have the cash to pay is trying to win the White House in part to stay out of the poor house

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It should never have come to this.

Kamala is an obviously flawed meat puppet. She is so inauthentic that the newspapers realize they can't sell that ho.

Joe, who has been supposedly heading the USA for four years, proved to be a senile meat puppet suffering from Parkinson's.

What was the deep state thinking? Did they really think they could continue this charade for another four years?
Why couldn't they stand up a candidate with at least a shred of credibility?

Meanwhile, the only other choice we have is yet another obviously flawed candidate, Trump, whose biggest selling point is that the deep state is against him. Plus, he has a crap ton of money.

I thought the idea of running more than one candidate was that we would get BETTER candidates, not the bottom of the barrel.

Just goes to show the corrupting influence of money. No amount of donation limitations will fix that. Candidates use the money to buy ads. So the only thing that will level the playing field somewhat would be requiring free TV and radio time for candidates to explain their views.

The other thing helping is that Musk freed Twitter and turned it into X. Without that wedge, the "establishment media" would have a lock on our information spaces and we would be as much in the dark as before.


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I have always been in conflict with human zeroes who preposterously pretend they are contributors to society's wellbeing. You and Trump do not add to society, Signym. You subtract. You never have been of positive value. You and Trump are absurdly negative, Signym. There is not any Trumptards worth a shit, you and 6ix included. But dream on that Trump will redeem your worthless existence while in the White House.

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Once again flailing away at a figment of your imagination.
Dood, try the real world once in a while. It might be better for your blood pressure.


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Meanwhile, the only other choice we have is yet another obviously flawed candidate, Trump, whose biggest selling point is that the deep state is against him. Plus, he has a crap ton of money.

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Millions voted for Trump in the primary. There were dozens of alternatives, but Trump was who they wanted, not somebody who wasn't a criminal, wasn't a racist, wasn't a Hitler fan, wasn't promising revenge on their enemies. Particularly appealing to primary voters is Trump wasn't paying his income taxes. Check Trump's tax returns. There are not any recent ones made available to public.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Yup. Somebody is on tilt today.

Meanwhile, in reality...



On this day in History, October 25th:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Harris +0.1000Biden +8.0000Clinton0 +5.1
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.2000Biden +5.5000Clinton0 +6.0
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.6000Biden +4.8000Clinton0 +5.2
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.0000Trump +0.6000Trump000 +1.0
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.2000Biden +9.0000Clinton +10.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.5000Biden +2.2000Clinton0 +1.5
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.7000Biden +5.2000Clinton 0+3.9
North Carolina00Trump0 +0.8000Biden +1.2000Clinton 0+2.2
Georgia000000000Trump0 +2.2000Biden +0.7000Trump000 +3.3
Florida000000000Trump0 +8.4000Biden +1.8000Clinton0 +2.4

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.9
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +5.7
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +5.4
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.4
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.8
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.7
Nevada:00000000 Trump +5.9
North Carolina: Trump +2.0
Georgia:0000000 Trump +2.9
Florida:0000000 Trump +10.2

And here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2016...

National:000000 Trump +5.0
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +5.8
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +4.6
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.0
Michigan:000000 Trump +9.8
Arizona:0000000

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Sunday, October 27, 2024 5:15 AM

Another republican lie put to rest.

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Given its track record, I don't believe that I agree with Nate here.

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Nate assumes that what a voter tells a pollster will match what the voter does at the polls. Ha-ha! You are a sucker, Nate.

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Oh. The polls don't matter now because they're not telling you what you want to hear.

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A pollster (Gallup) called my sister's house. I could have said whatever I pleased to the pollster. I could say that I was voting for Trump. That I would not be voting. That I was an illegal alien. That Jill Stein should be elected. I could say anything.

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Why stop at you lying to the pollster? We already know that the pollsters lie to us by hiding away their bias deep down inside of their polling methodologies where nobody but autists like me ever look. They're all run by human beings. Human beings are liars.

There are a million reasons why polls can be inaccurate, and 999,999 of them have nothing to do with you specifically. I know that's hard for you to comprehend since you are the only person that matters in your world.

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Nat Silver depends on the polls being truthful, that someone like me is not screwing things up deliberately. Meanwhile, Lichtman depends on measurable facts but would be in the same situation as Nat Silver if Lichtman asked a random sample of people what they think the facts truly are, in their random and ill-informed opinions.

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Incorrect.

Licthman's KEYS depend on measurable facts.

Licthman himself has proven with his pick this year that he is human and/or he is a liar. Harris does not hold nearly as many keys as Licthman claims she does. Not only is one of the keys not even applicable to the present situation, but there are good arguments that several others didn't apply this election cycle as well. Rather than make adjustments for this to his keys system in this unprecedented election cycle, he chose to just give them all to Harris. And nobody in your media would ever fact check that, so here we are.

His failure to predict the correct outcome of the 2024 election was not a failure of the Keys system. It was operator error.

The Keys system isn't what needs to be replaced. It is the person holding the keys that needs to be retired.




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If you want to complain about the 13 Keys, I'd start with the weight of each Key being exactly 1.000000. Could one key be twice as important as another? Maybe!

Why does Key 2 have the same weight as Key 10? One seems trivial compared to other:

Key 2 (no primary contest) is turned true if the incumbent party nominee wins at least two-thirds of the total delegate vote on the first ballot at the nominating convention, with no deep and vocal party divisions.

Key 10 (no foreign or military failure) is turned false if a failure occurs that is perceived to undermine the standing of the United States and/or erode trust in the president's leadership. Lichtman cites the attack on Pearl Harbor under Franklin D. Roosevelt, the botched Bay of Pigs invasion under John F. Kennedy, North Vietnamese victory in the Vietnam War under Gerald Ford, and the Iranian hostage crisis under Jimmy Carter as failures that turned the key false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I didn't complain about the keys. Only how they were handed out this time.

Weighted as 1.00000000 each, Licthman has correctly predicted the last 9 out of 10 elections.

He didn't attribute the keys where they belonged this year. And as I said before, at least one and as many as 3 keys didn't even apply to the 2024 election, but he just gave them all to Harris anyhow. And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.

Somewhere around here back when Lichtman made his initial prediction I listed what the keys actually were. Some of that the Legacy Media like CNN even admits these things now as it finally starts asking Harris hard questions and forcing her to answer them just two weeks before the election. I didn't think Anderson had it in him... and honestly, when the CIA starts opening the door for Trump like that I start questioning why they're all turning on Harris this late in the game and what their real plan here is.

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And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.

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Key 5 (strong short-term economy) is turned false if the economy is in recession during the election campaign. The National Bureau of Economic Research has not officially declared a recession. Therefore, you are in error, 6ix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House#Keys_5_and_6
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.

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Key 5 (strong short-term economy) is turned false if the economy is in recession during the election campaign. The National Bureau of Economic Research has not officially declared a recession.

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We do not recognize the authority of an institution that denied inflation was even taking place for a full year and would have officially declared a recession a recession at any point in time during the last 2 years had somebody else been sitting in the oval office at the time. The stats that they use to come up with their declarations can be moved around and changed to say whatever they want them to say, and we have no actual access to any of their current and historical models to compare against each other. You are meant to just trust their readings of the data. Those days of blind faith in our government are long dead. That faith in government has been dying for generations and the Covid debacle was the final nail in that coffin.

Remember that it will be the "Strong" short-term and long-term economy being the number one reason why Harris will lose, and why the Democrats have lost a record number of black, Latino and union voters in 2024.



USA Today: Inflation-shocked low- and middle-income Americans may not spend normally for years

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2024/10/25/inflat
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Putting “fun” back into low- and middle-income Americans’ budgets could be years away with most of their income barely covering the surge in costs for bare necessities, economists said.

Even with annual inflation last month cooling to the lowest level since February 2021 and wages rising faster than inflation, low- and middle-income Americans are just barely covering their essentials, which include groceries, shelter, utilities and gasoline, economists say.

That’s because when inflation slows, it only means prices aren't rising as quickly, not that prices are declining. So, Americans continue to pay higher prices for everyday needs.

Low- and middle-income Americans were hit disproportionately harder than their higher-income peers because essentials account for a larger share of their budgets, and their discretionary spending, or spending on nonessential items like dining out, vacations and entertainment, is only just recovering, economists say.

“For a very large share of Americans, the bottom 60% are spending more on essentials than before the pandemic,” said Michael Pearce, Oxford Economics deputy chief U.S. economist. “The burden is hardest among the lowest income but also touches middle income. Spending patterns of low-income Americans will take years to recover.”

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Also... This is one of the two main reasons why Hollywood is currently failing. Not the fact that you finally figured out how to pirate movies now and I knew how to pirate movies back in 2000.

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Also, you missed what was probably my most important point of that post...

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Somewhere around here back when Lichtman made his initial prediction I listed what the keys actually were. Some of that the Legacy Media like CNN even admits these things now as it finally starts asking Harris hard questions and forcing her to answer them just two weeks before the election. I didn't think Anderson had it in him... and honestly, when the CIA starts opening the door for Trump like that I start questioning why they're all turning on Harris this late in the game and what their real plan here is.

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Seriously.

Did you see that CNN town hall? Why was Anderson Cooper drilling Harris like that? I mean, of course, in a perfect world both sides should be drilled like that every time they're in front of a camera, but we know that only one person ever gets treated that way.

The way that Cooper handled Harris the entire night was not something that anybody expected, no matter where they lie on the political spectrum.

My question is, why? And especially why now, with less than 2 weeks to go after she's already been sliding 2 points in the polls and needs one good performance anywhere to stop the bleeding.

None of this is making you ask any questions?

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And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.

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We do not recognize the authority of an institution that denied inflation was even taking place for a full year and would have officially declared a recession a recession at any point in time during the last 2 years had somebody else been sitting in the oval office at the time.

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Google and Bing also say the US is NOT in recession:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Is+the+US+in+recession
https://www.google.com/search?q=Is+the+US+in+recession

I wonder how I knew that 6ixStringJack would claim the US is in recession? And would claim the officials are lying? Because that is standard operating procedure for Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.

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Key 5 (strong short-term economy) is turned false if the economy is in recession during the election campaign. The National Bureau of Economic Research has not officially declared a recession.

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We do not recognize the authority of an institution that denied inflation was even taking place for a full year and would have officially declared a recession a recession at any point in time during the last 2 years had somebody else been sitting in the oval office at the time.

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Google and Bing also say the US is NOT in recession:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Is+the+US+in+recession
https://www.google.com/search?q=Is+the+US+in+recession

I wonder how I knew that 6ixStringJack would claim the US is in recession?

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Oh. You wonder how you knew I'd say that, huh Nostradamus? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the fact that I've said it 2 dozen times over the last 3 years had something to do with those premonitions.

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Google and Bing do and say a lot of things. Google and Bing also hide Trump positive news on the 10th page and stuff the front pages of their search results with pro-Democrat stuff.

Fuck Google and Bing.

That's not helping your argument.




And I'll ask you for a third time now...

Doesn't the way that Anderson Cooper handled Kamala Harris the other night make you ask yourself what the fuck is really going on?

I know that it was as shocking for you to watch it as it was for me. Perhaps even more so.

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None of this is making you ask any questions?

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When deciding to buy machinery, I don't listen the salesmen's promises. I listen to people who already bought, but only those whose good judgment I can depend on.

Likewise, I don't listen to a politician's promises. I listen to the people who already side with the politician. I know so many Trumptards and I won't buy anything they recommend because of who they are, which is on display all day long as they waste their own lives with their bad judgment. I can reliably depend on a Trumptard doing the wrong thing. That is why I do the opposite.

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None of this is making you ask any questions?

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When deciding to buy machinery, I don't listen the salesmen's promises. I listen to people who already bought, but only those whose good judgment I can depend on.

Likewise, I don't listen to a politician's promises. I listen to the people who already side with the politician.

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Yes. We know this.

You LOVE the fact that Dick and Liz Cheney, the Bush family, John Bolton, Mitt Romney and 250 other NeoCon trash is voting for Harris because you're a warmongering NeoCon prick like the entire lot of them.


Meanwhile, I'm over here on the other side with RFK, Tulsi Gabbard and a record number of black, Latino, and Union voters that are about to hand the Democrat Party the largest loss they've ever seen in a majority of living American's lifetimes*.

Tick Tock




* According to CNN the majority of Americans were under 40 years old as of 2020:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/us/millennials-outnumber-boomers-trnd/i
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The 100 Worst Things Trump Has Done

https://newrepublic.com/article/187252/trump-100-worst-things-list-201
5-2024

Samples from the list:

97. Greenland With Envy

We can’t believe we have to explain this, but Greenland is neither a private island nor up for sale. At 836,330 square miles, it is the biggest island in the world, one that exists within the Kingdom of Denmark but which is also largely autonomous. Nonetheless, President Trump was obsessed with the idea of buying Greenland. “I strongly hope that this is not meant seriously,” Mette Frederiksen, Denmark’s prime minister, said in 2019. By that point in Trump’s delirious presidency, we Americans knew better.

2. A Pandemic of MAGA Stupidity

Where to start? On February 26, 2020, there were 15 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the United States that were related to travel or close contact to travelers in the U.S.—“and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,” Trump promised. From February to the end of October, he would make similar promises at least 37 more times. He also suggested injecting bleach to kill the virus, or hitting “the body with a tremendous … ultraviolet or just very powerful light.” He expressed skepticism of masks. He admitted to journalist Bob Woodward that he knew Covid was “deadly stuff” but wanted to “play it down.” He held superspreader rallies that led to 30,000 more cases. By the time Trump left office in early 2021, the virus had killed more than 400,000 people in the U.S.—and 40 percent of those deaths, a major study later found, could have been prevented.—R.K.

1. A Day That Lives in Infamy—or So We Hope

President Trump’s speech at the Ellipse on January 6, 2021, began, as his speeches often do, with a lie: “We have hundreds of thousands of people here.” He would also lie about the 2020 election, claiming there was massive fraud and that he didn’t lose. But on this day, such bluster would be the least of Trump’s offenses, as he ended his speech vowing to “fight like hell” and imploring the crowd to walk with him down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol—“to try and give [Republicans] the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.” The crowd obeyed, of course, and so began the first attempted coup in U.S. history, which would leave thousands traumatized, hundreds injured, and several dead. Never forget, truly.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Trump expands his list of "enemies from within" at Madison Square Garden rally

Trump pointed to political rivals, the press and an "amorphous" Them in a paranoid hometown stump speech

By Alex Galbraith | October 27, 2024 9:08PM (EDT)

https://www.salon.com/2024/10/27/expands-his-list-of-enemies-from-with
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"We're running against something far bigger than Joe or Kamala, and far more powerful than them. It is a massive, vicious, crooked radical-left machine that runs today's Democrat party," he said, before diving briefly into a shadow government conspiracy. "They're just vessels for ... this amorphous group of people."

Trump again targeted the press, calling them "the real enemy of the people" while pointing them out in the crowd.

While Republicans have run cover for him, trying to distance the candidate from his words, Trump did suggest calling in the military on political dissenters after his election.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) forcefully defended Donald Trump’s vow to use the U.S. military against certain Americans, a group Trump has repeatedly labeled “the enemy from within.”

Across several television interviews that aired Sunday, Vance also dismissed former Trump White House chief of staff John F. Kelly’s warnings that the former president meets the definition of a fascist. Vance described Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general, as a “disgruntled employee.”

He also disputed former vice president Mike Pence’s contention that Trump forced him to choose between loyalty to the Constitution and loyalty to Trump himself.

In a contentious exchange with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Vance said he would support the deployment of troops against what he and Trump have described as “left-wing lunatics,” which he argued is what Trump meant by “the enemy from within.”

He contended that Trump didn’t mean to include Democratic lawmakers such as Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff in the group of Americans against whom he would use military force — even though the former president has repeatedly used the phrase “left-wing lunatics” to describe both of them. Schiff served on the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, and Pelosi was a longtime House speaker.

Tapper read Vance a quote Trump gave during an interview with podcaster Joe Rogan that aired Friday, during which Trump said “an enemy from within” American politics poses a bigger danger to the country than North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

In a separate interview on “Meet the Press,” Vance said he agreed with Trump’s remark to Rogan that people like Schiff and Pelosi pose a greater threat to the United States than Russia or China do.

“What he said — and I do agree with this — what he said is that the biggest threat we have in our country, it’s not a foreign adversary, because we can handle these guys,” Vance said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-defends-trump-on-using-u
-s-military-against-americans/ar-AA1t1CJj

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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EDITED FOR REVISIONS ON NEWER NUMBERS LATER IN THE DAY, SEVERAL HOURS AFTER THE INITIAL POST.

OOPS. Probably should have figured we'd have new data later on Monday after the weekend.

SPOILER ALERT: It got better for Trump in the afternoon.


On this day in History, October 28th:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Trump +0.2000Biden +7.5000Clinton0 +4.6
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.3000Biden +6.4000Clinton0 +6.0
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +3.8000Clinton0 +5.0
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.0000Trump +0.6000Trump000 +1.3
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.1000Biden +8.6000Clinton +7.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.5000Biden +2.2000Clinton0 +1.5
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.7000Biden +4.6000Clinton 0+1.6
North Carolina00Trump0 +0.8000Biden +0.7000Clinton 0+3.0
Georgia000000000Trump0 +2.3000Biden +0.0000Trump000 +2.5
Florida000000000Trump0 +8.4000Biden +0.0000Clinton0 +0.5

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.7
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.7
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +4.3
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.4
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.7
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.7
Nevada:00000000 Trump +5.3
North Carolina: Trump +1.5
Georgia:0000000 Trump +2.3
Florida:0000000 Trump +8.4

And here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2016...

National:000000 Trump +4.8
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.4
Pennsylvania:00

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No reason to believe Jack, signym and Trump will what?

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'No reason to believe Trump will stop lying' about election

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Originally posted by THG:
No reason to believe Jack, signym and Trump will what?

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Read that sentence to yourself.

Now write it again in English so people know what you're talking about.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

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Why Major Newspapers Won’t Endorse Kamala Harris

By Robert Greene | October 28, 2024

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/10/non-endorsement-wash
ington-post-la-times/680423/

In this extremely tight presidential race, the big surprise of the fall campaign has turned out to be the failure of two major newspapers to deliver expected endorsements of Kamala Harris and against Donald Trump. With voting well under way in many states, the Los Angeles Times’ owner and The Washington Post’s publisher made inexcusably late announcements that they had become suddenly disenchanted with the entire notion of endorsing presidential candidates.

Withholding support for Harris after everything that both newspapers have reported about Trump’s manifest unfitness for office looks to me like plain cowardice. Although I served on the Los Angeles Times’ editorial board for 18 years, I believe one can reasonably question the value of endorsements. Still, the timing here invites speculation that these papers are preparing for a possible Trump victory by signaling a willingness to accommodate the coming administration rather than resist it.

At each paper, the editorial board had readied a draft or outline of a Harris endorsement and was waiting (and waiting and waiting) for final approval. On Wednesday, the L.A. Times editorials editor, Mariel Garza, told her team, including me, that the owner, Patrick Soon-Shiong, would not permit any endorsement to run. She then resigned in protest.

As thousands of angry Times readers canceled their subscriptions, Soon-Shiong publicly claimed on X to have asked the editorial board to write an analysis of “all the POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE policies by EACH candidate” during their respective White House tenures. But he said the board “chose to remain silent.”

Nonsense. We made no such choice. We were ready to endorse Harris, and Soon-Shiong’s post on X was the first time I or my fellow editorial writers had heard anything about a side-by-side analysis. Having been so casually thrown under the bus, I resigned Thursday. My colleague Karin Klein also announced that she would step down.

On Friday, the Post publisher and CEO, William Lewis, published a statement that his paper, too, would not endorse in the presidential race, now or ever again. A member of the Post editorial board resigned. Subscribers canceled.

Read: Don’t cancel The Washington Post. Cancel Amazon Prime.

Remember, this is the same news organization that, during the first Trump administration, adopted the slogan “Democracy dies in darkness.” It can also die in broad daylight. In this year’s race, a non-choice ignores Trump’s singular unfitness for office, demonstrated time and again through his dishonesty, his false claims to have won the 2020 election, his criminal convictions, his impeachable offenses, his race-baiting, his threats of retaliation against his opponents, and many other features that make him a danger to the nation.

Lewis and Soon-Shiong both explained that they wanted to let voters make their own decisions.

I hear some version of that irritating statement every four years, although it typically comes from readers who ask why editorial boards don’t just deliver the facts, the way news stories are supposed to, leaving judgment up to readers. Publishers and newspaper owners ought to know better.

Editorials express a newspaper’s institutional viewpoint, based on a clearly articulated set of values and expressed by logical (and sometimes emotional) arguments supported by evidence. In a process unique in journalism, they are shaped by daily back-and-forth discussions among editorial writers. The editorial board is separate from the newsroom, where reporters are supposed to keep their opinions to themselves.

Endorsements and other editorials are a lot like a lawyer’s closing argument to a jury after a long trial with numerous witnesses and exhibits. They remind readers of everything they’ve read, seen, and heard, and then they assemble it all in a persuasive presentation. They make

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Worst. Nazi. Rally. Ever.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/27/worst-nazi-rally-ever-n49
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Well, the rally took place Sunday night, and boy, talk about the worst Nazi rally ever! In addition to the diverse speakers at the event, a black woman sang the national anthem.

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And clearly, Jews didn't get the memo that this was a "Nazi rally."

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You two are a couple of fuckin' idiots.

America hates Democrats.

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Trump’s Madison Square Garden Rally Was a Pageant of Lowbrow Fascism, and It Wasn’t Even Funny

The Garden hosted a Nazi rally in 1939. Let’s remember that the lesser of two evils is still evil.

By Charles P. Pierce | Oct 28, 2024 11:53 AM EDT

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a62735267/trump-msg-ral
ly/

NEW YORK—And at the end of the day, all that was proven was that these people can’t even be fascists with any kind of dignity. In February 1939, with World War II having already begun at the Marco Polo Bridge two years earlier (although nobody knew it at the time) and seven months before the Wehrmacht rolled into Poland, there was a famous rally in the old Madison Square Garden held in concert with the German-American Bund and the isolationist America First crowd. The latter was insignificant. It was a Nazi rally.

And what a spectacle it was. There was a thirty-foot high portrait of the birthday boy, George Washington, framed by swastikas. (“The first American fascist,” declared Bund leader Fritz Kuhn). There were drum and bugle corps. There was thunder and lightning from the podium. There were twenty-two thousand people giving the Nazi salute on cue. And as a backhanded tribute, outside the Garden, one hundred thousand counter-protesters gathered ready to throw hands against the Nazis. One of them, a plumber named Isadore Greenbaum, actually made it to the stage, interrupting Kuhn’s speech and being beaten within an inch of his life by the OD, Kuhn’s equivalent of Hitler’s SS. Greenbaum survived his mauling but got arrested for disorderly conduct. There was a sense of the epic, both inside and outside the Garden. You could feel the world turning toward darkness.

On Sunday, at the current Madison Square Garden, there was Hulk Hogan, in a pink feather boa.

There was Dr. Phil, droning on and on about how the former president* was not a bully. There was Rudy Giuliani, half out of his mind, shouting about how the Democratic ticket was “in with the terrorists,” before perhaps going backstage to ask Robert Kennedy Jr. if he could crash on his couch for a few days. There was Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House of Representatives, talking about the Republican respect for the rule of law while, later, the candidate himself talked about how he and Johnson “had a little secret” that he would tell us about after the election. This could be pure bluff, or it could be the opening round in a Republican attempt to ratf*ck the certification process. In either case, the former president* put Johnson on the hook for good.

In 1939, there was Fritz Kuhn, inveighing against President “Rosenfelt” and Governor Thomas “Jewey,” to thunderous applause. In 2024, there was a podcast comedian named Tony Hinchcliffe, telling the audience that there was an island of garbage floating in the ocean and it was called “Puerto Rico,” to gales of laughter, and gaining the instant infamy that is the highest form of street cred in the MAGA movement. In 1939, at the conclusion of Kuhn’s speech, twenty thousand people chanted, “Free America!” In 2024, nineteen thousand people cheered along as the soulless husk that once was Tucker Carlson told them that Kamala Harris was going to be “the first Samoan-Malaysian, low-IQ former California prosecutor ever to be elected president.”

I do not minimize the danger inherent in next Tuesday’s election. I lived through one Trump administration*. I would prefer not to have to live through the live-action adventure Trump Unchained. But Lord above, these people are not only reckless, they are comical lightweights, right up to their Dear Leader. They are burlesque authoritarians. The 1939 rally was a Wagnerian opera in a world on the brink of war. This was a grandiose version of a drive-time radio talk show where Joe on the car phone worries that his son is going to come home from third grade as his daughter. In 1939, the Garden was filled with Americans who pledged their fealty to a leader half a world away who was already building his concentration camps. This was a gathering of Americans w

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