The Twisters Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 24, 2024 09:18
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Seems the YouTubers that are clearly on the right are wrong about this movie too.
Apolitical 'Twisters' Makes BANK at the Box OFfice. Media is CONFUSED.
Bruce is now saying that with previews included, Universal has projected an $80 Million opening weekend in the US.
That's all well and good, but if the international take isn't another $80 Million (including the $10 Million it made a week before the US release that doesn't count), this doesn't have a chance of breaking even. If it makes between $80 Million and $119 Million internationally, it's about a coin flip whether it breaks even or not.
I think it's a real shame how short-term everyone's memory is. People reporting on the "success" of Twisters today should know better given the $200 Million budget of this movie. All they talked about last year was budgets.
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Dead on Arrival?
Thailand less than 1 Million, $780K
Mexico launched with $3.3M
Australia whipped up $2.5M,
Profits might get eaten up by Fly Me to the Moon, Wolverine and Deadpool, The Exorcism, Space Cadet, Beverly Hills Cop Axel F, Saving Bikini Bottom The Sandy Cheeks Movie, Borderlanders, Alliens remake Romulus, The Bikeriders, Despicable Me 4, a conest with another cheaper remake A Quiet Place Day One
TWISTERS | 11.0M overseas | 11.0M worldwide
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32296-twisters-110m-overseas-
110m-worldwide/
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Dead on Arrival?
I like this post from "Firepower" in that thread:
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The movie simply lacks any relatability to most people overseas and it doesn't have strong enough spectacle to overcome that. Idiots chasing twisters and tornadoes with high tech for fun and then being surprised it's dangerous when they are already inside is not something particularly exciting or very interesting.
It was interesting once. 28 years ago.
*yawn*
I'm looking forward to EVERYONE eating crow on this movie.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm looking forward to EVERYONE eating crow on this movie.
DEADLINE: ‘Twisters’ Swirls To $123M Global
https://deadline.com/2024/07/twisters-despicable-me-4-inside-out-2-glo
bal-international-box-office-1236016844/
Given an $80M+ domestic opening and a one-week head start in 37 international markets? That's fucking pathetic.
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The global cume, largely boosted by domestic’s heartland turnout this weekend, is now $123.2M. Universal has domestic rights and Warner is handling overseas where $27.1M was wrangled from 76 markets this frame. That’s after early release in 38 markets last session. This weekend saw a 30% drop overall overseas, for a $42.7M offshore cume.
I said in the last post that despite the higher than expected US/Canada gross, it was going to need $80 Million internationally, including the $10 Million that it got from early showings internationally last weekend, just to put it in the position of a coin-flip that it wouldn't lose money for Universal. It has now only made $42.7 Million internationally, including last weekend.
This movie is finished. There is no a ZERO percent chance it comes within $100 Million of the half a billion it needs to break even.
I'm just waiting to see which outfit is going to be the first to come out and tell the truth about it.
Because as far as I can tell, the only ones telling the truth about it from all sides of the political spectrum now are me and some random posters on the boxofficetheory board, courtesy of Janyez's link drop above.
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‘Twisters’ review: Dilemmas, a hint of romance but mostly one tornado after another
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/twisters-review-dilemmas-hint-roma
nce-200000793.html
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I'm going to have to eat some poo here, it's a major hit. May help Dodge Truck sales
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Some better numbers but still suffering the movie struggles to make profit
it can't be as bad as The Flash, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, The Matrix Resurrections, Space Jam remake, The Marvels, Black Adam or can it?
Box office at least $100+ million combined US Domestic and Overseas
China Box Office: ‘Twisters’ Is Blown Away as ‘Successor’ Enjoys $89 Million Weekend
https://www.thetechedvocate.org/china-box-office-twisters-is-blown-awa
y-as-successor-enjoys-89-million-weekend/
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I'm going to have to eat some poo here, it's a major hit. May help Dodge Truck sales
Define hit.
The media, from all sides, is either straight up lying about this or is straight up ignorant of how money works. I'm sure some are a little of Column A and a little of Column B.
Don't worry about it. You were right. This one still loses at least $100 Million for Universal. My honest guess is that it loses over $200 Million for Universal. Nobody outside of America seems to give a shit about it.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Some better numbers but still suffering the movie struggles to make profit
it can't be as bad as The Flash, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, The Matrix Resurrections, Space Jam remake, The Marvels, Black Adam or can it?
I'd have to look into the numbers of Resurrections, Space Jam 2 and even Black Adam over again to speak to those, but it will not be as big of a failure os The Marvels or The Flash. It would literally be impossible for it to ever be as bad as Indy 5 simply because only Disney is insane enough to put a $345 Million production budget on a movie.
Without looking at the others on your list that I mentioned, it probably behaves the most like The Flash. That movie also had a $200 Million budget, but only grossed $266.5 Million.
Twisters made $124.7 Million worldwide opening weekend, minus the $11 Million or so it had already made overseas in 37 territories the weekend before.
So it made 62.4% of its production budget on opening weekend (when generously including the $11 Million from the weekend before).
Only one movie did numbers like that in 2024 and ended up coming back and making money. That was Universals kids movie "Migration".
Like the rest of the media, Bruce continues to lie about the financial success of Twisters...
Twisters hits blockbuster territory with $80-million opening
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/257270830-Weekend-projections-Twister
s-hits-blockbuster-territory-with-80-million-opening
Box office at least $100+ million combined US Domestic and Overseas
Yeah Bruce... You forgot the part where even with a one week $11 Million international head start it only has garnered $43.5 Million internationally.
And look at this dumb shit he wrote at the end...
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Our model expects Twisters to make $214 million domestically, based on its opening weekend performance, but there’s obviously a lot of uncertainty in that prediction (anything between $170 million and $410 million would be within the margin of error). So it’ll be interesting to see how the next week or two goes for the movie.
Your model has a margin of error so wide that a $214 Million prediction on your part could fluctuate $44 Million down or up to $196 Million higher??????
First off, if you were a political strategist you'd be 10 times worse than Nate Silver is at his job with those numbers. Pick any random weather man and they could make better predictions on the final number of Twisters than you apparently can.
Secondly, that's got to be a string of typos because it doesn't even make any sense. That's not how the margin of error works. For example, +/-4% means the number could end up 4% lower or 4% higher than the number you're sticking with.
The number you're sticking with now is $214 Million. $170 Million would be -20.6% of that. $410 Million would be an increase of 91.6% of your chosen number.
WTF, Bruce?
Make this make sense.
To go beyond that, let's work with that $214 Million domestic total number Bruce put out there and disregard his nonsensical margin of error claims.
Currently, even with that one week international head start in half of the countries that are showing it now, the International Take has only been 34.9% of the Domestic box office.
34.9% of $214 Million is $74.7 Million. (Which it may not even get because, again, about 1/4 of that International box office was from the week long head start).
That's $289 Million worldwide on a $200 Million budget.
It needed $500 Million to break even.
So if Bruce's $214 Million Domestic total has any merit to it and the international market maintains equilibrium or even goes down, my statement above that this behaves the most like The Flash will be correct. Both movies needed half a billion to break even, and both movies would have made under $300 Million while only being about $23 Million apart from each other in total worldwide grosses.
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Jonathan Romney at Literary Review:
Twisters, with a budget estimated at $200 million, is that enduring Hollywood paradox: the blockbuster that uses capitalism as shorthand for moral corruption. We know from the start that Javi’s business is compromised just by seeing its natty corporate graphics. (It would be interesting to know the costs for the logoed Twisters T-shirts worn by the ushers at the London premiere.)
The film contains one nice trick for cinephiles. In a small-town cinema which briefly serves as a storm shelter, the film being projected is the 1931 Frankenstein, in which Colin Clive’s Promethean scientist attempts to domesticate the raging elements. Eventually, the cinema’s back wall and screen are ripped away, revealing the tempest outside – prompting us to forget movie spectacle for a moment and attend to the real. Indeed, throughout, we’re reminded that the true mission of Kate and co is not adventure but to protect people from messed-up nature (climate change is the subtext) and to help them when things get rough. The most memorable imagery in Twisters does not involve chaos and fury but the aftermath of tornado strikes – whole towns flattened to sprawling fields of debris, one of them inscribed with a zigzag, as if the tornado has carved its signature there, Zorro-style.
more here. https://literaryreview.co.uk/eyes-of-the-storm
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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