President Trump Judged GUILTY Of . . . . well, something. But Nobody Knows What.
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UPDATED: Saturday, June 8, 2024 10:41
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Prosecution refused to inform Defense of any Charges before Fake Showtrial.
Refused to announce any Charges during the Fake Showtrial.
Until after The Defense rested it's case - then Prosecution told the Jury what Charges they had dreamt up.
But then the Corrupt Judge instructed the jury to ignore all that. If one juror thought there was guilt of one charge, and another felt guilt of another Charge, and another juror thought Trump was a meanie, and another didn't like his hair color, then that was good enough to paste together a conviction.
So now nobody knows what, if any, Charges he was judged to be guilty of.
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Results?
Trump Campaign website crashed due to volume - over $35 M contributed in the 20 hours following "Guilty" announcement.
RNC Donation site also crashed due to volume.
Sen Joe Manchion announced he is switching from Democrap to Independent.
So Senate is now 49 Republicans and 47 Democraps, with 4 independents. If GOP Senators develop a spine, some work could get done.
Every Impeachment must be Tried in the same session of Congress, not carried over to the next Session. So all of the current Impeachments pending Senate Trial should be able to get tried, convicted, and removed.
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Quote:Trump would not have been in court if he had written one check out of his personal bank account rather than dozens of checks out of the corporate account, but Trump had to cheat on his corporate taxes by having his corporation pay his personal expenses.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So now nobody knows what, if any, Charges he was judged to be guilty of.
On top of that, it was an illegal campaign contribution for his corporation to do that, besides cheating on NY corporate taxes.
Stupidly, after being caught, Trump lied about not having sex with that woman, lied about why the checks were written, lied about everything, which irritated the hell out of the jury because Trump's constant lying was wasting weeks and weeks of the jurors' time as the prosecutors meticulously proved Trump lied about all facts in this case. (Trump's clever retort? "Believe me! I'm telling the truth. You're the liar!")
To prove beyond a doubt that Trump was lying, Trump and his lawyers kept on lying during the trial, excluding his lying before the trial, which was a further waste of time for everybody involved. If Trump had testified, as he promised, there would be a new trial for Trump's perjury if he repeated under oath the same lies he was speaking to reporters when he wasn't in the courtroom.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Jurors don't need to believe the witnesses to convict Trump.
Here are 10 stand-alone pieces of evidence that practically speak for themselves.
The evidence is on display at
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hush-money-trial-jurors-smoking-
gun-cohen-stormy-daniels-2024-5
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Total non-issue, and it will be overturned eventually.
Can't wait for debate night.
Tick Tock
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President. 
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Quote:The Cases Against Trump: A Guide
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Total non-issue, and it will be overturned eventually.
Can't wait for debate night.
Tick Tock
By David A. Graham | May 31, 2024, 12:49 PM ET
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/donald-trump-legal-c
ases-charges/675531/
In addition to the conviction in Manhattan, Trump faces 57 more felony counts across one state court and two different federal districts, any of which could potentially produce a prison sentence. He also lost a civil suit in New York that could hobble his business empire, as well as a pair of large defamation judgments. Meanwhile, he is the presumptive Republican nominee for president. His legal fate is being litigated at the same time that his political future is before voters.
Here’s a summary of the major legal cases against Trump, including key dates, an assessment of the gravity of the charges, and expectations about how they could turn out. This guide will be updated regularly as the cases proceed.
New York State: Fraud
In the fall of 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil suit against Trump, his adult sons, and his former aide Allen Weisselberg, alleging a years-long scheme in which Trump fraudulently reported the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, all with an eye toward inflating his net worth.
When?
Justice Arthur Engoron ruled on February 16 that Trump must pay $355 million plus interest, the calculated size of his ill-gotten gains from fraud. The judge had previously ruled against Trump and his co-defendants in late September 2023, concluding that many of the defendants’ claims were “clearly” fraudulent—so clearly that he didn’t need a trial to hear them.
How grave was the allegation?
Fraud is fraud, and in this case, the sum of the fraud stretched into the hundreds of millions—but compared with some of the other legal matters in which Trump is embroiled, this is a little pedestrian. The case was also civil rather than criminal. But although the stakes are lower for the nation, they remain high for Trump: The size of the penalty appears to be larger than Trump can easily pay, and he also faces a three-year ban on operating his company.
What happens now?
Trump has appealed the case. On March 25, the day he was supposed to post bond, an appeals court reduced the amount he must post from more than $464 million to $175 million. He must appeal by this summer.
Manhattan: Defamation and Sexual Assault
Although these other cases are all brought by government entities, Trump also faced a pair of defamation suits from the writer E. Jean Carroll, who said that Trump sexually assaulted her in a department-store dressing room in the 1990s. When he denied it, she sued him for defamation and later added a battery claim.
When?
In May 2023, a jury concluded that Trump had sexually assaulted and defamed Carroll, and awarded her $5 million. A second defamation case produced an $83.3 million judgment in January 2024.
How grave was the allegation?
Although these cases didn’t directly connect to the same fundamental issues of rule of law and democratic governance that some of the criminal cases do, they were a serious matter, and a federal judge’s blunt statement that Trump raped Carroll has gone underappreciated.
What happens now?
Trump has appealed both cases, and he posted bond for the $83.3 million in March. During the second trial, he also continued to insult Carroll, which may have courted additional defamation suits.
Manhattan: Hush Money
In March 2023, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg became the first prosecutor to bring felony charges against Trump, alleging that the former president falsified business records as part of a scheme to pay hush money to women who said they’d had sexual relationships with Trump.
When? The trial began on April 15 and ended with a May 30 conviction. Sentencing is scheduled for July 11.
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Quote:Trump said it best: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's, like, incredible."
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Total non-issue, and it will be overturned eventually.
Can't wait for debate night.
Tick Tock
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-tr
ump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters
Conservatives like Trump because of his character
Conservatives might like Trump on policy grounds, but they could get exactly the same policy from nearly any Republican. What sets Trump apart is his character. This is why his fans like him. His character. Donald Trump has:
• Been convicted of covering up an affair with a porn star.
• Been caught on tape bragging about grabbing pussies.
• Lied about President Obama wiretapping him.
• Tried to extort the president of Ukraine into digging up dirt on a political opponent.
• Worked tirelessly to illegally overthrow an election he lost.
• Promised to pardon the violent protesters who attacked the Capitol on January 6.
• Been found liable for sexual assault.
• Lied relentlessly about matters big and small.
• Claimed many of the world's worst autocrats as friends.
• Cheated customers of "Trump University" out of millions of dollars.
• Been fined nearly $500 million for business fraud.
• Fired an FBI director for refusing to end an investigation into his campaign.
• Been ordered to shut his charitable foundation and pay restitution for repeated self-dealing and legal violations.
• Pocketed millions of dollars from foreign interests staying at his hotels.
• Promoted dangerous quack "cures" for COVID-19.
• Baselessly claimed that Ted Cruz's father was associated with the Kennedy assassination.
• Said that soldiers who are wounded or die in war are suckers and losers.
Trump oozes "character" out of every pore and orifice on his body.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Trump Has Few Ways to Overturn His Conviction as a New York Felon
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Total non-issue, and it will be overturned eventually.
New York appellate courts rarely overturn a jury decision without evidence of serious errors. The judge in Donald J. Trump’s case closed off many avenues.
By Ben Protess, William K. Rashbaum and Jonah E. Bromwich | June 1, 2024, 3:00 a.m. ET
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/01/nyregion/trump-appeal-conviction.ht
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“This is long from over,” Donald J. Trump, the former president and current felon, declared on Thursday, moments after a Manhattan jury convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying records to cover up a sex scandal.
Mr. Trump, the first American president to be branded a criminal, is banking on the jury not having the final word on his legal fate or his political fortunes. He will now appeal, both to a higher court and the American people, seeking to contain the fallout as he campaigns for the White House.
But even if the former — and possibly future — president persuades voters to toss his conviction aside, the appellate courts might not be so sympathetic.
Although Mr. Trump proclaimed at a news conference on Friday that he had plenty of ammunition to overturn what he called “this scam,” several legal experts cast doubt on his chances of success, and noted that the case could take years to snake through the courts.
And so, after a five-year investigation and a seven-week trial, Mr. Trump’s New York legal odyssey is only beginning, all but ensuring he will still be a felon when voters head to the polls in November.
The former president’s supporters are calling on the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene, though that is highly unlikely. In a more likely appeal to a New York court, Mr. Trump would have avenues to attack the conviction, the experts said, but far fewer than he has claimed. The experts noted that the judge, whose rulings helped shape the case, stripped some of the prosecution’s most precarious arguments and evidence from the trial.
The appeal will be a referendum on the judge, Juan M. Merchan, who steered the trial through political and legal minefields even as Mr. Trump hurled invective at him and his family. Justice Merchan, a no-nonsense former prosecutor, said that he was keenly aware “and protective of” Mr. Trump’s rights, including his right to “defend himself against political attacks.”
Mark Zauderer, a veteran New York litigator who sits on a committee that screens applicants for the same court that will hear Mr. Trump’s appeal, said that Justice Merchan avoided pitfalls that often doom convictions.
“This case has none of the usual red flags for reversal on appeal,” Mr. Zauderer said. “The judge’s demeanor was flawless.”
Even if Justice Merchan’s rulings provide little fodder, Mr. Trump could challenge the foundation of the prosecution’s case. Mr. Trump’s lawyers note that Alvin L. Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, used a novel theory to charge Mr. Trump with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.
In New York, that crime is a misdemeanor, unless the records were faked to conceal another crime. To elevate the charges to felonies, Mr. Bragg argued that Mr. Trump had falsified the records to cover up violations of a little-known state law against conspiring to win election by “unlawful means.”
Mr. Trump’s conspiracy occurred during his first run for the White House. When Mr. Trump arranged to buy and bury damaging stories about his sex life, including a porn star’s story of a tryst, he was trying to influence the 2016 election, Mr. Bragg said.
In an appeal, Mr. Trump’s lawyers are expected to argue that Mr. Bragg inappropriately stretched the state election law — a convoluted one, at that — to cover a federal campaign. And they could claim that the false records law itself does not apply to Mr. Trump’s case.
“I certainly don’t think there has been a prosecution of falsifying business records like this one,” said Barry Kamins, a retired judge and e
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Ivanka Trump breaks silence after guilty verdict
by Judy Kurtz - 05/31/24 9:10 AM ET
“I love you dad,” the message said, with a throwback photo of Trump’s eldest daughter as a toddler posing with her father.
Her older brother, Donald Trump, Jr., had a different reaction to their father’s guilty verdict.
“Such bulls---,” he wrote on the social platform X.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4695917-ivanka-trump-guilty-verd
ict-new-york-hush-money-trial/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Nobody cares.
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Trump will be fine.
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Quote:Trump is a Rorschach test. Either you see America's savior or a convicted felon. Nobody sees both when they look at Trump.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody cares.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's, like, incredible." Trumptards are, like, incredibly defective.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump is a Rorschach test. Either you see America's savior or a convicted felon. Nobody sees both when they look at Trump.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody cares.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's, like, incredible." Trumptards are, like, incredibly defective.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Don't put your bullshit neurosis on me. Trump isn't a savior.
He's also not a convicted felon either, and the court case was a sham that will be overturned.
Trump will win the election though. Easily.
And Joe Biden* is about to be destroyed on the world stage in that first debate.
Tick Tock
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TYT: Trump Campaign Rakes in SERIOUS CASH after guilty verdict
Trump just got $34 Million for his 34 "felonies"
You want to see something creepy? Watch what Joe Biden* did when he was doing his regular walking off the stage to avoid any questions after reading the teleprompter when he was asked by a reporter "Donald Trump refers to himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly. What is your response to that, Sir?" at 0:36 on the second video.
If that look doesn't let you know the evil that's unfolding right now, there's no hope for you.
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Lately I have run across some profoundly stupid people. They seem to believe that everything M$M tells them is true - they have no clue about facts. They claim that Trump was actually charged with felonies, even though he was only charged with misdemeanors - the same acts repeated 11 times. Like when you pay your bills with a check from your checkbook - 11 bills.
Even the likes of abc - despite George Steponallofus - accidentally let slip some facts. But they kept out the part of Columbian Juan Merchan being "acting judge" along with his appointment as Family Court Judge.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-hush-money-trial-draws-close-jury-inst
ructions/story?id=110547249
As Trump hush money trial draws to a close, jury instructions to play key role
"I can't overemphasize the importance of the judge's instructions."
ByJulia Reinstein
May 28, 2024, 5:01 AM
Possible outcomes of Trump’s hush money trial
ABC News’ legal contributor Kan Nawaday explains the possible outcomes of Donald Trump’s histo...Show More
The criminal hush money trial against former President Donald Trump is drawing to a close, with deliberations expected to begin as early as Wednesday.
But before that can happen, a fundamental step must take place: the charging of the jury.
The charging -- or as it's also known, instructing -- of the jury is a standard procedural step in any jury trial, during which the judge advises jurors on how they should go about reaching their verdict. The judge will lay out the particulars of the law in question, often defining esoteric legal terminology, in order to guide the jury into an understanding of what would constitute a violation of said law.
Jurors are instructed on how to apply these guidelines to the evidence presented during trial -- which in this case, includes the testimony of 20 witnesses and over 250 exhibits -- to determine whether the prosecution has proven their case against the defendant.
How Judge Juan Merchan instructs the jury -- and how the jury understands those instructions -- will be critical to how this historic case is decided, experts told ABC News.
"I can't overemphasize the importance of the judge's instructions -- jurors cling very tightly to the roadmap the judge provides," Cheryl Bader, a professor at Fordham Law, told ABC News. "The verdict is not just a determination of what facts the jury believes, it is the intersection of facts and law together."
MORE: What are the potential outcomes of Trump's hush money trial?
In a pre-charge conference Tuesday, during which the prosecution and defense sparred over what should be included in jury instructions, Merchan said he would ensure the instructions were clear and comprehensible. "We want to make it as easy as possible for the jury," he said.
Merchan will instruct jurors that they must find Trump guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" in order to convict. As with any criminal case, the burden of proof lies with the prosecution -- meaning prosecutors must prove Trump is guilty, and the defense does not have to prove Trump's innocence.
Merchan is also likely to inform jurors that they must only consider evidence presented during the trial, and not allow bias or sympathy to sway their decision. They will also be instructed they cannot hold Trump's decision not to testify against him.
Trump is charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records -- a crime that can be tried as a misdemeanor, but may be elevated to a felony when the act was done in an effort to cover up an underlying crime. Prosecutors have suggested Trump violated election laws by concealing a hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in order to protect damaging information about himself from coming out ahead of the 2016 presidential race. Trump has pleaded not guilty and denied any wrongdoing.
The crime-within-a-crime nature of the felony charge means instructing the jury may be a complicated task. In a motion ear
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As far as i can tell it's a complete non-issue.
I've had conversations with pretty much anybody I ever talk to since it's happened, including most of my neighbors given the time of year that it is and the amount of time I've spent outside in the last week. The only person who's even brought it up is my old man, and that was just to see if I'd heard about, since both of us have been busier than usual recently and haven't talked much politics. We had a good laugh over it.
I can only imagine how much the middle class and rich Democrat voters have talked about it with everybody in their echo chamber though. Whatever that answer is, they'd say that it wasn't enough.
So really... what's changed?
Nothing.
The people who haven't stopped talking about Trump every day of the year since 2016 get to talk about Trump some more every day. Everybody who wasn't already obsessing over him will go right no not obsessing about him.
*yawn*
Wake me up when June 27th comes so I can watch one old white man verbally destroy another old white man with dementia in front of the entire world.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You want to see something creepy? Watch what Joe Biden* did when he was doing his regular walking off the stage to avoid any questions after reading the teleprompter when he was asked by a reporter "Donald Trump refers to himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly. What is your response to that, Sir?" at 0:36 on the second video.
If that look doesn't let you know the evil that's unfolding right now, there's no hope for you.
Looks like Axios realizes how bad a look that was for Joe Biden.
Biden smile on Trump's 'political prisoner' claim makes campaign video
Like, fuckin' hell dude. That whole exchange was cartoon levels of mustache-twirling, James Bond Villain evil.
What the fuck is wrong with Joe Biden*? You'd expect that twisted reaction out of Hillary Clinton, sure, but I don't think anybody at the Joe Biden* campaign was smiling when they saw their meat popsicle do that.
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Trump will be fine.
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Quote:I already heard days ago folk say that should be put on a loop.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You want to see something creepy? Watch what Joe Biden* did when he was doing his regular walking off the stage to avoid any questions after reading the teleprompter when he was asked by a reporter "Donald Trump refers to himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly. What is your response to that, Sir?" at 0:36 on the second video.
If that look doesn't let you know the evil that's unfolding right now, there's no hope for you.
Looks like Axios realizes how bad a look that was for Joe Biden.
Biden smile on Trump's 'political prisoner' claim makes campaign video
Like, fuckin' hell dude. That whole exchange was cartoon levels of mustache-twirling, James Bond Villain evil.
What the fuck is wrong with Joe Biden*? You'd expect that twisted reaction out of Hillary Clinton, sure, but I don't think anybody at the Joe Biden* campaign was smiling when they saw their meat popsicle do that.
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Quote:New poll shows Trump and Obiden in dead heat in VA.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Results?
Trump Campaign website crashed due to volume - over $35 M contributed in the 20 hours following "Guilty" announcement.
RNC Donation site also crashed due to volume.
Sen Joe Manchion announced he is switching from Democrap to Independent.
So Senate is now 49 Republicans and 47 Democraps, with 4 independents. If GOP Senators develop a spine, some work could get done.
Every Impeachment must be Tried in the same session of Congress, not carried over to the next Session. So all of the current Impeachments pending Senate Trial should be able to get tried, convicted, and removed.
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