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Saturday, January 13, 2024 12:07 AM

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Dennis Unkovic breaks down the impact of the Taiwan elections on China relations





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Saturday, January 13, 2024 12:16 AM

That's what? a Serbian-Jew-Russian with multiple citizenships pretending to be an expert on Chinese...no thanks




China Unveils Plans For The Biggest Nuclear-Powered Cargo Ship Ever
https://www.2oceansvibe.com/2024/01/10/subchina-unveils-plans-for-the-
biggest-nuclear-powered-cargo-ship-ever
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Saturday, January 13, 2024 3:58 AM

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Naval Power in the Pacific: China vs. The United States

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Saturday, January 13, 2024 4:03 AM

Repost, I think it is relevant.

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Saturday, January 13, 2024 12:59 PM

Agreements between China and the USA

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The first communiqué (February 28, 1972), known as the Shanghai Communiqué, summarizes the landmark dialogue begun by President Richard Nixon and Premier Zhou Enlai during February 1972. Some of the issues addressed in this communiqué include the two sides' views on Vietnam, the Korean Peninsula, India and Pakistan and the Kashmir region, and perhaps most importantly, the Taiwan (Republic of China) issue (i.e., Taiwan's political status). Essentially, both sides agreed to respect each other's national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States formally acknowledged that "all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China" and that the "United States Government does not challenge that position", and that it "reaffirms its interest in a peaceful settlement of the Taiwan question by the Chinese themselves".[2]

The second communiqué (January 1, 1979), the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, formally announces the commencement of normal relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. In so doing, the United States recognized that the government of the People's Republic of China was the sole legal government of China, and acknowledged the PRC's position that Taiwan is part of China.[3] In addition, the United States government declared that it would end formal political relations with the Republic of China ("Taiwan") while preserving economic and cultural ties. Both sides reaffirmed their wish to reduce the risk of international conflict as well as avoidance of hegemony of any nation in the Asia-Pacific region.

The third communiqué (August 17, 1982), also known as the August 17th communiqué,[4] reaffirms the desire of both sides to further strengthen economic, cultural, educational, scientific, and technological ties. Both sides also reaffirmed the statements made about the Taiwan issue in the previous communiqué. Although no definitive conclusions were reached on the issue of arms sale to Taiwan, the United States declared its intent to continue selling arms to Taiwan and to gradually change its level of arms sales consistent with the PRC's militarization of the Taiwan strait.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Communiqu%C3%A9s

SIX ASSURANCES (To Taiwan)


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“* * * [W]e did not agree to set a date certain for ending arms sales to Taiwan”;
“* * * [W]e see no mediation role for the United States” between Taiwan and the PRC;
“* * *[N]or will we attempt to exert pressure on Taiwan to enter into negotiations with the PRC”;
“* * * [T]here has been no change in our longstanding position on the issue of sovereignty over Taiwan”;
“We have no plans to seek” revisions to the Taiwan Relations Act; and
The August 17 Communiqué “should not be read to imply that we have agreed to engage in prior consultations with Beijing on arms sales to Taiwan”.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Assurances





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Saturday, January 13, 2024 4:02 PM

It's a product of post WW2

Nixon and the split between the Soviets and the Chinese

Before this Nationalism vs Communism, if the Nationalists won Beijing and Communists ran to China it would be Taiwan that would be seen as a type of 'enemy' and relations with the Mainland would have been better.

and hundreds of years before this
Taiwan seems to have had an Aboriginal culture with a tiny bit of Chinese or some Buddha guy from China or Emperor guy from China going on vacation long ago. An island with types of fish people living a basic life, the Taiwanese indigenous peoples, also old Formosans, Native Taiwanese, Austronesian Taiwanese or Gaoshan people. Then European powers in all their wisdom make it a Chinese colony and ethnically import thousands upon thousands of people from the South and South East of China to work in their mines lift stuff at the ports, the Dutch, the British, the Portuguese, back in the 1600s moving Chinese people into Taiwan, Europe made it Chinese, back then Taiwan but made by Chinaman. It wasn't awlays easy for Dutch Empires, the guys of Netherlands Holland making money, there was siege of the Fort, they promptly dismantled the Dutch colony, expelled the Dutch and established the Ming loyalist, anti-Qing Kingdom of Tungning. In 1874, Japan invades indigenous Taiwan territory in southern Taiwan in what is known as the Mudan Incident. Takasago volunteers were volunteer soldiers in the Imperial Japanese Army, recruited from Taiwanese indigenous peoples a period of More wars WW1 and then WW2 and Imperial Japan allied with Italy and Adolf Hitler for a while, they set up companies and a lot of the big company working in the background hidden in Taiwan are still Japan family. Taiwanese indigenous peoples still today will sometimes protest Japan War Crimes that were never recorded.
Well perhaps on the other side of all this, you get other fools like random Ruskies unsure if Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Alaska or Cuba or California or Texas should ever be part of the USA.


Biden: US does not support Taiwan independence
https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-us-does-not-support-taiwan-indepen
dence-2024-01-13
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Peter Zeihan is literally a stupid meme these days

THG you seem to think constantly posting old vids from this perverted moron makes you more 'intelligent' or something?

can you use your own brain for once and write your own words instead of posting George Friedman CI-Gay Stratfor GoldmanSachs-Texas videos of the homosexual pervert Zeihan

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China Has Years Left, Says Peter Zaihan




yes the homosexual that hangs out with Friedman has been saying that since the 90s, maybe by the Year 3 Thousand 500 his prediction might finally come true


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Shut up, Ted. You don't have close the the necessary IQ necessary to talk about 90% of the things you talk about here.



Here's the weird thing, journalism is so bad these days that even a Boozed out Pothead stoner like Joe Rogan can do good journalist reports...that's how far we have all fallen.


Some other words of wisdom from THG when not posting globalist homosexual vids

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Belarus doesn't have any Nukes. Nor, are they getting any.




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Our dependent relationship with China all began with Bill Clinton








Globalism and Outsourcing happened long before this, for a while they had everything 'Made In Taiwan' or 'Made In Japan' in a ways they had a little nationalism in the manufacturing hubs parts of Asia but when there was some pushing and shoving they usually gave in and bowed to America's wisdom... the other political options they seen were Vietcong and Mao, a miserable life. The Chinese learned fast, China does not play what it thinks is a rigged ball game, it plays on the Worl

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THG
Sunday, January 14, 2024 4:21 PM

What is your point? Your post favors my position regarding China and Taiwan. We acknowledge China claims Taiwan is a part of China. In clearer words, the United States recognizes China is one country, but we don't agree that Taiwan is a part of that country.

Again, you post nothing more than a word salad. You don't even stake out a position. You just cut and paste shit you clearly don't understand.

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To this day, the U.S. “one China” position stands: the United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China but only acknowledges the Chinese position that Taiwan is part of China.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-us-one-china-policy-and-why-does-it
-matter


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Agreements between China and the USA

Quote:

The first communiqué (February 28, 1972), known as the Shanghai Communiqué, summarizes the landmark dialogue begun by President Richard Nixon and Premier Zhou Enlai during February 1972. Some of the issues addressed in this communiqué include the two sides' views on Vietnam, the Korean Peninsula, India and Pakistan and the Kashmir region, and perhaps most importantly, the Taiwan (Republic of China) issue (i.e., Taiwan's political status). Essentially, both sides agreed to respect each other's national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States formally acknowledged that "all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China" and that the "United States Government does not challenge that position", and that it "reaffirms its interest in a peaceful settlement of the Taiwan question by the Chinese themselves".[2]

The second communiqué (January 1, 1979), the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, formally announces the commencement of normal relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. In so doing, the United States recognized that the government of the People's Republic of China was the sole legal government of China, and acknowledged the PRC's position that Taiwan is part of China.[3] In addition, the United States government declared that it would end formal political relations with the Republic of China ("Taiwan") while preserving economic and cultural ties. Both sides reaffirmed their wish to reduce the risk of international conflict as well as avoidance of hegemony of any nation in the Asia-Pacific region.

The third communiqué (August 17, 1982), also known as the August 17th communiqué,[4] reaffirms the desire of both sides to further strengthen economic, cultural, educational, scientific, and technological ties. Both sides also reaffirmed the statements made about the Taiwan issue in the previous communiqué. Although no definitive conclusions were reached on the issue of arms sale to Taiwan, the United States declared its intent to continue selling arms to Taiwan and to gradually change its level of arms sales consistent with the PRC's militarization of the Taiwan strait.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Communiqu%C3%A9s

SIX ASSURANCES (To Taiwan)


Quote:

“* * * [W]e did not agree to set a date certain for ending arms sales to Taiwan”;
“* * * [W]e see no mediation role for the United States” between Taiwan and the PRC;
“* * *[N]or will we attempt to exert pressure on Taiwan to enter into negotiations with the PRC”;
“* * * [T]here has been no change in our longstanding position on the issue of sovereignty over Taiwan”;
“We have no plans to seek” revisions to the Taiwan Relations Act; and
The August 17 Communiqué “should not be read to imply that we have agreed to engage in prior consultations with Beijing on arms sales to Taiwan”.


https://en.m.wikipedia.

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THG
Sunday, January 14, 2024 4:45 PM

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HONG KONG—China is sinking deeper into its worst deflation in years, spelling trouble for the whole world as demand falters in its second-largest economy.

With many Chinese worried about the economic outlook and unwilling to spend, consumer prices fell for a third straight month in December, official data showed Friday. Prices charged by manufacturers dropped for the 15th month in a row.

Economists at Morgan Stanley described the situation as the “longest and deepest” deflation in China since the Asian financial crisis in 1998, when countries across the region overheated and entered recessions that took years to recover from.

Until recently, many Western economists had welcomed some deflation in China, because it lowered the cost of imported Chinese goods, helping to ease inflationary pressures elsewhere. Inflation in the U.S. cooled through most of 2023, though it edged up some in December.

But as inflation worries have eased in the West, China’s deflation has become a bigger source of concern. It signals continuing economic distress in China, which could mean weaker sales for Western brands that do business there.

It also augurs more efforts by Chinese companies to unload excess goods elsewhere, competing with Western companies and exacerbating trade tensions, which are already high.

The European Union last fall accused China of flooding the market with cheap electric vehicles and launched an investigation into the role of state subsidies from China. Companies in other industries, including solar power, have raised similar concerns.

“Persistent deflation or very low inflation in China could contribute to a higher trade surplus and more trade frictions with the rest of the world,” said Adam Wolfe, emerging-markets economist at Absolute Strategy Research.

All of that is adding urgency for Beijing to increase efforts to reverse falling prices and revive growth. One worry is that without more forceful stimulus, China’s economy could fall into a debt-deflation spiral like Japan did in the 1990s, when falling prices prompted companies to cut wages and consumers to hold off on purchases, creating a vicious cycle of even weaker demand and more deflation.

“The size and speed of stimulus policy matters” in China, said Robin Xing, chief

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/deflation-worries-deepen-in-ch
ina/ar-AA1mQlj0?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8276c3772eef46a7c1309e3a68b1ba8d&ei=22




China is disposing of its surpluses with lower prices to stay afloat. It won't last.

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Price Wars Help Spark $157 Billion Rout in China Consumer Stocks

From electric vehicles to fast food, companies are engaging in a battle of promotions aimed at luring customers who are spooked by dim job prospects and have seen a persistent property slump hurt wealth creation. Consumer prices fell for a third-straight month in December, the longest streak since 2009, deepening concerns about companies’ profits and share prices.

“That’s all symbolic of a very weak consumption environment that includes lack of consumer confidence and weak income growth,” said Xin-Yao Ng, an investment director for Asian equities at abrdn. “We are cautious on 4Q earnings across most sectors, and would assume that continues in 1Q unless the government starts doing something massive to support the economy.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/price-wars-help-spark-157-billio
n-rout-in-china-consumer-stocks/ar-AA1mVK5T?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0a003d4efa144f698555b0bd4459e170&ei=45




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THG
Tuesday, January 16, 2024 8:37 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Agreements between China and the USA

SIGNYM




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THG
Wednesday, January 17, 2024 5:42 AM

China Deals Major Blow to Russian Economy

China's state-owned banks are tightening curbs on funding to Russian clients as they fear being subjected to secondary sanctions from the U.S., according to a Tuesday report by Bloomberg.

At least two banks have ordered a review of their Russian businesses in recent weeks and plan to sever ties with clients on the U.S. sanction list. The banks will also stop providing financial services to the Russian military sector, according to sources familiar with the matter, and review companies including non-Russian clients doing business in Russia or sending critical goods to Russia through a third country.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/china-deals-major-blow-to-russ
ian-economy/ar-AA1n4vYn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=9d8d0ec84af845c9a6f5b3c84c0f54a8&ei=15




Yep...

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