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THUGR: And your advice is to stop worring about China. What happens in China affects the rest of the world stupid.
Well, assuming you're correct, what we should plan on depends on HOW China's failure affects us.
So, what's YOUR advice?
Push China over the edge by invading Taiwan?
Support China so it doesn't fail?
Decouple from China so its failure doesn't affect us economically?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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THUGR: And your advice is to stop worring about China. What happens in China affects the rest of the world stupid.
Well, assuming you're correct, what we should plan on depends on HOW China's failure affects us.
So, what's YOUR advice?
Push China over the edge by invading Taiwan?
Support China so it doesn't fail?
Decouple from China so its failure doesn't affect us economically?
SIGNYM
Decouple, but what he mentions in the video is not the only reason to do so.
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China Is Fast Losing Its Place as Must-Have in Global Portfolios
(Bloomberg) -- Years of harrowing losses have left Chinese stocks with a diminished standing in global portfolios, a trend that’s likely to accelerate as some of the world’s biggest funds distance themselves from the risk-ridden market.
An analysis of filings by 14 US pension funds with investments in Chinese stocks show most of them have reduced their holdings since 2020. The California Public Employees’ Retirement System and New York State Common Retirement Fund, among the nation’s biggest pension investors, cut their exposure for a third straight year.
What started out as a performance-driven exodus now risks becoming a structural shift due to a toxic combination of doubts over Beijing’s long-term economic agenda, a prolonged property crisis and strategic competition with the US. Money managers at some of the biggest pensions in the US and Australia said in interviews that the prevailing playbook for China is one of caution.
“Foreign investors no longer fear leaving China out of their investment universe,” said Gary Dugan, chief investment officer at Dalma Capital Management Ltd. “We sense that international investors are just giving up trying to read China and will revert to a world-ex-China opportunity set, hence resetting the benchmarks to MSCI World ex-China.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/china-is-fast-losing-its-place
-as-must-have-in-global-portfolios/ar-AA1mMb8Q?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=569347ed2db24a73b56735b4cec735bc&ei=15
And it continues...
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Quote:Huh. That's what Trump was trying to do.
THUGR: And your advice is to stop worring about China. What happens in China affects the rest of the world stupid.
SIGNY: Well, assuming you're correct, what we should plan on depends on HOW China's failure affects us.
So, what's YOUR advice?
Push China over the edge by invading Taiwan?
Support China so it doesn't fail?
Decouple from China so its failure doesn't affect us economically?
THUGR: Decouple, but what he mentions in the video is not the only reason to do so.
The Biden* admin, tho, seems intent on warring on Taiwan. As do establishment Republicans.
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China Has 10 Years Left, Says Geopolitical Analyst Peter Zaihan
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China Has 10 Years Left, Says Geopolitical Analyst Peter Zaihan
If that's the case, why bother to go to war with China over Taiwan? The problem will take care of itself.
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China Has 10 Years Left, Says Geopolitical Analyst Peter Zaihan
If that's the case, why bother to go to war with China over Taiwan? The problem will take care of itself.
SIGNYM
You don't understand shit do ya?
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The narrator makes a few critical mistakes:
China can't "invade" Taiwan when everyone agrees, by international treaty, that Taiwan is part of China.
Being a part of China, TAIWAN HAS NO INDEPENDENT "TERRITORIAL WATERS".
China has no interest in using force against Taiwan unless Taiwan mounts an armed rebellion. Aided and abetted by the west. In that case, China would be within its rights to claim territorial defense, and it would be western forces that would be judged aggressor.
The FICTION that Taiwan is an independent nation is pushed relentlessly by the west. Since the video persisted in that fiction, I stopped listening about 5 minutes in bc it is based on a false premise.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The narrator makes a few critical mistakes:
China can't "invade" Taiwan when everyone agrees, by international treaty, that Taiwan is part of China.
Being a part of China, TAIWAN HAS NO INDEPENDENT "TERRITORIAL WATERS".
China has no interest in using force against Taiwan unless Taiwan mounts an armed rebellion. Aided and abetted by the west. In that case, China would be within its rights to claim territorial defense, and it would be western forces that would be judged aggressor.
The FICTION that Taiwan is an independent nation is pushed relentlessly by the west. Since the video persisted in that fiction, I stopped listening about 5 minutes in bc it is based on a false premise.
SIGNYM
Wrong, everybody doesn’t agree Taiwan is a part of China. Many say openly that they recognize China thinks it is; big difference. This has been explained to you several times. Your continued posting Taiwan is a part of China, does not now and never will, make it so. Also, you being Russian explains why you keep saying this.
Taiwan doesn’t believe it is a part of China and keeps saying so; I agree.
The video was based on a much deeper understanding of the subject than you can grasp. This explains your incorrect and simpleton answer.
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HONG KONG—China is sinking deeper into its worst deflation in years, spelling trouble for the whole world as demand falters in its second-largest economy.
With many Chinese worried about the economic outlook and unwilling to spend, consumer prices fell for a third straight month in December, official data showed Friday. Prices charged by manufacturers dropped for the 15th month in a row.
Economists at Morgan Stanley described the situation as the “longest and deepest” deflation in China since the Asian financial crisis in 1998, when countries across the region overheated and entered recessions that took years to recover from.
Until recently, many Western economists had welcomed some deflation in China, because it lowered the cost of imported Chinese goods, helping to ease inflationary pressures elsewhere. Inflation in the U.S. cooled through most of 2023, though it edged up some in December.
But as inflation worries have eased in the West, China’s deflation has become a bigger source of concern. It signals continuing economic distress in China, which could mean weaker sales for Western brands that do business there.
It also augurs more efforts by Chinese companies to unload excess goods elsewhere, competing with Western companies and exacerbating trade tensions, which are already high.
The European Union last fall accused China of flooding the market with cheap electric vehicles and launched an investigation into the role of state subsidies from China. Companies in other industries, including solar power, have raised similar concerns.
“Persistent deflation or very low inflation in China could contribute to a higher trade surplus and more trade frictions with the rest of the world,” said Adam Wolfe, emerging-markets economist at Absolute Strategy Research.
All of that is adding urgency for Beijing to increase efforts to reverse falling prices and revive growth. One worry is that without more forceful stimulus, China’s economy could fall into a debt-deflation spiral like Japan did in the 1990s, when falling prices prompted companies to cut wages and consumers to hold off on purchases, creating a vicious cycle of even weaker demand and more deflation.
“The size and speed of stimulus policy matters” in China, said Robin Xing, chief
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/deflation-worries-deepen-in-ch
ina/ar-AA1mQlj0?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8276c3772eef46a7c1309e3a68b1ba8d&ei=22
China is disposing of its surpluses with lower prices to stay afloat. It won't last.
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