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Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:21 PM

Many Russians Disapprove of Putin Method for Filling Military Ranks

By Jon Jackson | Dec 15, 2023 at 9:36 PM EST

https://www.newsweek.com/many-russians-disapprove-putin-method-filling
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A poll released on Friday found that more than half of Russians do not support pardoning prisoners who have previously committed serious crimes if they take part in the war in Ukraine upon release.

Russian Field, a nonpartisan Moscow-based research company, released its findings on Telegram. According to the poll, 55 percent of respondents said they do not support the idea of pardoning participants in the Ukraine war who were convicted of serious crimes prior to joining Russian troops. Thirty-two percent of respondents said they do support pardoning prisoners who fight for Russia.

The independent Russian media outlet Meduza reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin signed decrees in June that pardons prisoners who agree to fight in Ukraine. Putin reportedly said the recidivism rate among prisoners who become soldiers is low. However, there have been multiple media reports of former prisoners accused of committing serious crimes—including murder—after they returned home from the front lines of Ukraine.

Ivan Rossomakhin, a former inmate who had been convicted of murder three years ago, returned home from the war in Ukraine this summer. Less than 10 days after his military release, he reportedly confessed to stabbing an elderly lady to death.

When Dmitry Peskov — Putin's press secretary — was asked in November about convicted felons being granted pardons for their war service, he answered: "They atone with blood for crimes on the battlefield, in assault brigades, under bullets, under shells."

Women were more likely to oppose the idea of pardoning prisoners who serve in the military, with 60 percent stating they are against it, compared to 27 percent in favor of pardons. Forty-eight percent of men oppose the pardon plan, and 39 percent said they support it.

Younger respondents and people with higher incomes and/or higher education levels were more likely to oppose pardoning prisoners, according to Russian Field.

The survey involved 1,600 respondents and was conducted from December 4 to December 12. Russian Field did not provide a margin of error.

The recruitment of inmates from Russian penal colonies first became a practice publicized by the Wagner Group of Russian mercenaries before reports alleged the Russian Ministry of Defense was also taking in convicts.

The United Kingdom's Ministry of Defense said in May that Russia had ramped up" its recruitment of prison inmates this year due to its military not satisfying personnel staffing goals, but the effort reportedly was not keeping pace with Russia's casualty rate in Ukraine.

Reports in recent weeks also indicate the Kremlin has been hesitant to turn to another wave of mobilization out of fear that such a move could harm Putin's campaign for reelection in 2024.

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Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Usually you make more sense, so please explain...
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, if "The Interagency" has such a tight grip on foreign policy, money supply and all that, what Congress does or doesn't do hardly makes a difference. At this point Congress is mostly a bunch of feckless twats stroking each other and grandstanding for the electorate.

But aside from that, AFA Ukraine is concerned, Russia is in the driver's seat. It's not up to the President, Congress, or "The Interagency" what happens next, unless Biden dementedly starts a nuclear war. As long as it remains conventional, the various American and European factions will continue to squabble with each other and amongst themselves until Ukraine surrenders. After that, Russia will start addressing NATO directly.

It's not in Congress's hands, even if they like to think so.
Chill.


SIX: I just don't seeing our TDS suffering elected officials getting us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.

Is that even an issue? And ... that's a good thing, right? I don't understand your point.



I must have been tired when I wrote that or something. I meant to say "I just don't like seeing". This is not a good thing. I view this vote as taking us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.

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SIX: The countries with the most are the ones giving up their quality of life for everyone else.

It's bad enough that we're giving the whole damn country away to illegal foreign invaders as it is.



The countries that are suffering the most are in the EU, and AFAIK Germany and Britain are suffering the most.
So IDK what this point is either.



That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.

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Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.

There is a federal program to end homelessness, but the homeless say what 6ix says: "I'm doing fine. I don't want the Federal government telling me what to do with my life." And so the drunken fools lie around all day doing nothing other than picking up aluminum cans for money because they refuse to allow anybody to stop them from being proud fools.

Federal Funding for Homelessness Programs HUD's McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Grants program is at the core of federal efforts to end homelessness. Each year, HUD awards Homeless Assistance Grants to communities that administer housing and services at the local level.
https://endhomelessness.org/ending-homelessness/policy/

There is an Ending Homelessness Act of 2023 that will never pass because Republicans don't want it to pass: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4232/text

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, December 17, 2023 6:06 PM

The United States has provided more than $71 billion in aid to Ukraine since the start of the war. That includes $43.9 billion in military assistance, more than the next 11 donating countries combined, according to a tracker maintained by Germany’s Kiel Institute.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tra
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, December 17, 2023 6:06 PM

The Financial Times (FT) reported on December 15 that the G7 may consider using frozen Russian assets to fund Ukraine.[24] FT reported that US officials circulated a discussion paper about how G7 members and other states could seize Russian sovereign assets in a way “consistent with international law” as a “countermeasure to induce Russia to end its aggression” in Ukraine during G7 committee meetings. FT reported that the G7 could use a portion of the $300 billion worth of frozen Russian assets to fund assistance packages to Ukraine and that a US official stated that G7 leaders may discuss the proposal at their meeting in February 2024.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-december-16-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, December 17, 2023 6:25 PM

What happens in Ukraine if US aid disappears?

Countries will take the lesson from a defeat of Ukraine — which gave up the nuclear weapons on its territory in the 1990s in exchange for security guarantees from Russia and the United States — that they should acquire a nuclear deterrent of their own. This is particularly true for countries with their own belligerent neighbors such as Japan, South Korea, even NATO countries. They worry about how much the US would actually support them when they needed it, and how vulnerable they are to pressure or attack by another nuclear power.

Earlier this year, in a speech in Warsaw after his landmark visit to Ukraine, Biden described Russia’s invasion as a test not only for Ukraine but for the United States and the democratic world. Russia, he said, had met the “iron will of America and the nations everywhere that refused to accept a world governed by fear and force.”

Other countries will take note if this “iron will” starts to bend.

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/24002840/ukraine-russia-war-united-
states-aid-volodymyr-zelensky-vladimir-putin-europe-congress-border


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Sunday, December 17, 2023 9:14 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.

There is a federal program to end homelessness, but the homeless say what 6ix says: "I'm doing fine. I don't want the Federal government telling me what to do with my life." And so the drunken fools lie around all day doing nothing other than picking up aluminum cans for money because they refuse to allow anybody to stop them from being proud fools.



That's a boldfaced lie.

There are homeless programs, but it's a grift that very few people get rich off of while it does absolutely nothing to help homeless people.

I thought you guys were the party of "don't blame the victims".

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Sunday, December 17, 2023 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Usually you make more sense, so please explain ...

SIX: I just don't seeing our TDS suffering elected officials getting us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.

SIGNY: Is that even an issue? And ... that's a good thing, right? I don't understand your point.

SIX: I must have been tired when I wrote that or something. I meant to say "I just don't like seeing". This is not a good thing. I view this vote as taking us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.

OK! Makes sense now! (Just keep an eye on your blood sugar, there have been more uninterpretable sentences lately, and you're MUCH more on top of your posts than that.)

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SIX: The countries with the most are the ones giving up their quality of life for everyone else.
It's bad enough that we're giving the whole damn country away to illegal foreign invaders as it is.

SIGNY: The countries that are suffering the most are in the EU, and AFAIK Germany and Britain are suffering the most.
So IDK what this point is either.

SIX: That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.

Right now the USA is climbing on the drowning EU's back. Since we convinced them to sanction Russian energy and blew up their pipeline, their energy costs ... the base for any modern industrial economy .... roughly pentupled and their industries are moving here, they say, where energy is cheaper.

Not that you'd notice it from our industrial production, tho!

I'm really REALLY not a big fan of us joining international organizations that remove sovereign rights from USA and prevent our government from representing OUR .... i.e. the American people's and society's ... interests. But our elite manage to screw that up even without joining anything.

Heck, look at Ukraine: Is it part of NATO??? Then WTF are we doing there? I could say the same for most of the Mideast, Africa, and S and Central America, where we wasted trillions upon trillions of dollars doing shit that didn't help anyone except the rich get richer.

It's a matter of corruption. DC is almost to a person corrupt and, at this point, so well insulated from the real world as to be stupefied and delusional.

And Americans have been so comfortable in their belief that America is the only nation that counts they pay no attention at all to foreign policy.

It just reminds me of the book "When society becomes an addict".
We are addicted to comforting ideas about us, about the world, but these ideas are dysfunctional in the real world. Look at JO753. Look at THUGR. Look at SECOND.

Instead of demanding jobs in a vibrant economy, we're stuck on demanding handouts, "reparations", blaming all kinds of "isms", living on credit cards and social media... WTF kind of society and economy is THAT???

We may have to hit hottom, have a nationwide red pill moment, throw out the entire echelon of politicos and elites and media whores on their collective asses, and reconstitute ourselves with a better grip on reality.

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Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Monday, December 18, 2023 7:01 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It just reminds me of the book "When society becomes an addict".
We are addicted to comforting ideas about us, about the world, but these ideas are dysfunctional in the real world. Look at JO753. Look at THUGR. Look at SECOND.

Instead of demanding jobs in a vibrant economy, we're stuck on demanding handouts, "reparations", blaming all kinds of "isms", living on credit cards and social media... WTF kind of society and economy is THAT???

We may have to hit hottom, have a nationwide red pill moment, throw out the entire echelon of politicos and elites and media whores on their collective asses, and reconstitute ourselves with a better grip on reality.

Matthew Perry died last week because he did not have a 24/7 guardian who could not be fired and who would consistently tell him that, no, he could not use those drugs and if he even tried the guardian would zap him with a cattle prod. That lack of a guardian is what is wrong with most Americans. They can't control themselves, nobody is doing it for them, and they won't voluntarily behave well 24/7, all of which gets them into trouble and shortens their lives. They are feckless.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65798&mid=11852
07#1185207


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, December 18, 2023 7:08 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's a boldfaced lie.

There are homeless programs, but it's a grift that very few people get rich off of while it does absolutely nothing to help homeless people.

I thought you guys were the party of "don't blame the victims".

6ix, you talk nonsense. If you don't blame the fucking victim, they go off and victimize themselves until they are dead, all the time wondering why bad things happen to them. 6ix, your drunkenness was all your fault. You bought the beers and you drank them. If you had kept it up and drank the money that should be used to pay your taxes on your house, you'd be homeless, too. No power in America could stop you from ruining yourself. If you stop using insulin and stop replacing your diabetes monitor, you are dead. Again, if you stop, you ruin yourself and it is your fault.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65798&mid=11852
07#1185207


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