Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Originally posted by second:
Trump can't screw up even if Putin blackmails him, again:
Lawmakers pass bill that makes it all but impossible for Trump to leave NATO | December 14, 2023
Business Insider reports:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nato-withdraw-congress-defense-b
ill-2023-12
A brief provision in the massive $886 billion bill funding the Pentagon will likely kill former President Donald Trump or any potential future president’s ambitions to withdraw the United States from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Sens. Tim Kaine, a Virginia Democrat, and Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, teamed up to muscle their bill — which would require an act of Congress or Senate approval to leave NATO — into what is often deemed a must-pass bill that funds servicemembers and outlines national security priorities. President Joe Biden is expected to sign the legislation into law. The Senate passed the overall legislation 87 to 13. The House passed it on Friday on a 310-118 vote.
“The Senate’s vote today to pass my bipartisan bill to prevent any U.S. President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO reaffirms U.S. support for this crucial alliance that is foundational for our national security,” Kaine said in a statement after the Pentagon funding bill passed the Senate. “It also sends a strong message to authoritarians around the world that the free world remains united.”
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That's fucking terrible news.
Now we're slaves to NATO.
WTF is wrong with you people. Your TDS is so bad that National Sovereignty means nothing to you?
FUCK NATO.
Trump will get us out of this.
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No, we're not slaves to NATO. You know how so many nations are TECHNICALLY part of NATO but don't really put much $ into it?
Trump could be such an unpleasant NATO partner, refusing to pay into it, refusing to station troops , twisting arms so other nations pay their "fair share" they're BEGGING him to leave.
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Quote:6ix, you are so funny. Or is it paranoid? Or is it stupid? But you are the living proof that Trumptards are angry poor white trash who misunderstand simple things, sometimes partially, often times completely and absurdly. That tendency gets in the way of your prosperity.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's fucking terrible news.
Now we're slaves to NATO.
WTF is wrong with you people. Your TDS is so bad that National Sovereignty means nothing to you?
FUCK NATO.
Trump will get us out of this.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
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The High Price of Losing Ukraine
By Frederick W. Kagan, Kateryna Stepanenko, Mitchell Belcher, Noel Mikkelsen, and Thomas Bergeron | Dec 14, 2023
This brief paper evaluates only the narrow question of some of the military-strategic and financial tradeoffs of various possible outcomes of the Russian war in Ukraine. We have considered elsewhere the important question of possible Russian escalations in the face of defeat and we do not minimize those considerations.[10] We have argued strongly that American values align with American interests in Ukraine and that there is a strong and cogent values-based argument for helping Ukraine liberate all its land and its people.[11] We still believe that that is true.
But the American people are being asked to spend a lot of money helping Ukraine fight Russia, and it is not unreasonable for them also wonder what the financial cost of not helping Ukraine would be. This essay is meant solely to serve as a departure point for a data-driven and realistic discussion answering that question.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/high-price-losing-ukrain
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Putin’s Weak Link to Crimea
Kyiv Should Target the Kerch Bridge — but Needs Missiles to Take It Out
By Ben Hodges, Led Klosky, Robert Person, and Eric Williamson | December 5, 2023
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/putins-weak-link-crimea
When Russia annexed Crimea in February 2014, the peninsula became crucial to Moscow’s strategy to dominate Ukraine and the Black Sea region. Critical to that domination is the bridge spanning the Kerch Strait, the narrow strip of water that separates Crimea from mainland Russia. Built by Moscow at enormous cost, this bridge opened in 2018 to great fanfare. Since then, it has been a major conduit for the transportation of Russian soldiers and arms required for the war in Ukraine.
The bridge is currently under Russian control and is of fundamental importance to the Russian war effort. It may, however, prove to be the key to Ukraine’s victory — not just in Crimea but in the wider conflict. No single event could more quickly turn the tide of the war, reset the narrative, and restore confidence in Kyiv’s ability to win than crippling the most potent symbol of Russia’s occupation of Ukraine.
But destroying the bridge will be a difficult task. It has been expertly constructed to bear heavy traffic. Its size, strength, and durability are such that it has withstood repeated Ukrainian attacks. For Kyiv to succeed in permanently disabling or destroying the bridge, Ukraine’s Western allies must provide far larger numbers of powerful precision-guided missiles. This will be a matter of both quantity and quality: a debilitating attack will necessitate a massive salvo of missiles to overwhelm Russia’s formidable missile defenses in Crimea and strike multiple vulnerabilities on the bridge simultaneously or one critical element repeatedly. Either strategy requires greater numbers of sophisticated missiles, including U.S.-made Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) missiles and German Taurus missiles. Until Ukraine’s allies provide these or similar bunker-busting precision weapons — and lots of them — the bridge is likely to continue serving the Russian war effort.
MOSCOW’S VITAL LINK
Crimea has occupied a central place in Russian grand strategy for centuries, serving as the base from which Moscow projected its influence throughout the Black Sea region, the Mediterranean, and beyond. In 1954, Crimea was “gifted” to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic by Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, a transfer that made little practical difference as long as Ukraine and Russia were both part of the Soviet Union. But when the Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991, Crimea went with Ukraine, a fact begrudgingly accepted by Moscow. In 1997, Russia and Ukraine signed a treaty in which Moscow pledged to respect Ukrainian sovereignty over the peninsula in return for securing a long-term lease to the Russian Black Sea Fleet headquarters in Sevastopol. This lease made the Russian base a powerful bargaining chip for Kyiv and a key vulnerability for Moscow’s access to the strategically significant Black Sea region. In 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed Crimea, and one of his first acts was to order the construction of a vehicle and rail bridge connecting the peninsula to Russia. Building commenced in February 2016 and was completed just two years later. It cost $4.5 billion.
Since its opening, the bridge has become a political symbol of Moscow’s integration of Crimea into the Russian state — and a potent representation of the Kremlin’s neoimperial aspirations. It is partly a vanity project for Putin, feeding his self-image as a modern-day Tsar Peter the Great, reclaiming Russia’s historical patrimony. It is also a physical manifestation of Moscow’s narrative that unbreakable fraternal bonds exist between Russia and Ukraine, an idea Putin has used to legitimize his invasion.
The bridge’s construction, however, was motivated by more than just symbolism. Russia is estimated to have spent $20 billion annexing and integrating Crimea into its territory, and the bri
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, we're not slaves to NATO. You know how so many nations are TECHNICALLY part of NATO but don't really put much $ into it?
Yeah. But none of them are being forced into membership like we're going to force ourselves.
Let me put it another way...
Do you think that Auto Insurance companies started charging their customers more or less money after it became law that you had to have auto insurance if you were going to drive a car?
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Trump could be such an unpleasant NATO partner, refusing to pay into it, refusing to station troops , twisting arms so other nations pay their "fair share" they're BEGGING him to leave.
Yeah. He could...
Or they could make a claim that he's Quiet Quitting NATO, or even get more hyperbolic and call it Suicide By Cop.
https://www.investopedia.com/what-is-quiet-quitting-6743910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop
No good comes from legally binding us to a hierarchy in which WE are not the ones in control.
Look how many of our elected officials just voted us into this from both sides of the Uniparty. This is no different than the elected officials in European countries did when they voted to cede power to the EU, and look how that turned out.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are so funny. Or is it paranoid? Or is it stupid? But you are the living proof that Trumptards are angry poor white trash who misunderstand simple things, sometimes partially, often times completely and absurdly. That tendency gets in the way of your prosperity.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's fucking terrible news.
Now we're slaves to NATO.
WTF is wrong with you people. Your TDS is so bad that National Sovereignty means nothing to you?
FUCK NATO.
Trump will get us out of this.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Read my above post, halfwit.
I don't understand your definition of prosperity at all. I own everything I have free and clear and I've been semi-retired since I was 32 years old, despite only making about a quarter of a million in my lifetime. I haven't worked a thankless job for 4.5 years and have no worries at all about how I'm going to keep a roof over my head and food on the table.
Have fun at work today, honey.
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Quote:The NATO treaty was ratified by Congress before your parents were born. Since NATO has been around longer than them, they were born slaves and you were born a slave, or your complaining about NATO being slavery is nonsense. To quote you: "That's fucking terrible news. Now we're slaves to NATO. WTF is wrong with you people." Congress reminded Trump in 2023 that he never had the power to cancel the NATO treaty. If he tries, he gets impeached.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are so funny. Or is it paranoid? Or is it stupid? But you are the living proof that Trumptards are angry poor white trash who misunderstand simple things, sometimes partially, often times completely and absurdly. That tendency gets in the way of your prosperity.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's fucking terrible news.
Now we're slaves to NATO.
WTF is wrong with you people. Your TDS is so bad that National Sovereignty means nothing to you?
FUCK NATO.
Trump will get us out of this.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Read my above post, halfwit.
I don't understand your definition of prosperity at all. I own everything I have free and clear and I've been semi-retired since I was 32 years old, despite only making about a quarter of a million in my lifetime. I haven't worked a thankless job for 4.5 years and have no worries at all about how I'm going to keep a roof over my head and food on the table.
Have fun at work today, honey.
6ix, I wouldn't worry about you keeping food on the table. NATO will provide for you. Worry about Trump not winning and the end of your world when the Democrats take away your personal guns and you are forced to be a latrine cleaner in NATO's army conquering Russia.
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Originally posted by second:
The NATO treaty was ratified by Congress before your parents were born. Since NATO has been around longer than them, they were born slaves and you were born a slave, or your complaining about NATO being slavery is nonsense. To quote you: "That's fucking terrible news. Now we're slaves to NATO. WTF is wrong with you people." Congress reminded Trump in 2023 that he never had the power to cancel the NATO treaty. If he tries, he gets impeached.
You don't understand anything that you're told by anyone, let alone what I'm talking about here. This is very apparent in your stupid reply quoted above.
And go ahead and impeach Trump again. Big fuckin' deal. We already knew you were going to impeach him at least 2 more times for one thing or another when he gets reelected in November.
Why do you think I haven't made a single mention about the liklihood that Biden* is about to be impeached himself? Because it doesn't mean anything.
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6ix, I wouldn't worry about you keeping food on the table. NATO will provide for you. Worry about Trump not winning and the end of your world when the Democrats take away your personal guns and you are forced to be a latrine cleaner in NATO's army conquering Russia.
Fuck NATO. I don't need anybody to provide for me.
Democrats aren't taking away our gun rights just like they never take away our gun rights. It's just another issue they never want resolved (like abortion) because it's much more valuable as a political weapon every election season than the issue itself is to them.
I'm going to be 45 next year buddy. The Army doesn't want me anymore.
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Putin Admits Russia Has Suffered Huge Losses in Ukraine
Dec 14, 2023 at 5:15 PM EST
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-admits-russia-suffered-huge-losses-ukra
ine-1852660
Despite the figures from Matveev, it is not clear that Putin was admitting to 363,000 lost soldiers. However, the figure does come close to the 315,000 claimed Russian troop casualties that were revealed in a leaked declassified U.S. intelligence document this week.
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claimed in a Facebook post on Wednesday that Russia had lost 342,800 troops since first launching its invasion on February 24, 2022. The U.K. military also estimated in mid-November that 302,000 Russian personnel had been lost.
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