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Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:40 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The IRS has plenty of funding.

But instead of going after rich people, they're going after people who make more than $600 selling used stuff at garage sales.

Let me check. Too easy. You are lying, 6ix.

A well-functioning tax system requires that everyone pays the taxes they owe. Today, the “tax gap” — the difference between taxes that are owed and collected — totals around $600 billion annually and will mean approximately $7 trillion of lost tax revenue over the next decade. The sheer magnitude of lost revenue is striking: it is equal to 3 percent of GDP, or all the income taxes paid by the lowest earning 90 percent of taxpayers.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/the-case-for-a-robust-
attack-on-the-tax-gap


Tax cheats cost the U.S. $1 trillion per year, I.R.S. chief says.

The United States is losing $1 trillion in unpaid taxes every year, Charles Rettig, the Internal Revenue Service commissioner, estimated on Tuesday, arguing that the agency lacks the resources to catch tax cheats.

The so-called tax gap has surged in the last decade. The last official estimate from the I.R.S. was that an average of $441 billion per year went unpaid from 2011 to 2013. Most of the unpaid taxes are the result of evasion by the wealthy and large corporations, Mr. Rettig said.

“We do get outgunned,” he said during a Senate Finance Committee hearing on the coming tax season.

Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, the Democratic chairman of the committee, called the $1 trillion tax gap a “jaw-dropping figure.”

“The fact is that nurses and firefighters have to pay with every paycheck and so many highfliers can get off,” Mr. Wyden said.

Mr. Rettig attributed the growing tax gap to the rise of the $2 trillion cryptocurrency sector, which remains lightly regulated and has been an avenue for tax avoidance. He also pointed to foreign-source income and the abuse of pass-through provisions in the tax code by companies.

The size of the I.R.S.’s enforcement division has declined sharply in recent years, Mr. Rettig said, with its ranks falling by 17,000 over the last decade.

The spending proposal that the Biden administration released last week asked for a 10.4 percent increase above current funding levels for the tax collection agency, to $13.2 billion. The additional money would go toward increasing oversight of tax returns of high-income individuals and companies and improving customer service at the I.R.S.

— Alan Rappeport

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/13/business/stock-market-today#ir
s-tax-gap


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 14, 2023 3:17 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The IRS has plenty of funding.

But instead of going after rich people, they're going after people who make more than $600 selling used stuff at garage sales.

Let me check. Too easy. You are lying, 6ix.



No I'm not. That is EXACTLY what they're doing with all their extra funding.

But they know it's so unbelievably popular after Democrats voted it in that they've delayed doing it not one year, but two years now.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-delay-for-implementation-of
-600-reporting-threshold-for-third-party-payment-platforms-forms-1099-k


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The American Rescue Plan of 2021 changed the reporting threshold for TPSOs. The new threshold for business transactions is $600 per year; changed from the previous threshold of more than 200 transactions per year, exceeding an aggregate amount of $20,000.

Under the law, beginning January 1, 2023, a TPSO is required to report third-party network transactions paid in 2022 with any participating payee that exceed a minimum threshold of $600 in aggregate payments, regardless of the number of transactions. TPSOs report these transactions by providing individual payee's an IRS Form 1099-K, Payment Card and Third-Party Network Transactions.



This law passed by Democrats destroys eBay, Paypal, CashApp and other service providers and will put a very large delay on TPTB's ability to get us all on a non-cash based system like they want.

Giving more money to the IRS was NEVER about going after rich people with good lawyers. It was about fucking poor people who barely scratch out a living.



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Thursday, December 14, 2023 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

This law passed by Democrats destroys eBay, Paypal, CashApp and other service providers and will put a very large delay on TPTB's ability to get us all on a non-cash based system like they want.

Giving more money to the IRS was NEVER about going after rich people with good lawyers. It was about fucking poor people who barely scratch out a living.

6ix, you are full of shit.

They used to throw women in the water to see if they were witches. If they drowned, they were innocent.

Now Republicans are saying the only abortion exception is if the woman's life is at risk. If she dies, she was at risk.

You can see the recurring flaw in the methodology.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 14, 2023 3:22 AM

GET FUCKED, IDIOT. YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT THIS LIKE YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.



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Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:24 AM

So nobody is going to mention the fact you'd have to go back to January 3rd, 2018 to find a single day where Trump's approval was lower than Biden's current 39.9% is right now.

Trump's approval on December 11th, 2019 was 44.1%.




Hell... I didn't even notice it, but on July 21nd of this year, Biden's approval was only 36.8.

Trump never got that low.

He only dropped to 39.4 from 43.9 in the week of Legacy Media bashing after the made up January 6th story in 2020. Biden's just half a point ahead of Trumps worst post-Presidency rating.



It doesn't matter if you have the entire Legacy Media behind you when the results of your presidency are this terrible.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-app
roval-7320.html


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html


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Thursday, December 14, 2023 4:47 PM

The National Review published Wednesday a scathing critique of work done by the many attorneys defending the former president from the numerous criminal and civil charges he faces, but cast blame on their “client from hell.” A man so bad at working with lawyers should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief.

Donald Trump’s Lousy Lawyers Shaft Him Again
By Dan McLaughlin | December 13, 2023 3:09 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/donald-trumps-lousy-lawyers-shaf
t-him-again
/

As I have noted before, Donald Trump is the client from hell. He stiffs his lawyers on bills. He ignores their advice. He demands that they take impossible, extreme, and indefensible positions. He lies to them or withholds information so that they are sent out to burn their own credibility on his behalf, after which he throws them under the bus. He doesn’t protect attorney–client privilege, so lawyers get forced to testify about their communications with him (a long-standing pattern; the ghostwriter of Art of the Deal recounted how Trump would let him listen on speakerphone to Trump talking to his lawyers). Several of the people who advised or represented him in his uniformly failed challenges to the 2020 election ended up getting indicted, disbarred, or both. His lawyers in the Mar-a-Lago boxes case got dragged into testifying because Trump had them tell falsehoods to the feds, which then unraveled.

This pattern predictably results in his getting the bad lawyering he deserves, either because he can’t get good lawyers to subject themselves to this or because his impossible demands result in strategic errors. Yet another consequence came today from the federal Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in Manhattan, in E. Jean Carroll’s defamation suit. Trump argued that he was immune from suit because of presidential immunity. This was always a questionable argument: While Carroll sued Trump over statements Trump made while he was president, immunity would require Trump to act in his official capacity as president in claiming that Carroll was making up her story of being sexually assaulted by Trump in the 1990s. The controversy, like Paula Jones’s lawsuit against Bill Clinton, involved an alleged sexual assault that happened before Trump was president, so the argument would have to be that the president’s defense of his personal reputation is definitionally an official act.

But the Second Circuit didn’t even get to the question, because it concluded that Trump waived the immunity defense when his lawyers forgot to include it in filing his answer to Carroll’s complaint and waited three years to ask the court for permission to add the defense to his answer. Carroll filed her lawsuit in November 2019 in state court. Trump’s answer was filed, on a timely basis, in January 2020. The answer to a civil complaint is supposed to include any legal defenses a defendant may assert, although there are technical rules that vary by state and federal process on what things must be in an answer to avoid waiving them. Some things, like a lack of subject-matter jurisdiction, are not waivable because a federal court’s lacking the power to hear a case is not something the parties can change. Trump’s lawyers, however, didn’t raise presidential immunity until they filed a summary-judgment motion in January 2023, long after removing the case to federal court, and subsequently asked the trial judge to let Trump add the defense to his answer (as well as to an amended answer filed after Carroll amended her complaint). As the appeals court concluded, “Defendant unduly delayed in raising presidential immunity as a defense. Three years passed between Defendant’s answer and his request for leave to amend his answer. A three-year delay is more than enough, under our precedents, to qualify as ‘undue.'” The excuse that Trump had tried to raise related issues was not enough to explain why he had not taken the precaution of actually listing it as one of his defenses. And waiting until the eve of trial to raise it was unfair to Carroll:

Had Defendant raised presiden

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Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:34 PM

Oh boo hoo. The poor lawyers.

Fuck Lawyers.

I guess we can add the Lawyers to the long list of shitty people Democrats love in modern politics.


You'd better hope that your guy can destroy his political opposition by imprisoning him for life, because it's the only way that Democrats win the election in November.

Tick Tock



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Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh boo hoo. The poor lawyers.

Fuck Lawyers.

I guess we can add the Lawyers to the long list of shitty people Democrats love in modern politics.


You'd better hope that your guy can destroy his political opposition by imprisoning him for life, because it's the only way that Democrats win the election in November.

Tick Tock


As a future President, Trump works with lawyers who are defending him, but he can't let them go about their work unsupervised because he is so much smarter (in his opinion) than the people who are defending him and must micromanage them. After all, his lawyers are no match for Trump's high personal standards of legal legerdemain and flashes of brilliance Trump constantly displays in speeches to his adoring citizens.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh boo hoo. The poor lawyers.

Fuck Lawyers.

I guess we can add the Lawyers to the long list of shitty people Democrats love in modern politics.


You'd better hope that your guy can destroy his political opposition by imprisoning him for life, because it's the only way that Democrats win the election in November.

Tick Tock


As a future President, Trump works with lawyers who are defending him, but he can't let them go about their work unsupervised because he is so much smarter (in his opinion) than the people who are defending him and must micromanage them. After all, his lawyers are no match for Trump's high personal standards of legal legerdemain and flashes of brilliance Trump constantly displays in speeches to his adoring citizens.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Joe Biden* can't even find his way off stage after he finishes reading the teleprompter.



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Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:05 PM

Leftist shitrag Bloomberg has some bad polling news for Biden* today.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/gop_primaries/

Arizona: Trump 46, Biden 42
Georgia: Trump 49, Biden 43
Michigan: Trump 46, Biden 42
Nevada: Trump 47, Biden 44
N. Carolina: Trump 49, Biden 40
Pennsylvania: Trump 46, Biden 44
Wisconsin: Trump 45, Biden 41

Uh oh, Joe*. That's all the swing states.



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