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That whole 2nd part of Second's latest rant is just saying that Biden* should do exactly what Democrats claim Trump would do when he's President.
It's so funny watching these lunatics self-own at every opportunity.
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Jeff Bezos' Superyacht Generates 447 Times The Yearly Carbon Emissions Of Average US Household
Jeff Bezos’ superyacht produces 7K tons of carbon emissions per year: report
Published Nov. 25, 2023, 7:53 a.m. ET
So much for smooth sailing.
Jeff Bezos — who has pledged to spend billions of dollars to help fight climate change — nonetheless owns a $500 million superyacht that generates thousands of tons of carbon emissions each year, according to a new analysis by Indiana University researchers.
The Amazon founder’s 417-foot sailing yacht “Koru,” produces an astounding minimum of 7,154 tons of greenhouse gasses annually — roughly 447 times the entire annual carbon footprint of your average American, the Indiana researchers found.
Amazon founder Jeff Bezos' triple-masted $500 million superyacht is far from climate-friendly, generating hundreds of times the annual carbon footprint of a typical American household.
At 417 feet, "Koru" is the world's largest sailing yacht. It produces a whopping 7,154 tons of greenhouse gasses on a per-annum basis, or about 447 times the entire annual carbon footprint of the average US household, the New York Post reported, citing Indiana researchers.
MORE AT https://nypost.com/2023/11/25/news/jeff-bezos-yacht-produces-7k-tons-o
f-carbon-emissions-per-year-report/
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He wouldn't be a Democrat if he wasn't a hypocrite.
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Quote:You remembered that I'm in the fossil fuel business. Good for you!
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
He wouldn't be a Democrat if he wasn't a hypocrite.
There are a few ways to reduce fossil fuel use:
1) volunteer to stop buying fossil fuel because you care about the planet
2) raise the price of fuel for fossil fuel users who don't care about anything except price
3) forbid the sale and also the use of machines that burn fossil fuel because fossil fuel users are pigheaded
4) Command the fossil fuel sellers to limit how much they sell (which is actually option #2 in disguise)
The United States is poised to extract more oil and gas than ever before in 2023, a year that is certain to be the hottest ever recorded, providing a daunting backdrop to crucial United Nations climate talks that hold the hope of an agreement to end the era of fossil fuels.
The US’s status as the world’s leading oil and gas behemoth has only strengthened this year, even amid warnings from Joe Biden himself over the unfolding climate crisis, with the latest federal government forecast showing a record 12.9m barrels of crude oil, more than double what was produced a decade ago, will be extracted in 2023.
Records will also be broken this year for gas production, with a glut of new export terminals on the Gulf of Mexico coast facilitating a boom that will see US exports of liquified natural gas (or LNG) double in the next four years.
Tellingly, the US government expects this frenzy of oil and gas activity to continue at near-record levels right up to 2050, a point at which scientists say planet-heating emissions must be eliminated to avoid catastrophic climate breakdown. A third of the world’s planned oil and gas expansion in this period will occur in the US, a recent report found.
At the Cop28 climate summit, starting in Dubai this week, the European Union and a cadre of “high ambition” countries that range from Kenya to Samoa will push for an agreed “phaseout” of fossil fuels. António Guterres, secretary general of the UN, has called fossil fuel production the “poisonous root” of the climate crisis that should be dismantled. “Cop28 must send a clear signal that the fossil fuel age is out of gas, that its end is inevitable,” he said.
The US’s surging fossil fuel production casts a pall over such ambitions, however. “It’s particularly alarming to see the projections of record US oil and gas production year after year until 2050,” said Michael Lazarus, a senior scientist at Stockholm Environment Institute, which helped produce a recent UN report finding the world is planning double the amount of fossil fuel production consistent with remaining within a 1.5C (2.7F) global temperature rise compared with pre-industrial times.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/27/us-oil-gas-record-
fossil-fuels-cop28-united-nations
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You remembered that I'm in the fossil fuel business. Good for you!
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
He wouldn't be a Democrat if he wasn't a hypocrite.
That one wasn't for you. That was for Jeff Bezos.
This one was for you:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11842
65#1184265
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Russia’s attempt to artificially create a migrant crisis at the Finnish border appears to be failing due to Finnish authorities’ swift response. Finnish Prime Minister Petteri Orpo stated on November 27 that the Finnish government will close the last border crossing with Russia “if necessary” and reported that the Finnish government is ready to take unspecified additional measures in response to Russia’s artificially generated migrant crisis.[20] Finland previously closed three checkpoints on the Finnish-Russian border on November 23, leaving only its northernmost border crossing open.[21] Several other Finnish government officials also signaled their support for closing the entire border with Russia.[22] A Russian insider source claimed that Russian Presidential Administration First Deputy Head Sergei Kiriyenko instructed Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) Head Vladimir Kolokoltsev to gather migrants from the Middle East, Africa, and other regions to send them to the Finnish border.[23] The insider source complained that Finnish border authorities stopped most migrants from crossing into Finland and that Russian authorities must now settle the migrants in Russia.[24]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-27-2023
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Good for the Finns.
Stopping Putin from doing to them what Democrats do to their own People every day.
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I have some free time today. Let's address your points.
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Originally posted by second:
There are a few ways to reduce fossil fuel use:
1) volunteer to stop buying fossil fuel because you care about the planet
You first.
Actually. Me first. I'm not installing a windmill in my back yard or solar panels on my roof, but I've driven an average of about 1,500 miles per year for years now. Every one of my monthly energy reports for gas and electric combined show that I use anywhere from 20% to 60% less than my Efficient Neighbors.
Alternative energy is expensive, unreliable, high-maintenance, and completely non-recyclable. Until all of the above change, it will not ever be adopted en masse. And until we start throwing nuclear power back in the mix we will never be free of fossil fuel. Wind and Solar are nothing more than a good supplement to REAL power, whether it be from fossil fuels or nuclear plants.
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2) raise the price of fuel for fossil fuel users who don't care about anything except price
You already did that. And with no genuine alternatives in place, you're reaping the benefits of this decision.
How are those polls treating you?
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3) forbid the sale and also the use of machines that burn fossil fuel because fossil fuel users are pigheaded
Deeply, deeply unpopular whenever it's enacted. Be my guest and try it.
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4) Command the fossil fuel sellers to limit how much they sell (which is actually option #2 in disguise)
Outside of raising the prices artificially through taxes, the Government doesn't get to do that. Your party has made everything cost much more than it did only 3 years ago, and this isn't the only reason for those price increases.
But by all means, please raise them some more before the election.
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The United States is poised to extract more oil and gas than ever before in 2023, a year that is certain to be the hottest ever recorded, providing a daunting backdrop to crucial United Nations climate talks that hold the hope of an agreement to end the era of fossil fuels.
And Democrats are running the show with an upcoming election showing red flags all over that they're about to be pummeled. Imagine that, huh?
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The US’s status as the world’s leading oil and gas behemoth has only strengthened this year, even amid warnings from Joe Biden himself over the unfolding climate crisis, with the latest federal government forecast showing a record 12.9m barrels of crude oil, more than double what was produced a decade ago, will be extracted in 2023.
Democrats being Hypocrites being Democrats.
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Records will also be broken this year for gas production, with a glut of new export terminals on the Gulf of Mexico coast facilitating a boom that will see US exports of liquified natural gas (or LNG) double in the next four years.
Gotta get those prices down before we lose the 2024 elections!
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Tellingly, the US government expects this frenzy of oil and gas activity to continue at near-record levels right up to 2050, a point at which scientists say planet-heating emissions must be eliminated to avoid catastrophic climate breakdown. A third of the world’s planned oil and gas expansion in this period will occur in the US, a recent report found.
There's just as many scientists out there that would argue this opinion. You just don't ever hear from any of them because they're shut out of the government/media apparatus.
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At the Cop28 climate summit, starting in Dubai this week, the European Union and a cadre of “high ambition” countries that range from Kenya to Samoa will push for an agreed “phaseout” of fossil fuels. António Guterres, secretary general of the UN, has called fossil fuel production the “poisonous root” of the climate crisis that should be dismantled. “Cop28 must send a clear signal that the fossil fuel age is out of gas, that its end is inevitabNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
He wouldn't be a Democrat if he wasn't a hypocrite.
SECOND: You remembered that I'm in the fossil fuel business. Good for you!
There are a few ways to reduce fossil fuel use:
You forgot at least a dozen other ways to reduce fossil fuels use, and at least a couple dozen ways to either enhance carbon dioxide sequestration or reduce non-anthropogenic carbon dioxide/ greenhouse gas emissions.
One bad forest fire year undid EIGHTEEN YEARS of CA decarbonization efforts
You keep trying to narrow the options. That's the mark of a small mind. Or a devious one.
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One reason why U.S. politics is so contested is because a battle is taking place between two rival growth models. One growth model is represented by the economies of the two coasts – software, media, government, finance, real estate, and the like. The other model is found in the part of the country going from Alaska down the Dakotas through Appalachia, Texas, the panhandle, and so on. This has a growth model based around the transformation, excavation, and derivatives of carbon: farms, fertilizer, and fuel.
These two growth models are in fundamental conflict. The coasts would love green energy, but the more that the U.S. turns green, the worse it is for parts of the country that are heavily invested in carbon assets. As Jeff Colgan, Jessica Green, and Thomas Hale have argued, this gives rise to “existential politics.” Getting to cheap green electricity would effectively devalue or defund North Dakota and Shell. This existential fight is reshaping the Democratic and Republican coalitions.
Which is likely to win?
It’s on a knife edge. If the Democrats win next time around, they can keep on putting facts on the ground – building battery factories and associated technology plants in states like Georgia and turning them blue, or breaking off part of the Texas vote with benefits and infrastructure for wind power. But it’s enormously fragile. If Trump and the Republicans win, it may be the end of the green transition in the U.S. I don’t think people have woken up to that yet.
If Trump wins and the U.S. goes big on the carbon growth model, people there will get a massive short-term return on investment, because the world is carbon short right now, and it needs American liquid natural gas. But as the rest of the world decarbonizes, you know what it won’t need in a decade or so? Very much oil.
https://goodauthority.org/news/how-will-the-world-pay-for-the-green-tr
ansition/
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I already answered this in another thread
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Originally posted by second:
One reason why U.S. politics is so contested is because a battle is taking place between two rival growth models. One growth model is represented by the economies of the two coasts – software, media, government, finance, real estate, and the like...
Except that is not "economy", that is FINANCE. Ignorant people conflate them all the time. Finance is fiddling with money in FIRE (finance, insurance, real estate).
An ECONOMY is based on production of real things: food, timber, steel, cement, fiber, batteries, chips, machine parts, and the like.
Not having an ECONOMY is why the USA is losing the war in Ukraine. Not having an ECONOMY is why we're dependent on China and the value of our dollar, so we can buy things on credit and run a negative balance of trade "forever".Quote:Except that's a stupid characterization.
The other model is found in the part of the country going from Alaska down the Dakotas through Appalachia, Texas, the panhandle, and so on. This has a growth model based around the transformation, excavation, and derivatives of carbon: farms, fertilizer, and fuel.
These two growth models are in fundamental conflict. The coasts would love green energy, but the more that the U.S. turns green, the worse it is for parts of the country that are heavily invested in carbon assets.
Farming, ranching, and forestry has a positive impact, and can have a highly positive impact on GHG, if managed properly.
Industry does need fuel, but there are ways to make it more efficient. One way to make it more efficient is to stop producing wasteful products, like superyachts, private jets, dysfunctional military hardware, and shoddy irreparable consumer goods.
Building production plants that are efficient and that make useful things of durable value is a lot better for the environment AND for our nation than offshoring it to China, India or wherever and having THEM emit GHC.
Part of the reason why "the coasts" might be in love with "green" is bc they have no idea where the "things" in their lives come from.
Food comes from farms. Chocolate milk does NOT come from brown cows! Electrcity comes from power plants. Solar cells come from factories. Clothes are made of fabric, and fabric is made on looms from thread, which comes from mills. Bread comes from bakeries.
Having source tested at all kinds of industries, I'm a lot more aware than most about how stuff is made.
It should be part of every high school curriculum, beside reading, writing, math, homemaking skills, critical thinking, and personal finance, to learn about the world of production. There should be a course on "how things are made" and nothing drives that point home like visiting something big: a refinery, a coking plant, a power plant, a cement kiln, a steel mill, a farm, a water purification plant, even a landfill.Quote:Again, misrepresenting the "sides". "Shell" is not ALL of production. There is a lot of production that ISN'T "Shell", or Exxon, or BPArco.
As Jeff Colgan, Jessica Green, and Thomas Hale have argued, this gives rise to “existential politics.” Getting to cheap green electricity would effectively devalue or defund North Dakota and Shell. This existential fight is reshaping the Democratic and Republican coalitions.
And getting clean cheap electricity?
GREAT, if it happens. But right now that's an irrelevant point bc it hasn't happened yet, and is not likely to happen in the foreseeable future. And in addition, there is lot of production that can't use electricity. You're not about to grow wheat or make cement with electricity.
This article is stupid beyond belief and plays to people's general ignorance and bias.
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Open secret at climate talks: The top temperature goal is mostly gone
Researchers injected a sobering finding into global climate negotiations Sunday by saying the world will likely fail its most important warming test.
By Chelsea Harvey | 12/03/2023 07:00 AM EST
Leading scientists worldwide delivered a striking dose of reality to the United Nations on Sunday: it’s “becoming inevitable” that countries will miss the ambitious target they set eight years ago for limiting the warming of the Earth.
The ominous estimate points to the growing likelihood that global warming will shoot past 1.5 degrees Celsius before the end of this century, inflicting what scientists describe as an overwhelming toll from intensifying storms, drought and heat on people and the economy. It also injects an urgent message into global climate talks in Dubai, where the debate over ramping down fossil fuels is set to flare over the next two weeks.
Surpassing the temperature threshold — even temporarily — would be a major blow to the international Paris climate agreement from 2015, which called for nations to keep global temperatures well within 2 degrees Celsius of their preindustrial levels, and within 1.5 degrees if at all possible. The findings come amid climate talks that for the first time are focused on taking stock of whether almost 200 nations are meeting that goal. Early indications offer a bleak picture.
The 1.5-degree target has become a rallying point for nations attending the COP28 climate talks, despite rising certainty among scientists that the world will spill over that threshold, potentially within a decade. Temperatures have already risen between 1.1 and 1.3 degrees.
It may be possible to bring global temperatures back down again, using still-unproven technological means to draw carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. But at least some overshoot is probably unavoidable, scientists said in the new report to the U.N.
The looming shadow of overshoot is one of 10 stark warnings the researchers presented Sunday in an annual report on top climate science insights from the past year.
More at https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/03/cop28-global-temperature-goal
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