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Friday, October 6, 2023 5:42 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Oh! Are you offended that I would dare talk about the Pope like that?

Go tell tell him your thoughts on abortion and see what your new savior thinks about you.


Fuck Pope Frank and fuck you too.

You also called the Pope a pedophile.

6ix, you have always been a dirtbag, but every Trumptard I know is the same, although some hide what they are, unlike you. But when I dig, the filthiness of their souls are there, even for the most ostentatiously religious Trumptard. Your people are blind to the powerful connection between what they are inside their heads and the troubles they have in the outside world. And so they turn to Trump as Mein Führer, the man who will set right their life. "Trump will be fine. And he will be your next President." Put on that bumper sticker so the world will know you are a Nazi.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, October 8, 2023 5:30 PM

Al Gore Doesn’t Say I Told You So

The former Vice-President revisits his early advocacy for the environment and explains his optimism about two existential crises.

By David Remnick, October 6, 2023

Gore: The climate crisis is really a fossil-fuel crisis. There are other components of it, for sure, but eighty per cent of it is the burning of fossil fuels. And scientists now know—and this is a relatively new finding, a very firm understanding—that, once we stop net additions to the overburden of greenhouse gases, once we reach so-called net zero, then temperatures on Earth will stop going up almost immediately. The lag time is as little as three to five years. They used to think that temperatures would keep on worsening because of positive-feedback loops—and some things, tragically, will. The melting of the ice, for example, will continue, though we can moderate the pace of that; the extinction crisis will continue without other major changes. But we can stop temperatures from going up almost immediately, and that’s the switch we need to flip. And then, if we can stay at true net zero, half of all human-caused greenhouse-gas pollution will fall out of the atmosphere in twenty-five to thirty years. So we can start the long and slow healing process almost immediately, if we act.

Q: What’s required?

We have to find a way to shift out of our dependence on fossil fuels: coal, oil, and gas. And, of course, the fossil-fuel industry, and the financial institutions that have grown codependent on them—

Q: The banks—

The banks and the other large lenders, and associated industries, have, for more than a hundred years, built up a legacy network of political and economic influence. Shockingly, they have managed to convert their economic power into political power with lobbying, and campaign contributions, and the revolving-door phenomenon—where fossil-fuel executives go into the government.

I mean, the last President of the United States made the C.E.O. of ExxonMobil the Secretary of State. It’s almost hard to believe, but that is a symbol of how fossil-fuel companies have penetrated governments around the world. When ExxonMobil or Chevron puts its ads on the air, the purpose is not for a husband and wife to say, “Oh, let’s go down to the store and buy some motor oil.” The purpose is to condition the political space so that they have a continued license to keep producing and selling more and more fossil fuels.

Q: Well, you’re not only an evangelist for climate change; you also are a politician, a seasoned politician.

I’m a recovering politician.

Q: You’re looking better already. Tell me, why is it impossible for politicians to run on this successfully? What are the barriers preventing a day-to-day politician, on the state or national level, from making this an effective electoral cause?

The polluters have gained a high degree of control over the processes of self-government. I’ve often said that, in order to solve the crisis, we have to pay a lot of attention to the democracy crisis. Our representative democracy is not working very well. We have a dual hegemonic ideology called democratic capitalism, and the democracy part of our ideology has been cannibalized, to some extent, by economic actors, who have found ways to convert wealth into political influence. Wealth has always had its usefulness in the political sphere, but much more so in an era in which the candidate who raises the most money, and can buy the most media presence, almost always wins the election. And there’s been kind of evolutionary pressure as to people who go into politics: people who don’t want to put up with that kind of routine shy away from it now. Those who like it are more likely to run and get elected.

Q: Yet another climate summit is coming up, this time in the Middle East. It seems odd who is leading it. How do you feel about that?

Yeah, it’s absurd. This year, the annual United Nations Climate Conference is in the United Arab Emirates, and they have named the head of their national oil

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Sunday, October 8, 2023 8:44 PM

Fuck off, Al.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Monday, October 9, 2023 1:55 PM

The reason why politicians haven't been able to sell "net zero" is because there is no practical substitute for fossil fuels. Yeah, we can cut waste and substitute green energy for a portion. But in order to get to net zero, the elites want to cut everyone else's living standard drastically. And nobody wants some fat cat to be telling THEM to suck it up and do without ... not while the fat cat gets all the cream.

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Friday, October 20, 2023 5:47 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The reason why politicians haven't been able to sell "net zero" is because there is no practical substitute for fossil fuels. Yeah, we can cut waste and substitute green energy for a portion. But in order to get to net zero, the elites want to cut everyone else's living standard drastically. And nobody wants some fat cat to be telling THEM to suck it up and do without ... not while the fat cat gets all the cream.

There are plenty of substitutes for fossil fuels, but people want cheap fuel, not green energy. The reality is that fossil fuels are far cheaper to make than Green energy. To make it really easy to understand, imagine a world powered only by burning wood -- the perfect Green fuel. No petroleum. No natural gas. And no coal because it was buried too deep. The Fat Cats that own all the forests become fabulously rich selling firewood. Assume that the Fat Cats can think ahead and realize that they need to replant the trees sold for firewood. That is kind of a big assumption because so many rich people don't actually think more than a decade ahead, but trees take decades longer to grow.

Suddenly this world fueled by the perfect renewable green fuel, firewood, is totally turned upside down by strip-mined coal. There will be no more waiting for trees to slowly grow. Instead, as much coal as the world wants is being dug out of the ground and sold. Going from Firewood World to Coal World will make a totally different group of rich people. It is also guaranteed to ruin the world once enough coal has been burnt. We are now living in something very much like Coal World because coal is cheaper than wood in Firewood World. Other fossil fuels even cheaper than coal are now available. In every imaginable world, coal will always be cheaper than wood, the perfect renewable green fuel.

The Science of a Wood-Burning Locomotive



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 20, 2023 5:53 PM

October 19, 2023 - The Alaska Department of Fish and Game announced the snow crab harvest season was canceled for the second year in a row.

Billions of snow crabs have disappeared from the ocean around Alaska in recent years, and scientists know why: Warmer ocean temperatures caused them to starve to death.

Snow crabs are cold-water species and found overwhelmingly in areas where water temperatures are below 2 degrees Celsius, though they can function in waters up to 12 degrees Celsius, according to the study. Warmer ocean water likely wreaked havoc on the crabs’ metabolism and increased their caloric needs.

The amount of energy crabs needed from food in 2018 — the first year of a two-year marine heat wave in the region — may have been as much as quadrupled compared to the previous year, researchers found. But with the heat disrupting much of the Bering Sea’s food web, snow crabs had a hard time foraging for food and weren’t able to keep up with the caloric demand.

Normally, there is a temperature barrier in the ocean that prevents species like Pacific cod from reaching the crabs’ extremely cold habitat. But during the heat wave, the Pacific cod were able to go to these warmer-than-usual waters and ate a portion of what was left of the crab population.

“2018 and 2019 were an extreme anomaly in sea ice in the Bering Sea, something that we’d never seen before,” Szuwalski said. “There was maybe 4% of the coverage of ice that we’ve historically seen, and to know whether or not that’s going to continue going forward is hard to say.”

What’s happening with Alaska’s crabs is proof the climate crisis is rapidly accelerating and impacting livelihoods, Szuwalski said. He knew this was going to happen at some point, but he “didn’t expect it to happen so soon.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/us/alaska-crabs-ocean-heat-climate/inde
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 20, 2023 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The reason why politicians haven't been able to sell "net zero" is because there is no practical substitute for fossil fuels. Yeah, we can cut waste and substitute green energy for a portion. But in order to get to net zero, the elites want to cut everyone else's living standard drastically. And nobody wants some fat cat to be telling THEM to suck it up and do without ... not while the fat cat gets all the cream.



You can't even bother trying to talk reason with a simpleminded cultist.

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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 4:13 PM

Airlines say they’ve found a route to climate-friendly flying

Aviation produces about 2.5 percent of global carbon dioxide emissions. If you add in the heat-trapping effects of water vapor in contrails and other pollutants, air travel accounts for about 4 percent of the warming across the planet induced by humans to date. It may seem like a small slice of the climate change problem, but if left unchecked, aviation’s carbon dioxide emissions are poised to double by 2050. “The biggest problem is that demand is rising,” said Gökçin Çinar, an assistant professor of aerospace engineering at the University of Michigan. Even as aircraft grow more fuel-efficient per passenger, more flyers will lead to more greenhouse gases.

However, decarbonizing aircraft is a huge technical challenge. To get a 400,000-pound airliner off the ground, up to 35,000 feet, and across an ocean, you need to squeeze an enormous amount of energy into a tiny space at the lowest weight possible. This trait is called specific energy, which is measured in watt-hours per kilogram or megajoules per kilogram. The best lithium-ion batteries top out around 300 watt-hours per kilogram. Jet fuel has a specific energy around 12,000 watt-hours per kilogram. And as an airplane burns fuel, it gets lighter, increasing its efficiency and range, whereas a dead battery weighs just as much as a live one. Swapping a gasoline engine for an electric motor in a car is trivial in comparison.

More at https://www.vox.com/climate/23922939/airline-united-climate-change-sus
tainable-fuel-emissions-offset-saf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 6:49 PM

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Airlines say they’ve found a route to climate-friendly flying


NO, NOT REALLY. The article continues...

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However, demand [for air travel] is high and supplies are minuscule, making SAF [sustainable aviation fuel] upward of four times as expensive as conventional fuel. For most airlines, fuel is already their biggest or second-biggest expense.

So airlines are stuck in a holding pattern where their cheapest and easiest option for decarbonization doesn’t really work while their best bet is still wildly expensive. The consulting firm McKinsey estimated that decarbonizing aviation would require $175 billion in investments each year until 2050, almost $5 trillion in total. At the same time, demand for flights is poised to climb, and the window for keeping warming in check across the planet is sliding shut. Companies are also bracing for more emissions regulations as governments turn their attention to the climate impacts of aviation.

Air travel is thus one of the most difficult climate change problems, and some airlines are candid that they don’t quite know how to land at net zero. “We do not have the solutions we need at scale in a commercial capacity to really change the way we fly without focused, concerted engagement by the industry to demand a different way of flying,” said Lauren Riley, United’s chief sustainability officer. “Our emissions will go up before they go down.”

At the same time, the DoD is also looking at SAF, leading to increased demand for a scarce fuel. Flying will NEVER be net zero. The DoD won't be either.
Just eliminate private jets, make flying way more expensive, and cut the DoD budget.

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That’s why they’re trying out a suite of tactics across both incremental and breakthrough advances. But technology alone won’t clean up the skies; it will also take pressure from policymakers and passengers to get to the destination of net-zero.

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There are some important caveats to SAF. “It is not ‘zero emissions’ but ‘net-zero emissions’ when you look at the life cycle,” Çinar said. “It’s still the same combustion process.” Burning SAF produces carbon dioxide, as well many of the same pollutants as conventional fuels like nitrogen oxides and soot.

The carbon accounting can also get tricky. It takes energy to refine, process, and transport SAF. If that energy comes from burning fossil fuels, SAF will lead to a net increase in greenhouse gas emissions. And if you clear wilderness to plant BIOFUEL CROPS* to make SAF, that also increases its carbon footprint. Nevertheless, the overall climate impact is still far smaller than conventional fuels.


* They've already tried this trick with gasoline-ethanol blend, and all it did was lead to more corn growing in overfertilized fields and nitrogen runoff (and algae blooms). And if 'they' (in the EU) think that manure-spreading causes too much N2O emissions, just wait until people start throwing fertilizer everywhere on everything.

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Greenhouse gas emissions from global production and use of nitrogen synthetic fertilisers in agriculture

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-18773-w

This article is what I call it 'greenwashing'. There's no way to make air travel (or war-making) climate friendly, and they're both unnecessary expenses. Yeah, I know the airlines and the MIC just want to keep on making money, but these are two sectors that should shrivel. The associated companies should find another way to make $$.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 7:14 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

This article is what I call it 'greenwashing'. There's no way to make air travel (or war-making) climate friendly, and they're both unnecessary expenses. Yeah, I know the airlines and the MIC just want to keep on making money, but these are two sectors that should shrivel. The associated companies should find another way to make $$.

Why not just ban all flights, except on dirigibles with solar-powered motors? Even hot air balloons are banned because of propane-fueled flame.

While we're banning, no more engines on ships. Instead, only sailboats. One exception: wood-burning paddle boats are allowed, but not coal-burning. And bring back the steam engine locomotive burning wood, not coal.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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