The Marvels Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 00:56
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be...
Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-ma
rvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks
Fuck you too, Steve.
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They'll never learn that YOU DON'T PISS OFF THE FAN BASE!! I get the feeling that they think we're 'suppose' to see their garbage, when you lose a costumer they stay gone!
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be...
Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-ma
rvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks
Fuck you too, Steve.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
They'll never learn that YOU DON'T PISS OFF THE FAN BASE!! I get the feeling that they think we're 'suppose' to see their garbage, when you lose a costumer they stay gone!
Absolutely.
Steve says a ton of dumb Lefty shit no Twitter everyday. He's a regular George Takai.
The same day he said this, he said he's not into comic books and doesn't watch MCU movies.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I guess Nia DaCosta lost her mind the other day and went on an anti-white/anti-male tirade for her movie failing as hard as it is.
'‘The Marvels’ Director Nia DaCosta Describes Critics Of Woke Marvel As “Virulent And Violent And Racist And Sexist And Homophobic”'
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/11/15/the-marvels-director-nia-dac
osta-describes-critics-of-woke-marvel-as-virulent-and-violent-and-racist-and-sexist-and-homophobic/
I take back any nice things I said about her.
Fuck her. Fuck her movie. Fuck her career.
I will never watch a movie that she directs.
By the way, bitch. Your movie made only $1.2 Million on Thursday. You're going to have your first sub-Million day on day 11 just like Blue Beetle did. Good luck hitting $200 Million worldwide.
And good luck trying to get 3rd place this weekend. Thanksgiving is right on your tail and it was playing in 1,310 theaters less than your shit was. You might drop to 4th place by the time the weekend is over.
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Friday's projections are already in.
1. Songbirds and Snakes: $13.45 Million ($19.2 Million - $5.75 Million Thursday Previews)
2. Trolls Band Together: $8.07 Million ($9.37 Million - $1.3 Million Thursday Previews)
3. Thanksgiving: $2.825 ($3.825 Million - $1 Million Thursday Previews)
4. The Marvels: $2.8 Million
Fuck you, Nia. That's an -87% drop from Opening Night.
Despite all the movie tracking services saying otherwise, looks like you just had your ass handed to you not only by Trolls, but by Thanksgiving as well.
Blue Beetle only dropped -74% on its second Friday.
Nia DaCost-Bob-Iger-a lotta money.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be...
Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-ma
rvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks
Fuck you too, Steve.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
They'll never learn that YOU DON'T PISS OFF THE FAN BASE!! I get the feeling that they think we're 'suppose' to see their garbage, when you lose a costumer they stay gone!
Absolutely.
Steve says a ton of dumb Lefty shit no Twitter everyday. He's a regular George Takai.
The same day he said this, he said he's not into comic books and doesn't watch MCU movies.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
I'm still a fan of King, I'm not going to stop rewatching 'Chistine' because he's a left wing dimwit. He's been able to keep lefty politics out of his books and films, he should know that you should give the fan base what they want, not what YOU want. I wonder if he's going to say 'Christine' is a Republican because she's red?
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Originally posted by whozit:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be...
Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-ma
rvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks
Fuck you too, Steve.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
They'll never learn that YOU DON'T PISS OFF THE FAN BASE!! I get the feeling that they think we're 'suppose' to see their garbage, when you lose a costumer they stay gone!
Absolutely.
Steve says a ton of dumb Lefty shit no Twitter everyday. He's a regular George Takai.
The same day he said this, he said he's not into comic books and doesn't watch MCU movies.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
I'm still a fan of King, I'm not going to stop rewatching 'Chistine' because he's a left wing dimwit. He's been able to keep lefty politics out of his books and films, he should know that you should give the fan base what they want, not what YOU want. I wonder if he's going to say 'Christine' is a Republican because she's red?
You may want to stay away from Holly...
My old man has been a King fan since the Bachman days, but he's reading Holly now (which is a continuation of a series he's enjoyed, apparently), and he's on the fence if he's going to finish it or not.
Here's a discussion about the book on Reddit.
'Holly' is one of Stephen King's most political novels to date
https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/16bzmn0/holly_is_one_of_stephe
n_kings_most_political/
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Last weekend I predicted this flick would have a drop off of around 60%, I was wrong, it's going to be well over 70%
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Last weekend I predicted this flick would have a drop off of around 60%, I was wrong, it's going to be well over 70%
Yeah. Good call. You probably didn't see it with all the other stuff I've been posting, but I did say that I thought you were probably right.
Unfortunately though, that did mean Songbirds and Snakes did better than I wanted it to, which was my biggest concern about a dropoff too hard for The Marvels.
Here, it was on November 16th:
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Originally posted by whozit:
$47 mill, wanna take bets on how bad a drop off for next weekend? I'm going to predict over 60%
You may be right.
BoxOfficePro predicts a -65% drop for The Marvels in the 2nd weekend with only $16 Million this weekend.
https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-forecast-the-hunger-ga
mes-the-ballad-of-songbirds-and-snakes-next-goal-wins-trolls-band-together-and-thanksgiving/
Good news for people who wanted to see this crash and burn. Bad news probably for people who also wanted to see Songbirds and Snakes crash and burn.
Looks like Rachel Zegler destroys Disney profits whether she's working for them or not.
Everybody go see Trolls!
$16 Million? They WISH!
It looks like The Marvels and Thanksgiving are in a virtual 3rd place tie right now at $10.2 Million each for weekend 2. That would be a staggering -78% drop, which beats Five Nights at Freddy's -76%. I've only been tracking movies deeply for about a year, but until FNAF dropped -76% I'd never seen a drop that hard before. It didn't take long for The Marvels to break that (at least one year) record.
Archive: https://archive.ph/M7NGJ (I archived this because by tomorrow this will change and be lost forever. Even though they're tied at $10.2 Million, Bruce put The Marvels above Thanksgiving).
So what's Disney's psychology on the projections for the 2nd weekend? I called it on opening weekend that we'd see the first time where a major studio actually claimed nearly $1 Million more in projections opening week instead of $1-$3 lower than reality.
Did Disney try and repeat that this weekend and now risks being absolutely humiliated when Thanksgiving ends up making more and pushing it into 4th place, or did they already see that no amount of lying and puffing up numbers on Weekend 2 was going to matter so they safely land ahead of Thanksgiving in 3rd place?
Did they lowball it like they usually would have and are they going to match FNAF's -76% drop, or did they highball it again and maybe they end up with an -80% drop in reality?
Also, although Trolls Band Together didn't beat Songbirds and Snakes, it's projected to have made nearly $31 Million and that's almost double what Bruce's model predicted that it would make. It appears to have taken about $10 Million of that from his prediction for The Marvels which made exactly half of what he predicted it would this weekend and the rest came from The Holdovers and Next Goal Wins, which both made about half of what Bruce predicted.
Universal just keeps putting out the hits in 2023 and it's no wonder they're by far the most profitable studio this year. If it weren't for their massive Renfield flop early this year, they might have actually made $2 Billion in profit using the 2.5x RoT model.
I'm really pushing for Trolls to take 2nd place behind Wish next weekend and pushing S&S and The Marvels even further down than their lowly out of the gates performances doomed them to.
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It looks like The Marvels and Thanksgiving are in a virtual 3rd place tie right now at $10.2 Million each for weekend 2. That would be a staggering -78% drop, which beats Five Nights at Freddy's -76%. I've only been tracking movies deeply for about a year, but until FNAF dropped -76% I'd never seen a drop that hard before. It didn't take long for The Marvels to break that (at least one year) record.
Archive: https://archive.ph/M7NGJ (I archived this because by tomorrow this will change and be lost forever. Even though they're tied at $10.2 Million, Bruce put The Marvels above Thanksgiving).
So what's Disney's psychology on the projections for the 2nd weekend? I called it on opening weekend that we'd see the first time where a major studio actually claimed nearly $1 Million more in projections opening week instead of $1-$3 lower than reality.
Did Disney try and repeat that this weekend and now risks being absolutely humiliated when Thanksgiving ends up making more and pushing it into 4th place, or did they already see that no amount of lying and puffing up numbers on Weekend 2 was going to matter so they safely land ahead of Thanksgiving in 3rd place?
Did they lowball it like they usually would have and are they going to match FNAF's -76% drop, or did they highball it again and maybe they end up with an -80% drop in reality?
Universal slightly lowballed their prediction for Thanksgiving, and Disney slightly highballed their projection for The Marvels.
Thanksgiving comes in 3rd place with $10,306,272, and The Marvels gets 4th place on its second weekend with only $10,120,589.
Fuck you racist/sexist Disney. Fuck you racist/sexist diversity hire Nia. And Fuck your woke trash movie that nobody is paying to see.
Sorry about that, Iman. I hope you ditch Disney and go work for Universal where they still know how to make movies that people will pay to watch.
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Once again, I had to do what turned out to be the smallest amount of research to debunk claims that what I'm going to start calling idiot YouTubers are falsely making about The Marvels.
No. The Marvels did NOT break the record for the largest 2nd weekend drop of all time.
Though it was the largest drop I'd ever witnessed, I've only been deeply tracking movies for little under a year now and though it was the largest I'd ever witnessed, I assumed that it wasn't the largest 2nd weekend drop of all time.
It turns out that BoxOfficeMojo already tracks this data, and The Marvels lands at #25 on this list.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/biggest_second_weekend_gross_drop/
Now, would I count a lot of movies that landed on the list above The Marvels?
No. I wouldn't.
2 of them would be removed right off the bat. One being a 2019 re-release of The Wizard of Oz, and the other being a 2017 re-release of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
I also wouldn't count any movies that grossed under $1 Million on opening weekend either, just assuming that they were not wide-screen releases (If I really cared, I'd spend time to do a deeper dive into them).
I'd also remove anime titles and TV Episodes that always are super front-loaded and released for a niche audience.
So here would be what I consider the legitimate list:
1. Collide (2016) -88.5%
2. Before I Go To Sleep (2014) -82%
3. Gigli (2003) -81.9%
4. Replicas (2019) -81.5%
5. Return to the Blue Lagoon (1991) -80.8%
6. Friday the 13th (2009) -80.4%
7. Halloween Ends (2022) -80%
8. Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace (1996) -79.8%
9. Calendar Girl (1993) -79.7%
10. Another You (1991) -78.2%
11. The Squeeze (1987) -78.1%
12. The Marvels (2023) -78.1%
It's the first Cape Flick to get a 2nd week drop that high, but it's hardly the first movie to ever perform that poorly on the 2nd weekend.
Everybody needs to be factual with the data here. It's far too easy to disprove lies when the math is out there for anybody to read for themselves.
The YouTubers need to stop lying, especially on their thumbnails, for click-bait.
We're finally winning here, but they're going to de-legitimatize all of it for clout, and give the other side ammo for calling anybody who is actively rooting for these movies to fail disingenuous online trolls.
STOP claiming that a movie needs to make 300% to break even when that is a lie (I'M LOOKING DIRECTLY AT YOU HERE, RYAN KINEL). STOP making untrue claims like The Marvels is the worst performing movie of all time when that is a lie.
These trash movies are finally falling flat on their own faces and they don't need your help.
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Quote:6ixStringJack, thanks for the reminder of what motivates you to write about movies. (Parenthetically, 6ix is a Trump worshiper, which pretty much explains all his bitterness and estrangement toward any industry or group despising 6ix's personal savior/god, Donald Trump.)
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck you racist/sexist Disney. Fuck you racist/sexist diversity hire Nia. And Fuck your woke trash movie that nobody is paying to see.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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