The Marvels Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
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Satire about post-credit scene in The Marvels:
LOS ANGELES—Following the conclusion of The Marvels, the latest film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a post-credits scene teases a much better film that all the actors could’ve been in if the MCU didn’t exist. “After the credits rolled, the screen opened on a mature, compelling drama that featured Brie Larson and Teyonah Parris depicting complex and nuanced characters,” film critic Ross Bowden said Monday, describing the post-credits scene’s intriguing glimpse into an alternate reality in which the entertainment industry wasn’t plagued with the incessant onslaught of mass-produced superhero blockbuster slop, thereby allowing the actors in The Marvels to accept roles that were creatively fulfilling. “You can see how proud the actors are in their work in this hypothetical film. The scene gives a short-but-sweet taste of how the people involved in the making of this film could have created something worth watching instead of churning out the bland, overproduced content represented in The Marvels. You can actually tell the performers are reacting to each other’s emotions and not just standing in front of a green screen. It’s amazing.” At press time, Marvel fans had reportedly slammed the post-credits scene as “so boring.”
https://www.theonion.com/post-credits-marvels-scene-teases-better-film
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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‘The Marvels’ flop shows that Kevin Feige’s ‘brilliance,’ which drove $29B for Marvel, is no match for Disney’s insatiable need for content
Mon, November 13, 2023 at 9:55 AM CST
A major reason for the film's flop is that the workload placed on Marvel's chief creative engine, president Kevin Feige, is starting to catch up with him, according to the authors of the recently published MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios.
Feige was the man most responsible for delivering Marvel's string of blockbusters, starting with 2008's Iron Man, and turning the studio into a dominant player in Hollywood. But as Marvel's ambitions grew and the studio churned out an increasing number of streaming shows to go along with its usual theatrical releases, it has struggled to stretch Feige's talents, Dave Gonzales, Gavin Edwards, and longtime pop culture journalist and chronicler of superhero movies Joanna Robinson write in MCU. Since Disney—Marvel’s parent company—launched its Disney+ streaming service in 2019, Feige has been overextended, they argue.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/marvels-flop-shows-kevin-feige-15553749
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I doubt this explanation. It is not lower ticket sales caused by lower quality. I don't think the quality has dropped at all. It is lower ticket sales caused by excessive quantity. It is too much of the same old thing too frequently. When you can get Hollywood's movies for free, if you wait a month, why go to the theater with its snacks that cost more than the ticket?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yeah. It's great watching the Legacy Media finally turn on Disney/Marvel.
2 years ago Second would be telling me that The Marvels wasn't made for me, but look at how he's grown.
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I'm bumping this because I hate having the 50th post and having it buried on the previous page.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (November 11th):
Normally, this is where I'd mention that usually projections, especially on opening weekend, are lower than reality because the studio doesn't want to embarrass themselves, but I'm not sure about what Disney's psychology on this one is going to be right now.
Risk lowballing the numbers on opening night as per usual and make all the Saturday headlines even worse than they were going to be, or risk highballing the Friday prediction and possibly project low for Sunday to still come in lower than the actual numbers that are posted on Monday?
My money is that Disney's projected numbers for Friday are actually higher than reality just because the headlines that are going to come out today are embarrassing enough already. They might throw out convention entirely here and highball the whole damn weekend just to try to salvage some of the headlines with their shill outfits like Variety and Deadline and hope that not too many people are listening to the people like me who would catch them in the act come Monday if they try that.
Am I awesome or am I awesome?
The Marvels ACTUAL weekend gross Domestic: $46,110,859
In the entire time that I've been tracking movies, I've NEVER seen a studio highball their weekend prediction. Not once. Until now. And I called it.
In fact, I've said on at least half a dozen occasions when posting about a new movie that just came out that it will probably have $1 or $2 Million more when the actual numbers come in (It's all in my post history).
I'm in Bob Iger's head now.
The ragebaiters on YouTube all seemed to have missed this, but I didn't Bob. I'm calling you out.
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Quote:Per your usual, you misunderstand the simplest ideas. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is selling fewer tickets because each new movie is more of the same goddamn old baloney served up too often. The Avatar movie series learned a lesson of not repeating themselves at too short an interval by changing when the next movie will arrive.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. It's great watching the Legacy Media finally turn on Disney/Marvel.
2 years ago Second would be telling me that The Marvels wasn't made for me, but look at how he's grown.
The Avatar interval was to be once every two years. That is too frequent. The interval was revised to 3 years and 4 years. The next Avatar, #3, has already been completely filmed, and Avatar #4 partially filmed because the actors are small children who will be adults long before Avatar #4 arrives. It is possible for a new Avatar every 6 months, but that would ruin ticket sales because an Avatar movie wouldn't be a special once-in-the-lifetime-of-a-child event.
Avatar 1 (2009)
Avatar 2 The Way of Water (2022)
Avatar 3 (2025)
Avatar 4 (2029)
If Avatar was scheduled like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, there would be an Avatar every year, or two in June and December, until adult audiences refused to go to the stupid things because each new Avatar movie is another slice of the same moldy baloney. There is only so much of those movies you can consume without getting sick enough to vomit. They sure look good, but the stories are stupid as hell.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
‘The Marvels’ flop shows that Kevin Feige’s ‘brilliance,’ which drove $29B for Marvel, is no match for Disney’s insatiable need for content
Mon, November 13, 2023 at 9:55 AM CST
A major reason for the film's flop is that the workload placed on Marvel's chief creative engine, president Kevin Feige, is starting to catch up with him, according to the authors of the recently published MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios.
Feige was the man most responsible for delivering Marvel's string of blockbusters, starting with 2008's Iron Man, and turning the studio into a dominant player in Hollywood. But as Marvel's ambitions grew and the studio churned out an increasing number of streaming shows to go along with its usual theatrical releases, it has struggled to stretch Feige's talents, Dave Gonzales, Gavin Edwards, and longtime pop culture journalist and chronicler of superhero movies Joanna Robinson write in MCU. Since Disney—Marvel’s parent company—launched its Disney+ streaming service in 2019, Feige has been overextended, they argue.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/marvels-flop-shows-kevin-feige-15553749
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I doubt this explanation. It is not lower ticket sales caused by lower quality. I don't think the quality has dropped at all.
You're right and you're wrong.
The quality IS low, but it wasn't caused by lower ticket sales.
The Marvels began production in July of 2021. Yes, this is the same month that Black Widow kicked off Phase 4 and flopped, but they didn't know that yet. The two MCU movies that had come out before production started were Avengers: End Game and Spider-Man: Far From Home. They made $2,788,912,285 and $1,132,107,522, respectively.
And while Phase 4 saw some sad returns like Shang Chi and Thor: Love and Thunder, the only other flop it put out was Eternals in November of 2021. Dr Strange and the Multiverse of Madness made $952,224,986, Wakanda Forever made $853,985,546 and Spider-Man: No Way Home made $1,907,836,254.
Even though Disney wasn't in charge of No Way Home, it was still making bank with 2 movies that made nearly a Billion dollars after The Marvels started shooting. Even though Thor: Love and Thunder was awful and only grossed over $700k it still made money.
Where the quality really drops is the Disney+ TV shows that are pretty much universally hated or just completely ignored.
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It is lower ticket sales caused by excessive quantity. It is too much of the same old thing too frequently.
Lower quality AND excessive quantity.
You can't have both.
You are completely discounting the fact that they're forcing an agenda in their flicks and people don't want to see that. You can get away with that for a while, but when it's constantly being thrown in your face even the completely non-political normies grow tired of it eventually. Especially when the stories suck, the characters suck, the direction is bad and every Marvel movie is formulaic and you already know exactly how it's going to end because you never once fear that anyone is in any danger at all. And now that they've thrown the Multiverse in there, even the rare death doesn't matter anymore if they kill off one of their cash-cows like they did multiple times over in End Game.
You're also discounting the fact that Disney/Marvel has already burned most of its A-List characters and is scraping the bottom of the barrel with Shang-Chi, Eternals and any one of The Marvels. Even in the comics they've rebooted Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel so many times it's silly. Nobody buys those comics.
Now that they're going to bring the X-Men in the universe, if Kevin Feige were smart, he'd have Anna Paquin's Rogue turn Brie Larson's Carol Danvers into a vegetable. That movie would make $1.5 Billion easy just for that scene alone, even if it were a bad movie.
https://www.cbr.com/captain-marvel-rogue-steals-powers/
It wouldn't
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I heard that both Marvels and Snow White cost $300 M.
It used to be that The Onion would assign names in stories for specific purposes of reference, but I check film critic Ross Bowden and only get a direct link to this one specific story. So no backstory, apparently.
I also heard that there is a new South Park episode, reflecting on Kathleen Kennedy, where all of the South Park characters have been re-cast as diversity tards.
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I keep hearing the excuse for rock bottom Opening Box Office is because "the Strikes"
Who is going to believe that insipid rot?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I also heard that there is a new South Park episode, reflecting on Kathleen Kennedy, where all of the South Park characters have been re-cast as diversity tards.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/10/12/south-park-mocks-ho
llywood-trend-of-recasting-characters-as-minority-women/
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I heard that both Marvels and Snow White cost $300 M.
Initially Variety said The Marvels only cost $130 Million. A week later Deadline reported it was at least double that. Since then I've heard varying stories. Some said it was $330 Million but they got a 55 million UK subsidy so it was $275 Million, others say that it cost $275 Million but the subsidy drops it down to $218 Million. Those costs were for what they reported to the UK for the original shoot, so none of that includes the extensive reshoots.
So who knows what it cost...
Bruce reports it cost $274.8 Million at the-numbers, so that's what I'm going with. It needs $685 Million to break even.
I heard the same thing about Snow White. That one is going to cost half a billion by the time they're done tweaking it.
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It used to be that The Onion would assign names in stories for specific purposes of reference, but I check film critic Ross Bowden and only get a direct link to this one specific story. So no backstory, apparently.
I also heard that there is a new South Park episode, reflecting on Kathleen Kennedy, where all of the South Park characters have been re-cast as diversity tards.
Yeah. I watched it with my old man the other day. It was funny.
"Put a chick in it. Make her gay and lame." ~Kathleen Kennedy
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I keep hearing the excuse for rock bottom Opening Box Office is because "the Strikes"
Who is going to believe that insipid rot?
Yeah. It's bullshit.
I just tell anybody who says that that Five Nights at Freddy's came out during the strike, didn't get promoted, cost 12 times less than The Marvels, was available to stream for free with a $5.99/mo. Peacock subscription, and it's still going to make more money than The Marvels will.
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