Hollywood's Abysmal 2023 in Numbers

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, November 7, 2023 8:45 AM

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Well, well, well...

I don't know what happened in America that sent FNAF straight down the tubes after Tuesday, but it appears that the rest of the world didn't agree with that decision.
Not a decision. Pirates did their thing to make the movie available for FREE:

Pirates make EVERY movie free, stupid.

Not just in America, but the entire world, stupid.

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SECOND

Tuesday, November 7, 2023 10:31 AM

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Well, well, well...

I don't know what happened in America that sent FNAF straight down the tubes after Tuesday, but it appears that the rest of the world didn't agree with that decision.
Not a decision. Pirates did their thing to make the movie available for FREE:

Pirates make EVERY movie free, stupid.

Not just in America, but the entire world, stupid.

The Pirated version is only in English. There are no subtitle files for other languages. Mexico and Brazil can't use the English-only version. https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Five-Nights-at-Freddys-(2023)#tab=in
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6ix, you are stupider than you can know, which must feel great since you can keep your superiority complex going until it suddenly kills you. By that, I mean stupid people tend to lose years of life.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, November 7, 2023 11:32 AM

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Well, well, well...

I don't know what happened in America that sent FNAF straight down the tubes after Tuesday, but it appears that the rest of the world didn't agree with that decision.
Not a decision. Pirates did their thing to make the movie available for FREE:

Pirates make EVERY movie free, stupid.

Not just in America, but the entire world, stupid.
The Pirated version is only in English. There are no subtitle files for other languages. Mexico and Brazil can't use the English-only version. https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Five-Nights-at-Freddys-(2023)#tab=in
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Your pirated version is only in English.

This movie was available to stream for free on Peacock since Day 1, retard. That's how it was pirated on day 1, retard.

There are also many people outside of America who speak English, simply because such a disproportionate amount of worthwhile movies and TV shows for many decades came from Hollywood.

I brought up in the last post that you quoted that it's possible this was not being streamed in countries outside of the US by Peacock, which would mean that their only option to see the movie outside of piracy (or, assuming Peacock is even available in other countries by using a VPN with an American server and an English only version) would be in the theaters. The fact that you could stream FNAF at home or download a pirated copy in the US both from Day 1 didn't stop people from going out to see it on the first weekend.

If this wasn't available to stream outside of the US, there is a much higher probability that people went to the theaters to see it because of the lack of streaming options than the diversity in languages in pirated versions. The same people who were pirating everything else were going to pirate this too. People who don't pirate everything else weren't going to pirate FNAF.

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6ix, you are stupider than you can know, which must feel great since you can keep your superiority complex going until it suddenly kills you. By that, I mean stupid people tend to lose years of life.

Dumb shit like this means nothing coming from the 2nd stupidest person I've ever known other than Ted.

Why don't you tell us again about how Disney is making all the right decisions or how it's tied to the S&P 500.

You're wrong about literally everything, especially when it comes to movies. I'd suggest you exit the CINEMA threads now and go back to your political cultist behavior where you only embarrass yourself in front of 6 other people on a daily basis.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, November 7, 2023 8:43 PM

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Still though, even if it doesn't join the 1,000% club, 900% and a 6th or 7th place finish for the year is pretty damn good for a movie that critics went out of their way to hate on while being available to watch at home since day one. It would rank 4th among the 2023 Horror releases while grossing more than all of them did and only being so low because of it's $25 Million budget. Talk to Me had a budget of only $4.5 Million. M3GAN's budget was $12 Million and Insidious' budget was $16 Million.

Also, it would be the 2nd highest grossing Horror movie of 2023, only behind The Nun II's $265 Million current take... a feat that it should accomplish before the beginning of Weekend 3 if it doesn't succeed in that by Sunday.

Well... Now we know because of the high International numbers that FNAF is going to at least get 900% despite the huge drop in Domestic numbers last weekend, some outfits are already predicting that FNAF has a very good chance of being the #1 Grossing Horror flick of 2023.

The Nun II is just under $269 Million, while FNAF sits at just under $216 Million. I haven't been paying mind to the International additions to The Nun II from week to week, so I don't know if its run is done worldwide or not, but it's only grossing in the 10's of thousands on the weekend in the States now, so it's just about finished here.

$53 Million is still a lot to gain considering the massive drop in the US over the weekend. I said before I think it makes about $10 to $15 Million in the US over 7 days through Weekend 3 though, so that would only be $37 to $43 Million more. Even with a good International take next weekend, I don't see this happening that early.

There are far too many variables at play to really give a prediction on this, but if we see the International market have a more traditional decline, and especially if the US market stabilizes now and goes back to a more traditional decline from how far and quickly it has fallen, I think there's a pretty good chance.

At $269 Million, FNAF will join the 1,000% club and land in 6th place for 2023 above Barbie and Oppenheimer with 1,076%.

It would need $295 Million to tie with Insidious, and I think that's probably out of the question. If it were to manage that feat, that's as far as it's going to go because it's never going to see the 1,362% it would need to bump the Super Mario Bros. Movie for 4th place.

In any event, this $25M indie destroyed Killers of the Flower Moon both in the US and Worldwide. And if it manages to beat The Nun II it will have outgrossed 3 out of the 5 Super Hero movies that have come out so far this year.

Can it take down The Marvels too?

Probably not... But I'm really looking forward to the next few weeks so we can finally watch The Marvels, Songbirds and Snakes and Wish fail at the box office.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, November 8, 2023 7:24 AM

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I'm actually quite surprised at how much this has made internationally. The first weekend looked to almost mirror my prediction for Domestic to International share, but after a steep drop of -60% for the 2nd weekend in the US, the drop internationally either wasn't that large or it had opened a week late in numerous other territories to make up for it. Right now, it's $47 Million Domestic and $56 Million International (or 45.4% Domestic / 54.6% International). The international figures are actually better than that because there have been 5 days of Domestic numbers added that won't be added for the International numbers until Monday or Tuesday.

This is still going to be a collisal flop, but it has already pulled in $104 Million worldwide without taking this weeks Internationals into account.

I think it's pretty safe to say that it will beat Shazam II's $132 Million, so it's going to do better than I thought it would thanks to the international audience.

There's no way it's hitting $200 Million like that quoted article said it might, but it probably does somewhere around that $150 Million I stated in reply, give or take about $5 Million.

After the weekend and the international tally we're at $119.6 Million with a 44.2% Domestic / 55.8% International split on Killers.

That's only $10 Million added to the International numbers from the previous weekend, so unless the numbers reporting is strange for this one, it's no longer doing very well overseas.

Killers had its first sub-Million Domestic day on Monday with only $674k.

At nearly $120 Million already I still think that grossing more moneythan Shazam II should be quite easy for Killers, but I still don't think it will beat $150 Million, or 75% of its production budget.

At 60% of its production budget currently, it's moved up from last place on the 2023 list to 57th place, right behind Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken's 66%.

My initial prediction for Killers was that it would match Ruby Gillman. That was before it did far better internationally than I thought it would. If it hits around my $150 Million target, it will move up to 53rd place for 2023, right above Strays, and considerably below Shazam II.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:13 PM

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The Wokecercist seems to be doing pretty well overseas with over $40 Million of its $85 Million current total. It's made 283% of its production budget back so far, which already means that it's a winner. It's sitting at 21st place now if my previous statements on the top 20 are correct.

I don't imagine that Killers of the Flower Moon are going to hurt it any more than it hurts itself next weekend. Five Nights at Freddies will almost certainly put an end to it the following weekend though. Priscilla (the new Elvis-related biopic about Elvis being a pedophile) probably won't hurt anything the week after that, except possible overlap with the Killers of the Flower Moon audience.

Obviously, FNAF has been beating Exorcist: Believer into the ground since it came out. But it had pretty much fallen off a cliff before that. I don't think Killers ever hurt Wokecercist's numbers. It is at 436% now, so it does move up two spots on the chart above the similarly named horror movie The Pope's Exorcist and John Wick: Chapter 4 for 17th place.

Similarly, I can't really tell if Priscilla did any damage to the mortally-wounded-out-of-the-gates Killers of the Flower Moon either. Killers seems to have stopped the bleeding with only a -26% drop on Weekend 3 after a -60% drop on Weekend 2 and an abysmal Opening Weekend. But I can't say whether Priscilla had any impact here or not. Nobody is going to the theaters right now.

Last weekend's total box office was only $56.65 Million. The weekend prior when FNAF opened, the total box office was $118.75 Million, with $80 Million of that going to FNAF. The weekend before when Killers opened and Eras Tour had its 2nd Weekend showing, the total box office was only $76.9 Million.

Priscilla is a complete non-entity. On a $20 Million budget, it's only made $5.08 Million since it went wide. Its opening weekend in only 4 theaters looked very admirable with over $33k per theater, but that didn't translate well to a wide release. Even though technically a movie in 600 theaters is "Wide", Priscilla's 1,359 theaters is very small for a wide release compared to most blockbusters getting over 3,500 theaters and most mega-blockbusters get near or over 4,000 theaters.

Priscilla is going to just be forgotten. In fact, it won't even come close to making my list at all since it's not going to gross anywhere near what it would need to make the Top 100 worldwide flicks of 2023.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, November 9, 2023 10:27 AM

Well FNAF looks to have gained another $3 Million on Monday and Tuesday. With those kinds of numbers it should probably easily get $12 Million by Sunday night. It could possibly see its first sub-Million day or possibly two of them before the weekend, but it should be close to already having $5 Million before the weekend begins.

There appears to be another $3 Million International reported that wasn't reported on Monday as well, so FNAF is already sitting at $223 Million.

That's 892% of its Production Budget.

It will probably hit 900% before the weekend even begins.

If it sees another $7 Million this weekend or more and $13 Million international, it will be at 980%. That would be extremely low compared to last weekend internationally though, so there's a very good chance now that FNAF joins the 1,000% club Worldwide when the international numbers come in on Monday.

I do believe it will be the fastest movie to have done so all year if this happens.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, November 10, 2023 4:14 AM

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Well FNAF looks to have gained another $3 Million on Monday and Tuesday. With those kinds of numbers it should probably easily get $12 Million by Sunday night. It could possibly see its first sub-Million day or possibly two of them before the weekend, but it should be close to already having $5 Million before the weekend begins.

Yup. Just barely. FNAF made $947,635 on Wednesday. It will make less than this tonight.

It won't make enough tonight to round up and get 900%. It will begin the weekend with 896%.

It won't quite make $5 Million before the weekend begins, but it will easily have $4.5 Million through Thursday.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, November 12, 2023 9:09 PM

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After the weekend and the international tally we're at $119.6 Million with a 44.2% Domestic / 55.8% International split on Killers.

That's only $10 Million added to the International numbers from the previous weekend, so unless the numbers reporting is strange for this one, it's no longer doing very well overseas.

Killers had its first sub-Million Domestic day on Monday with only $674k.

At nearly $120 Million already I still think that grossing more moneythan Shazam II should be quite easy for Killers, but I still don't think it will beat $150 Million, or 75% of its production budget.

At 60% of its production budget currently, it's moved up from last place on the 2023 list to 57th place, right behind Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken's 66%.

My initial prediction for Killers was that it would match Ruby Gillman. That was before it did far better internationally than I thought it would. If it hits around my $150 Million target, it will move up to 53rd place for 2023, right above Strays, and considerably below Shazam II.

$4,650,000 for the weekend, and $126,730,599 total worldwide. It's only fallen around 27% to 32% per week since the low initial box office and the massive first to second week drop, which really doesn't happen very often. It currently stands at 63.5% of the Production Budget.

We'll see what the international numbers bring, but it should have grossed more than Shazam II and have a higher percentage than Ruby Gillman once they come in.

Since the movie decided to grow some legs, I was probably wrong about $150 Million too. There's no way this thing is going to get its production budget back, but it might be closer to $200 Million than $150 Million worldwide depending on how long it's in theaters and if it can maintain some of the international take for another month or more.

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Oppenheimer is still in play. Perhaps even Barbie too. It all depends on the International mood for FNAF on Weekend 3, since I don't imagine it making more than $10 to $15 Million more by next Sunday here in the states. If it got $12 Million by then, without International Numbers, it would be at 916%, which is only 28% behind Oppenheimer.

It actually made more on Thursday than it did on Wednesday. That's pretty unusual, but it's likely do to Veterans day. It only had one sub-Million day this week.

Projections for the weekend are in and it's another $9 Million, with the total for the week at $15,074,065, so just a little more than my high-end prediction if the projections are accurate.

FNAF is now at 936%, which is only 12% behind Oppenheimer and 62% behind Barbie.

It easily beats Oppenheimer once the international numbers roll in today or tomorrow.

Will it get the $15 Million internationally it needs to beat Barbie this weekend too?

Very likely, given that it doesn't look like it was released for streaming outside of the US (I'm only making an assumption here, but that's the only way I can explain the steep dropoff in the US while the international box office hasn't declined nearly as rapidly).

It's gunning for Insidious now for 5th place.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, November 13, 2023 5:12 AM

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After the weekend and the international tally we're at $119.6 Million with a 44.2% Domestic / 55.8% International split on Killers.

That's only $10 Million added to the International numbers from the previous weekend, so unless the numbers reporting is strange for this one, it's no longer doing very well overseas.

Killers had its first sub-Million Domestic day on Monday with only $674k.

At nearly $120 Million already I still think that grossing more moneythan Shazam II should be quite easy for Killers, but I still don't think it will beat $150 Million, or 75% of its production budget.

At 60% of its production budget currently, it's moved up from last place on the 2023 list to 57th place, right behind Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken's 66%.

My initial prediction for Killers was that it would match Ruby Gillman. That was before it did far better internationally than I thought it would. If it hits around my $150 Million target, it will move up to 53rd place for 2023, right above Strays, and considerably below Shazam II.

$4,650,000 for the weekend, and $126,730,599 total worldwide. It's only fallen around 27% to 32% per week since the low initial box office and the massive first to second week drop, which really doesn't happen very often. It currently stands at 63.5% of the Production Budget.

We'll see what the international numbers bring, but it should have grossed more than Shazam II and have a higher percentage than Ruby Gillman once they come in.

Since the movie decided to grow some legs, I was probably wrong about $150 Million too. There's no way this thing is going to get its production budget back, but it might be closer to $200 Million than $150 Million worldwide depending on how long it's in theaters and if it can maintain some of the international take for another month or more.

I'm going to have to check this one again tomorrow. It's possible the international numbers were already accounted for when I wrote this post, and if that's the case I think I might have been giving it more credit than it deserves. Even though we've since gotten the International totals for The Marvels and Five Nights at Freddy's since I wrote this in the morning, Killers remains unchanged at $126 Million right now. I wasn't tracking the international numbers close enough to know if they've been updated already this week or not.

63.5% would keep it at 57th place right below Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken for another week.

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Oppenheimer is still in play. Perhaps even Barbie too. It all depends on the International mood for FNAF on Weekend 3, since I don't imagine it making more than $10 to $15 Million more by next Sunday here in the states. If it got $12 Million by then, without International Numbers, it would be at 916%, which is only 28% behind Oppenheimer.

It actually made more on Thursday than it did on Wednesday. That's pretty unusual, but it's likely do to Veterans day. It only had one sub-Million day this week.

Projections for the weekend are in and it's another $9 Million, with the total for the week at $15,074,065, so just a little more than my high-end prediction if the projections are accurate.

FNAF is now at 936%, which is only 12% behind Oppenheimer and 62% behind Barbie.

It easily beats Oppenheimer once the international numbers roll in today or tomorrow.

Will it get the $15 Million internationally it needs to beat Barbie this weekend too?

Very likely, given that it doesn't look like it was released for streaming outside of the US (I'm only making an assumption here, but that's the only way I can explain the steep dropoff in the US while the international box office hasn't declined nearly as rapidly).

It's gunning for Insidious now for 5th place.

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