The Marvels Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 00:56
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Director Nia DaCosta Implies She’s Done With Marvel Studios Productions After ‘The Marvels’
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/09/20/director-nia-dacosta-implies
-shes-done-with-marvel-studios-productions-after-the-marvels/
Oh. I see.
We're going to just pretend that you weren't fired for incompetence and that "moving on" was a choice that you made.
We look forward to your new book, Nia, where you blame Donald Trump for the bad times you had at Marvel Studios.
Keep failing upward!
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Personally, I'd rather go see "Dicks: The Musical", even if it's all about dicks.
And I hate musicals.
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The Marvels Predicted to Flop
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/marvels-predicted-flop-160000868.html?
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According to forecasts by Box Office Pro, the domestic opening of Marvel’s next big blockbuster will generate between $50 million and $75 million. That’s less than half of what Captain Marvel managed in 2019.
Reports also say presales are “alarmingly low,” down 69% behind Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, and 72% behind Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. All in all, it’s not looking good ahead of The Marvels’ release date on November 10, especially given its reported $270+ million gross budget.
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Despite damning early signs, however, it’s unlikely to cause the Marvel machine too much damage. It can recoup costs through merchandising and streaming sales. And, of course, if the film is any good, word of mouth will build. So don’t count it out just yet.
False. Marvel merchandise rots on shelves of department stores before it rots on shelves of Ollie's and Dollar General before it rots in a landfill along with Star Wars merch.
And as long as Disney+ exists and continues to lose hundreds of millions of dollars every quarter instead of licensing out the rights to its movies to other streaming services like Netflix, The Marvels will make ZERO dollars from streaming.
Brie Larson’s ‘The Marvels’ Predicted To Have One Of If Not The Worst Box Office Grosses For The Marvel Cinematic Universe Ever
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/10/13/brie-larsons-the-marvels-pre
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Box Office Pro shared their projects for The Marvels claiming the film will only gross between $50 million and $75 million in its domestic opening weekend.
They also predict it will bring in between $121 million and $189 million at the domestic box office.
If those predictions remain accurate, there's a very good chance this movie does only between $300 and $400 Million worldwide and will be the biggest Disney flop of the year behind Indy 5.
With ScreenRant's recent article about The Creator stating that a film needs 2.5x the budget to break even (joining Deadline and Variety also making that claim this year), The Marvels is going to need $685 Million to break even. And that's only if we don't find out later how much more they spent on the extensive reshoots and other problems like we already did with The Little Mermaid.
It just keeps getting worse for this one...
Report: Brie Larson’s ‘The Marvels’ Now Tracking For Atrocious $45M-$50M Opening Weekend
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/11/01/report-brie-larsons-the-marv
els-now-tracking-for-atrocious-45m-50m-opening-weekend/
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‘The Marvels’ Will Test Our Franchise Fatigue: November Box Office Preview
https://www.indiewire.com/news/box-office/the-marvels-test-franchise-f
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Even the entertainment press sez it's going to 'under preform', which is their way of saying...KABOOM!!
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Even the entertainment press sez it's going to 'under preform', which is their way of saying...KABOOM!!
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The Marvels Opening-Weekend Box Office Projections Just Got Even Worse
The next MCU movie's first-weekend box office estimates have been lowered substantially.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-marvels-opening-weekend-box-offi
ce-projections-just-got-even-worse/1100-6518979/
Ticket presales are at $5 Million, which is lower than The Flash.
If that reflects a $55 Million like The Flash or worse, there is a very good chance that Five Nights at Freddy's with its $25 Million budget is going to beat The Marvels at the Worldwide Box Office.
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so, that kind of money on a director who has, what?, 4 films to her credit?
I'm sure DEIsney had a solid reason
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so, that kind of money on a director who has, what?, 4 films to her credit?
I'm sure DEIsney had a solid reason
Yeah. Looks like The Marvels makes it 5 films. The Candyman reboot in 2021 is the only movie I've ever heard of. To be fair to her, it did make $77 Million on a $25 Million budget, or a 308% return. That is a "winner" even by the 2.5x RoT, however, in 2023 where we currently see 11 of the top 20 movies in the horror genre and 6 of the top 10 movies in the horror genre, 308% would put Candyman in 24th place, with the only two other horror movies below it being M Knight Shamalyan's Knock at the Cabin and Steven King's The Bogeyman (with King's Bogeyman being the only horror movie to fail the 2.5x RoT in 2023).
Horror is a very hard genre to mess up with the reasonable budgets.
Honestly, I don't even blame Nia herself for this upcoming failure. The fact that they would even put a diversity hire with no real cred behind her in charge of a $275 Million Marvel movie just shows how little input Disney/Marvel needs (or even wants) from their directors. (And Nia's hardly the only one. Look at the list of Marvel movies since End Game). I don't think she really DID anything during this movie besides being a black lady sitting in a director's chair. These movies are made by committee now, and you could pretty much take anybody off the street and put them in that chair and the movie would be shit with or without them.
This is further evidenced by all the recent stories that came out saying that she wasn't even involved in the movie for the last 1/4 or 1/3rd of the production since she had other obligations that she finally couldn't push off anymore after Disney kept pushing the release date back. Some people are already shitting on her for doing that and blaming the failure of this movie on her skipping out before it was wrapped up.
I don't agree at all with that assessment. We're getting the exact same movie that we would have gotten if she canceled her other obligations and just continued to be the black lady sitting in the director's chair and doing nothing for another year.
I don't really know anything about her, but I do have to say I've never heard her coming out and saying dumb shit like "if my movie fails it's because white males, blah, blah, blah". I think, if she were allowed to be completely honest, she would tell the world that she resents the entire experience. She knows that she was a tool... just a mere prop. She probably has some ambitions about really being taken seriously as a director one day too, and knows full well that this was nothing more than a marketing move full of platitudes, and now that it's going to fail not only isn't she going to get all the false praise she'd get if it were a success, but having her name attached to The Marvels might actually damage her career quite a bit going forward. Especially if Hollywood goes back to making money and goes back to hiring successful directors for big-budget movies and allowing them to actually direct the movies.
I don't blame Nia at all for skipping town on this one. Hell... It's a shame for her that everybody knows she directed it already. If I were her, I'd want my name completely removed from it and make it another Alan Smithee directed flop.
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