The Hunger Games Prequel Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Monday, December 25, 2023 00:02
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Yeah...
That Snow White movie is going to cost half a billion dollars to produce if they keep pushing it off to tweak it. I'm hearing they're not intending to release it until 2025 now.
They should just put it out next year and make whatever they can off of it and stop dumping any money into it. They should also force Rachel on an apology tour.
And while we're at it, fuck Andrew Garfield for his interview with her where he said we needed to be "educated".
I hate that we know so much about these trash people. I quite liked Andrew Garfield in everything I've seen him in, and Under the Silver Lake is one of my top 10 movies.
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Gina Carano Reacts To SAG-AFTRA Allowing Rachel Zegler To Promote The Hunger Games: “The System Is Rigged And Littered With Posers”
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/11/01/gina-carano-reacts-to-sag-af
tra-allowing-rachel-zegler-to-promote-the-hunger-games-the-system-is-rigged-and-littered-with-posers/
“What an odd strike this is… small non studio productions are having trouble getting waivers but studios get the interim agreements left and right.. ”
“Celebrities go from the picket line to their promotional tours and red carpets. What happened to that ‘I better get paid for every hour I stand in this dress’ talk,” she continued highlighting comments Zegler made while on the picket line.
“Meanwhile the people who are actually suffering are the crews and actors not apart of studio projects or the ‘in group’ to get their waivers granted. The ones whose money will run out quicker, the ones who are having to pick up a second line of work. The ones who will be controlled a whole lot easier once the strike ends based off of desperation to work.”
“Think that was by accident? Maybe they should’ve granted waivers for ALL the non studio productions, keep people working and halt ALL studio productions if they really wanted to make a difference and reach a faster agreement…”
“Who is this strike really intended to hurt again? Better make a deal quick, people are starting to notice. I’m sure it’ll be in favor of all the ‘right’ people and all the ‘right’ people will pat themselves on the back on an excellent deal and months of suffering well worth the wait.”
“At least while you are at it, you could throw into the agreement that it will never again be permitted to allow any production to force inject poison, I mean experimental jabs, into peoples bodies in the name of science ever again.”
Ya know, cause that in itself wasn’t something big enough to have had a huge strike over. The hypocrisy is palpable. The system is rigged and littered with posers. Art is free, creativity is your rebellion. You don’t need permission to do that.”
Damn, Gina. Maybe you should run for President.
Or at least President of SAG-AFTRA
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Uh Oh!
Rotten Tomatoes Critics score is 67% with 45 reviews.
Top Critics give it only 44%.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hunger_games_the_ballad_of_songbi
rds_and_snakes
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Songbirds and Snakes has only a 53 out of 100 rating from critics on Metacritic with 22 reviews.
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-hunger-games-the-ballad-of-songbi
rds-and-snakes/
At this point I think Wonka and Aquaman 2 and even to a lesser degree Wish before it are going to do decent business just because all the "blockbusters" before it suck.
Maybe Napoleon and a Toho Godzilla movie will benefit from this too. Another Trolls movie?
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Preview night is tonight, and just like Blue Beetle, it doesn't appear that there's much buzz around this one.
Here's Bruce's two lists at The Numbers this morning...
Most Anticipated Movies
Madame Web
Napoleon
Thanksgiving
Inside Out 2
Wish
Garfield
Next Goal Wins
Captain America: Brave New World
Arthur the King
Saltburn
Trending Movies
The Marvels
Five Nights at Freddy’s
Killers of the Flower Moon
Oppenheimer
Barbie
Madame Web
Saw X
Journey to Bethlehem
Sound of Freedom
The Flash
Rachel Zegler doesn't even make the trending people list anymore, but somehow Jean-Claude Van Damme does.
Trending People
Jean-Claude Van D…
Tom Cruise
Steven Spielberg
Ridley Scott
Brie Larson
Nicolas Cage
Dwayne Johnson
Will Dodds
Martin Scorsese
Leonardo DiCaprio
BoxOfficePro has raised their opening weekend prediction to $42M-$55M.
https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-forecast-the-hunger-ga
mes-the-ballad-of-songbirds-and-snakes-next-goal-wins-trolls-band-together-and-thanksgiving/
I'm sure this has something to do with how bad The Marvels is doing since there's really nothing else in the theaters to watch right now. They're all lucky that Dune 2 was moved back to 2024.
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The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes is looking at a Thursday night between $5.75M-$6M
https://deadline.com/2023/11/box-office-hunger-games-songbirds-and-sna
kes-1235616095/
The Marvels opened preview night with $6.6 Million.
I have no idea if this really means anything, but if it mirrored The Marvel's opening weekend to the Thursday Previews that will be around $40,172,300 on the low end and $41,576,200 on the high end.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Preview night is tonight, and just like Blue Beetle, it doesn't appear that there's much buzz around this one.
Here's Bruce's two lists at The Numbers this morning...
Most Anticipated Movies
Madame Web
Napoleon
Thanksgiving
Inside Out 2
Wish
Garfield
Next Goal Wins
Captain America: Brave New World
Arthur the King
Saltburn
Trending Movies
The Marvels
Five Nights at Freddy’s
Killers of the Flower Moon
Oppenheimer
Barbie
Madame Web
Saw X
Journey to Bethlehem
Sound of Freedom
The Flash
Rachel Zegler doesn't even make the trending people list anymore, but somehow Jean-Claude Van Damme does.
Trending People
Jean-Claude Van D…
Tom Cruise
Steven Spielberg
Ridley Scott
Brie Larson
Nicolas Cage
Dwayne Johnson
Will Dodds
Martin Scorsese
Leonardo DiCaprio
BoxOfficePro has raised their opening weekend prediction to $42M-$55M.
https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-forecast-the-hunger-ga
mes-the-ballad-of-songbirds-and-snakes-next-goal-wins-trolls-band-together-and-thanksgiving/
I'm sure this has something to do with how bad The Marvels is doing since there's really nothing else in the theaters to watch right now. They're all lucky that Dune 2 was moved back to 2024.
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Zegler has no star power, she does not have a strong fan base. This flick will be just another 2023 flop, does anyone remember 'Indy 5'? 'Blue Beetle'? 'Mission 7'? 2023 will be remembered as the year of the big budget flops...and 'Barbie'
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Lionsgate was smart though and only spent $100 Million to make it.
It's going to be considered a huge failure when compared to even the last two Hunger Games movies, but it's still too early to call it an actual box office flop, IMO.
It needs to cross $250 Million worldwide to break even.
I'd love to see it fail and for Rachel to have 4 flops in a row when Snow White comes out, but this will be her best chance at starring in a movie that finally makes at least a couple of bucks.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes is looking at a Thursday night between $5.75M-$6M
https://deadline.com/2023/11/box-office-hunger-games-songbirds-and-sna
kes-1235616095/
The Marvels opened preview night with $6.6 Million.
I have no idea if this really means anything, but if it mirrored The Marvel's opening weekend to the Thursday Previews that will be around $40,172,300 on the low end and $41,576,200 on the high end.
Bruce is predicting $44 Million.
As stated before, BoxOfficePro raised their expectations to $42-$55 Million from $35-$45 Million earlier this week. Though they don't outright say it, I'm sure this has to do with The Marvels doing much worse than even they predicted that it would do, and their predictions are pretty based compared to the rest of the movie media.
Bruce isn't happy with his model's prediction for Trolls Band Together at only $16 Million. He feels it should make around $20 Million. BoxOfficePro, however, predicted it will make $25-$33 Million. But that was before Thursday's preview numbers were known. $1.3 Million is not very good. Granted, it is a kid's movie and most parents are probably too busy on Thursday night to take their kids to the movies. The last kid's movie to come out was "Paw Patrol: The Mighty Movie" and they didn't even bother with preview Thursday.
The only other non-Disney kid's movies I can think of that came out in the last 2 years off hand are Super Mario Bros and Minions: Rise of Gru, and both of them are unfair comparisons. Minions made over $10 Million on preview night and Super Mario Bros came out on a Wednesday and made over $31 Million.
FNAF could probably be considered a kids movie too, but it's probably more a young adult movie since the fans of the series dating back to the original game would be late teens or early 20's now. I don't think a lot of little kids would have been able to talk their parents into taking them to see it. It also had the horror genre crossover and a release near Halloween. It did over $10 Million in previews.
Despite BoxOfficePro only giving The Marvels $16 Million, Bruce is still giving it $20 Million this weekend for a 2nd place showing according to his model that has trolls at $16 Million.
If Songbirds and Snakes gets a 50/50 Domestic/International split and ends up with $84 Million on Opening Weekend, it very likely won't end up getting the $250 Million it needs to break even. There's only two movies this year that earned close to 84% of their production Budget on Opening Weekend that ended up breaking even.
Equalzier 3 opened with 89% and ended up with 266% of its budget.
Cocaine Bear opened with 80% and ended up with 254% of its budget.
They both had smaller hurdles to overcome though, with E3's budget being $70 Million and Cocaine Bear's being only $35 Million.
This one is going to depend on International numbers to gauge whether it's a success or not. If it gets an extra $20 Million Internationally for $104 Million Worldwide this weekend it stands a much better chance.
Of the movies that made over 100% of the budget on Opening Weekend, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania is the only one that failed, and that had a $200M budget. The only movies that made 90% that failed were Fast X (94% opening weekend) and Gran Tourismo (90% opening weekend).
Fast X, like Quantumania, can be blamed on the crazy budget, with Fast X possibly being the most expensive movie released in 2023. Gran Tourismo only had a $60 Million budget, but it really was made for a niche audience and had no business costing that much money to make.
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With $13.5 Million on Friday, my guess is that Songbirds and Snakes probably gets around $45 Million opening weekend including Thursday previews.
If the international take doesn't come in at under $55 Million, it has a chance to break even.
It made 1.72 Million Pounds in the UK, which is $2,142,806 on Friday. Mockingjay Part 2, which was previously the lowest grossing Hunger Games movie made $44 Million in the UK. S&S is going to make nowhere near that in the UK, MJp2 made $646 Million worldwide and S&S is very likely to come up $350-$400 Million short of that, so it's really hard to say what it will do internationally until we get the numbers on Monday.
But my guess is about $15-$17 Million in the UK in total based off of Friday's numbers. A little more than 1/3 of what MJp2 got there.
MJp2 made $102 Million in the states on opening weekend, so $45 Million is not quite half of that.
I'd say right now it's a coin flip if it breaks even at $250 Million. Depends on the international take this weekend and if it has any legs to it.
It's got a worse chance than that of beating Five Nights at Freddy's in the end though.
I'm going to laugh pretty hard of FNAF ends up beating The Marvels, Songbirds and Snakes AND Wish.
Wish is getting some pretty piss-poor reviews too from what I've heard.
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