The Hunger Games Prequel Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Monday, December 25, 2023 00:02
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Lionsgate is saying $44 Million for the weekend, and without nearly as much pressure on it as The Marvels had with only a $100 Million budget, I'm going to assume that it made more than this in reality and my $45 Million prediction was correct. We'll know tomorrow.
It would also appear that S&S got just $500k shy of the $55 Million Internationally I said it would need to have a chance to ultimately end up breaking even as well.
So until the real numbers come in, we're at 98.5% of the Production Budget on Opening Weekend.
The 1.5% difference is so small it doesn't change anything with the comparisons I made the other day, and chances are it hits over $100 Million after the real numbers come in.
S&S has a chance here to break even, but only if it has strong legs. The fact that Wish is getting terrible reviews, The Marvels is already DOA on the 2nd weekend and no real competition comes out until the middle of December when Wonka comes out all are acting in its favor here.
Are people going to spend money this winter to just go out and see anything, or are they going to stay home where it's warm and watch Netflix?
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Quote:These 8K TV sets are better than a movie projector.
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Are people going to spend money this winter to just go out and see anything, or are they going to stay home where it's warm and watch Netflix?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/tv-deals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinema
The choice is clear if you factor in the outrageous price of theater popcorn/drinks versus microwave popcorn/2 liter Coke bottle from your refrigerator and the 20 minutes of commercials before the local cinema begins the show.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Lionsgate is saying $44 Million for the weekend, and without nearly as much pressure on it as The Marvels had with only a $100 Million budget, I'm going to assume that it made more than this in reality and my $45 Million prediction was correct. We'll know tomorrow.
It would also appear that S&S got just $500k shy of the $55 Million Internationally I said it would need to have a chance to ultimately end up breaking even as well.
So until the real numbers come in, we're at 98.5% of the Production Budget on Opening Weekend.
The 1.5% difference is so small it doesn't change anything with the comparisons I made the other day, and chances are it hits over $100 Million after the real numbers come in.
S&S has a chance here to break even, but only if it has strong legs. The fact that Wish is getting terrible reviews, The Marvels is already DOA on the 2nd weekend and no real competition comes out until the middle of December when Wonka comes out all are acting in its favor here.
Are people going to spend money this winter to just go out and see anything, or are they going to stay home where it's warm and watch Netflix?
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What's going to make or break this flick is if there'll be any repeat business. This I believe is the reason these so called 'block busters' have been tanking, the fan base goes and sees them once (or not at all) and never goes back.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Lionsgate is saying $44 Million for the weekend, and without nearly as much pressure on it as The Marvels had with only a $100 Million budget, I'm going to assume that it made more than this in reality and my $45 Million prediction was correct. We'll know tomorrow.
It would also appear that S&S got just $500k shy of the $55 Million Internationally I said it would need to have a chance to ultimately end up breaking even as well.
So until the real numbers come in, we're at 98.5% of the Production Budget on Opening Weekend.
The 1.5% difference is so small it doesn't change anything with the comparisons I made the other day, and chances are it hits over $100 Million after the real numbers come in.
S&S has a chance here to break even, but only if it has strong legs. The fact that Wish is getting terrible reviews, The Marvels is already DOA on the 2nd weekend and no real competition comes out until the middle of December when Wonka comes out all are acting in its favor here.
Are people going to spend money this winter to just go out and see anything, or are they going to stay home where it's warm and watch Netflix?
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
What's going to make or break this flick is if there'll be any repeat business. This I believe is the reason these so called 'block busters' have been tanking, the fan base goes and sees them once (or not at all) and never goes back.
That is a good point that I haven't been taking into account.
In the case of The Marvels though, that tanked so hard the first two weekends that repeat viewings don't even matter. The few people who went out to see that could see it 4 times and it still wouldn't help.
I'll come right out and say it. I want S&S to fail to break even just because I don't Rachel Zegler to be able to have anybody who can claim that one of her first 4 movies didn't bomb in the box office.
But I also feel the need to maintain my own integrity and not call something a flop when it hasn't yet proven itself a flop. And on that note, Ryan Kinel pissed me off yesterday claiming that S&S needs $300 Million to break even.
S&S does NOT need $300 Million to break even. S&S needs only $250 Million to break even.
These movies are doing badly enough on their own that we don't need people with actual voices out there lying about things like this and discrediting not only themselves, but everybody else who is sick of the woke bullshit and is enjoying watching them all finally fail hard in 2023.
So far, S&S is not a flop.
It very well could be one by next weekend, but people with YouTube/Twitter presences need to stop calling it a flop until it is actually a flop.
It didn't make $45 Million Domestic on the weekend box office, but I was right that they lowballed it and it made $44.6 Million instead of only $44 Million. Internationals were likely lowballed as well, so it still possibly made $100 Million in total opening weekend, which is 100% of its Production Budget, and except for Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, every movie so far in 2023 that has made 100% of its PB on Opening Weekend has ended up at least breaking even this year.
I hope it fails hard by the 2nd weekend, but until it does I will not call this a flop.
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Lionsgate is saying $44 Million for the weekend, and without nearly as much pressure on it as The Marvels had with only a $100 Million budget, I'm going to assume that it made more than this in reality and my $45 Million prediction was correct. We'll know tomorrow.
It would also appear that S&S got just $500k shy of the $55 Million Internationally I said it would need to have a chance to ultimately end up breaking even as well.
So until the real numbers come in, we're at 98.5% of the Production Budget on Opening Weekend.
The 1.5% difference is so small it doesn't change anything with the comparisons I made the other day, and chances are it hits over $100 Million after the real numbers come in.
S&S has a chance here to break even, but only if it has strong legs. The fact that Wish is getting terrible reviews, The Marvels is already DOA on the 2nd weekend and no real competition comes out until the middle of December when Wonka comes out all are acting in its favor here.
Are people going to spend money this winter to just go out and see anything, or are they going to stay home where it's warm and watch Netflix?
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
What's going to make or break this flick is if there'll be any repeat business. This I believe is the reason these so called 'block busters' have been tanking, the fan base goes and sees them once (or not at all) and never goes back.
That is a good point that I haven't been taking into account.
In the case of The Marvels though, that tanked so hard the first two weekends that repeat viewings don't even matter. The few people who went out to see that could see it 4 times and it still wouldn't help.
I'll come right out and say it. I want S&S to fail to break even just because I don't Rachel Zegler to be able to have anybody who can claim that one of her first 4 movies didn't bomb in the box office.
But I also feel the need to maintain my own integrity and not call something a flop when it hasn't yet proven itself a flop. And on that note, Ryan Kinel pissed me off yesterday claiming that S&S needs $300 Million to break even.
S&S does NOT need $300 Million to break even. S&S needs only $250 Million to break even.
These movies are doing badly enough on their own that we don't need people with actual voices out there lying about things like this and discrediting not only themselves, but everybody else who is sick of the woke bullshit and is enjoying watching them all finally fail hard in 2023.
So far, S&S is not a flop.
It very well could be one by next weekend, but people with YouTube/Twitter presences need to stop calling it a flop until it is actually a flop.
It didn't make $45 Million Domestic on the weekend box office, but I was right that they lowballed it and it made $44.6 Million instead of only $44 Million. Internationals were likely lowballed as well, so it still possibly made $100 Million in total opening weekend, which is 100% of its Production Budget, and except for Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, every movie so far in 2023 that has made 100% of its PB on Opening Weekend has ended up at least breaking even this year.
I hope it fails hard by the 2nd weekend, but until it does I will not call this a flop.
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As far as I'm concerned if a 'Hunger Games' prequel only breaks even it's a flop, that means it'll be forgotten by Christmas. A 'Hunger Games' prequel should be in the top 5 at Christmas, this will be lucky if it's in the top 10. This flick will fade away before you know it, the only thing they'll be able to boa
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As far as I'm concerned if a 'Hunger Games' prequel only breaks even it's a flop, that means it'll be forgotten by Christmas. A 'Hunger Games' prequel should be in the top 5 at Christmas, this will be lucky if it's in the top 10. This flick will fade away before you know it, the only thing they'll be able to boast is that they didn't lose mega bucks.
Your opinion is duly noted.
But the definition of a flop is if it loses money.
There's zero chance that it will be considered a success, and I think that they'd be crazy to try to put a sequel out for this prequel if the best they can do is break even or makes a couple of peanuts on top of breaking even, but until it actually loses money for Lionsgate, it's not an actual flop.
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113% of the Production budget after 6 days.
Both Monday and Cheap Seat Tuesday looked pretty good compared to the weekend with $5.2 Million and $6.5 Million, respectively.
We'll see what happened today, since it was the first Wednesday that saw the first steep drop for FNAF and The Marvels. It should tell us our first big news on whether S&S is going to be an official flop or not.
ETA: BoxOfficePro predicts $20.5 Million for the 3-Day and $29.8 Million for the 5-Day Holiday Weekend, and a -54% drop from Weekend 1. This would put it at $82.4 Million Domestic and ahead of The Marvels.
At least right now, it doesn't appear to have nearly as strong a presence Internationally as The Marvels did, with a virtual 50/50 split Domestic/International vs. The Marvels' 41/59 split.
It's got a long hill to climb to break even at $250 Million. If it maintains a 50/50 split after weekend 2 and those predictions at BOP are correct, it will only have about $165 Million after 2 weekends and still need to get $85 Million more. It's still possible, but there are a lot of options in theaters right now.
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I've noticed that Rachel has been making an effort to boost her market cred, after torpedoing it.
She has been pimping herself, going out to red carpets and photo events wearing see-through dresses and showing off her nipples. And not smiling anymore.
Contrasting to her prior record of limited wardrobe malfunctions or slutwear, when she was always smiling.
Wonder how she feels now, showing off her meat-worthiness in revealing slutwear to pay for her transgressions - brought about by expressing her Empowerment as a Wymmin.
Maybe she will be doing pron next year.
Not HG, but saw M$M reporting that Jew Hater Melissa Barressa was dropped from the next Scream while it is filming.
And Jew Hater Susan Sarandon was dropped from her agency for her Kill-the-Jews rants.
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I've noticed that Rachel has been making an effort to boost her market cred, after torpedoing it.
She has been pimping herself, going out to red carpets and photo events wearing see-through dresses and showing off her nipples. And not smiling anymore.
Contrasting to her prior record of limited wardrobe malfunctions or slutwear, when she was always smiling.
Wonder how she feels now, showing off her meat-worthiness in revealing slutwear to pay for her transgressions - brought about by expressing her Empowerment as a Wymmin.
Maybe she will be doing pron next year.
Not HG, but saw M$M reporting that Jew Hater Melissa Barressa was dropped from the next Scream while it is filming.
And Jew Hater Susan Sarandon was dropped from her agency for her Kill-the-Jews rants.
The agency that dumped old Sue (UTA) is the same agency that dropped Gina Carano, you would think that your agent would have your back, not at UTA.
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S&S takes 1st place on Wednesday with $7,280,000.
If you subtract the $2.3 Million from Wish's previews and the $3 Million from Napoleon's previews, they only made $6 Million and $4.725 Million for 2nd and 3rd place.
Bad news for Disney, and also bad news for anybody who wants to see S&S fail.
I know it is a Holiday weekend, but the first major drop for The Marvels and FNAF was the first Wednesday (-46% and -48%, respectively).
But S&S just posted a 12% gain from Cheap Seat Tuesday, bumping its WW total to just under $120 Million. It will have more than half of what it needs to break even tonight without taking any international numbers since Sunday into account.
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