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Trump’s Gag Order Is Crafted Perfectly to Withstand a First Amendment Claim
On Tuesday, D.C. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, following a hearing on Monday, issued in writing a partial gag order in Donald Trump’s Jan. 6 prosecution. It is only 3 pages: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.us
courts.dcd.258148.105.0_1.pdf
She grounded the order in long-standing Supreme Court law that a trial court has a duty to “protect its processes from prejudicial outside interferences” and that “the First Amendment does not override that obligation.” Then, she carefully focused on conduct by Trump that could reasonably be expected to increase the risk of violence to anyone in his trial process — witnesses, prosecutors, and court staff.
What matters to the country and the administration of justice is that Chutkan refused to simply take a one-small-step-at-a-time approach. With Trump’s increasingly violent social postings about witnesses, the judge recognized that halfway measures risk a danger to our justice system — and real-world threats of violence often follow Trump’s pronouncements in short order.
Now comes the hard part. Trump will be compelled by his political strategy to test the limits of the order that the judge issued. In fact, he’s already testing those limits. On Tuesday in Iowa, Trump rallied supporters against Chutkan, saying the “judge doesn’t like me too much.” He added, “I am willing to go to jail if that’s what it takes.”
The order included context for its prohibition on “targeting.” Chutkan cited “undisputed testimony” showing that “when Defendant has publicly attacked individuals … those individuals are consequently threatened and harassed.” She cited in particular Trump’s recent public statements “that particular individuals are ‘liars,’ or ‘thugs,’ or deserve death.”
The Supreme Court has defined “true threats of violence” as words that “subject individuals to ‘fear of violence’ and to the many kinds of ‘disruption that fear engenders.’ ” As recently as June, the Supreme Court ruled that such words are not protected by the First Amendment.
Trump appears not to worry about jeopardizing his defenses in criminal cases by ranting and by defying judges. Instead, he aims to energize his electoral base to donate.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/first-amendment-gag-order-
against-trump.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Keep fucking around. Doesn't matter. You're already going to find out.
Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
All of these slippery slopes Democrats have been ready to use as Slip n' Slides since Trump won in 2016...
Hate Trump All You Like, The Gag Order Is Still Wrong
https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/17/hate-trump-all-you-like-the-gag-o
rder-is-still-wrong/
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This week, U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan overseeing United States v. Donald Trump issued a gag order prohibiting a leading presidential candidate, Donald Trump, from engaging in speech aimed at “government staff,” among others, during his trial.
Listen, I understand the disdain some conservatives feel for the former president. I share the sentiment. But if you’re cheering on a judge who’s inhibiting political speech on rickety grounds, you’re no friend of the “democracy” or the Constitution.
“Mr. Trump may still vigorously seek public support as a presidential candidate, debate policies and people related to that candidacy, criticize the current administration and assert his belief that this prosecution is politically motivated,” Chutkan explained. “But those critical [F]irst [A]mendment freedoms do not allow him to launch a pre-trial smear campaign against participating government staff, their families and foreseeable witnesses.”
Who is Chutkan to dictate the contours of a presidential candidate’s political speech? What if one of the “participating government staff” or a family member is compromised by partisanship? Moreover, preemptively suggesting that without gagging, Trump will engage in a “smear campaign” is as prejudicial to the case as any of the inflammatory things Trump has thrown around. It implies that any accusation now aimed at prosecutors is untrue.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
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Judge tells Trump to shut up until it is Trump's turn to testify. Since the judge makes all the decisions because there is no jury, it behooves Trump to be quiet while the judge listens to testimony.
State lawyer Kevin Wallace requested that the defense be asked to "stop commenting during the witness's testimony," as the "exhortations" were audible to the witness. Judge Engoron then advised all parties to keep their voices down, "particularly if it’s meant to influence the testimony."
https://www.wionews.com/world/donald-trump-scolded-by-judge-for-courtr
oom-interruptions-during-witness-testimony-in-fraud-trial-648642
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Judge tells Trump to shut up until it is Trump's turn to testify. Since the judge makes all the decisions because there is no jury, it behooves Trump to be quiet while the judge listens to testimony.
The no jury thing is sink this whole case. Trump can say whatever he wants to say. This case, which was always going to not go Trump's way from the beginning with this handpicked judge who was appointed by Barack Obama, is going to be appealed and overturned.
Say whatever you want, Trump.
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State lawyer Kevin Wallace requested that the defense be asked to "stop commenting during the witness's testimony," as the "exhortations" were audible to the witness. Judge Engoron then advised all parties to keep their voices down, "particularly if it’s meant to influence the testimony."
Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
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Laughing here, oh yeah, rolling on the floor.
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As the west will continue to decay...or maybe not
Pop?
Loud Classical
5th symphony, not Chopin's Piano
Rock
Sonata ?
dan du dun dun-dun, da dun dun donnnal
Beethoven Carmen Maria Callas>
something more cliche
and then Tucker
“The World Was Safer Under President Donald J. Trump.”
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Laughing here, oh yeah, rolling on the floor.
Nobody cares, Ted.
We're not going to allow your regime to lock up their competition like we're some 3rd world shithole.
All signs point to a Trump/Biden* rematch, and all signs point to a large Biden* loss.
You'd better fix your fucking party. You're running out of time dicking around with things that aren't going to help you.
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Kenneth Chesebro, pleads guilty in Trump Georgia Rico act trial. He flipped and will testify against Trump.
Oops
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Donald Trump fined $5,000 and warned twice about imprisonment
Judge Engoron said, “I want to make clear that Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine, even if it is a large machine.”
He added: “In the current overheated climate incendiary untruths can and in some cases already has lead to serious physical harm and worse.”
In his order Friday, the judge repeated his warning in no uncertain terms: “Make no mistake: future violations, whether intentional or unintentional, will subject the violator to far more severe sanctions, which may include, but are not limited to, steeper financial penalties, holding Donald Trump in contempt of court, and possibly imprisoning him.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/20/politics/trump-social-media-fraud-trial
-warning/index.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Donald Trump fined $5,000 and warned twice about imprisonment
Judge Engoron said, “I want to make clear that Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine, even if it is a large machine.”
He added: “In the current overheated climate incendiary untruths can and in some cases already has lead to serious physical harm and worse.”
In his order Friday, the judge repeated his warning in no uncertain terms: “Make no mistake: future violations, whether intentional or unintentional, will subject the violator to far more severe sanctions, which may include, but are not limited to, steeper financial penalties, holding Donald Trump in contempt of court, and possibly imprisoning him.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/20/politics/trump-social-media-fraud-trial
-warning/index.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Loving it...
T
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