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Donald Trump Has Been Indicted And Yes Arrested; Four Times Now And Counting. I was Right

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THG
Tuesday, September 26, 2023 7:28 PM

Want to be an authoritarian? First you create a message that resonates with the blamers, whiners and complainers. Then you discredit the press, the courts and civil servants. Trumps been doing this since day one.

Once Trump started the process useful idiots lined up to join with him. Uneducated, whiny and corrupt individuals. Morons who would use their vote to vote for people who would strip them of their right to vote in the future.

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'Unprecedented': Trump calls media 'enemy of the people' as concerns of violence spike








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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 7:43 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Be very careful what you wish for.

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I wish you would read a book.

In her new book “Enough,” former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson paints the closing days of the Trump White House as even more chaotic and lawless than she previously disclosed in her shocking televised testimony last summer.
https://www.amazon.com/Enough-Cassidy-Hutchinson-ebook/dp/B0C3DKT462/

President Donald Trump lashes out unpredictably and makes wild demands. Chief of staff Mark Meadows leaks classified documents to friendly right-wing media figures and burns documents. Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani gropes Hutchinson inappropriately the day of the Capitol insurrection.

She also depicts major Republican figures, including Speaker Kevin McCarthy, stating clearly behind the scenes what they refrained from telling the American people: that Joe Biden won the presidential election and Trump lost.

Hints that integrity wasn’t exactly the word of the day were there from the beginning, of course. “Cass, if I can get through this job and manage to keep (Trump) out of jail, I’ll have done a good job,” Meadows told Hutchinson in June 2020.

After one 2020 campaign rally, Meadows asked her, “Would you take a bullet for him?” – meaning Trump.

“Could it be to the leg?” Hutchinson tried to joke back.

Meadows responded that he would “do anything” to get Trump reelected.

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe expressed concern about the president’s unpredictability, noting that one minute “he acknowledges he lost… Then he’ll immediately backpedal.”

After the US Supreme Court declined to hear the bizarre lawsuit filed by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, full of lies and false claims about the election, Trump pushed Meadows, “Why didn’t we make more calls? We needed to do more. … We can’t let this stand.”

Trump continued, “I don’t want people to know we lost, Mark. This is embarrassing. Figure it out.” Even then, when Meadows assured Trump he would work on it, Hutchinson’s irritation is with Meadows for giving Trump false hope, not with Trump for demanding that his delusions become reality.

Hutchinson’s claim that Trump admitted to Meadows that he lost is the latest in a series of eye-witness accounts of Trump periodically admitting in private to having lost the election.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-book-trump-
white-house-chaos/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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THG
Tuesday, September 26, 2023 7:48 PM

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In her new book “Enough,” former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson paints the closing days of the Trump White House as even more chaotic and lawless than she previously disclosed in her shocking televised testimony last summer.





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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 8:04 PM

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In her new book “Enough,” former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson paints the closing days of the Trump White House as even more chaotic and lawless than she previously disclosed in her shocking televised testimony last summer.
I don't know about your part of the world, but in my part of East Texas, Trump voters' lives are almost as lawless and chaotic as Trump's, but more circumscribed because they lack his wealth. The similarities are the obvious attraction between Trump and his East Texas voters. His voters have about as many personal, financial and legal problems as Trump does, adjusting for wealth. That is why they want to tear down the system and rebuild it in a way that annihilates their problems in a huge bonfire of burning documents, court orders, lawsuits, divorce papers, and bankruptcy proceedings. I almost forgot, unpaid taxes. Trumptards are pretty bad about paying their taxes on time and cheating, but so is Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:05 PM

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In her new book “Enough,” former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson paints the closing days of the Trump White House as even more chaotic and lawless than she previously disclosed in her shocking televised testimony last summer.

I don't know about your part of the world, but in my part of East Texas, Trump voters' lives are almost as lawless and chaotic as Trump's, but more circumscribed because they lack his wealth. The similarities are the obvious attraction between Trump and his East Texas voters. His voters have about as many personal, financial and legal problems as Trump does, adjusting for wealth. That is why they want to tear down the system and rebuild it in a way that annihilates their problems in a huge bonfire of burning documents, court orders, lawsuits, divorce papers, and bankruptcy proceedings. I almost forgot, unpaid taxes. Trumptards are pretty bad about paying their taxes on time and cheating, but so is Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




In other words; they think what they want is better than what they have. They have no idea even the right to bitch will be lost if they get what they want. And no dictator or authoritarian wants to be surrounded by a bitchy populist that is armed to the teeth. So, they need to be prepared to give up their guns because that is inevitable in a one person rules all society.

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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:19 PM

Keep crying and fearmongering about a future that is never going to happen while we're living in the worst times in America that a majority of American citizens have ever lived through.


Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.



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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Thursday, September 28, 2023 3:59 PM

Judge Gives Trump Organization the Corporate Death Penalty

By David Cay Johnston, September 26, 2023

A New York State judge on Tuesday canceled all of the business licenses for the Trump Organization and its 500 or so subsidiary companies and partnerships after finding that Trump used them to, along with his older two sons, commit fraud.

Under the New York General Business Law, you can only do business in your own name as a sole proprietor or with a business license, which the state calls a “business certificate.” All of Trump’s businesses were corporations or partnerships that require business certificates.

In a 35-page decision, Judge Engoron also excoriated Trump and his lawyers for making nonsense arguments, so badly misquoting legal cases that they turned the law upside down, and other legal misconduct.

Five Trump lawyers were each fined $7,500 for making “frivolous” arguments.

A judge calling a lawyer’s argument “frivolous” is the equivalent of saying it is no better than nonsense from a drunk in a bar, as I teach my Syracuse University College of Law students.

Those lawyers may well find it wise to hire their own lawyers as Judge Engoron’s findings could form the basis of disbarment proceedings, something already underway against Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, the former federal prosecutor, and John Eastman, a former dean of the Chapman University School of Law in Orange, Calif.

https://www.dcreport.org/2023/09/26/donald-trump-liable-for-fraud/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 28, 2023 4:07 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Keep crying and fearmongering about a future that is never going to happen while we're living in the worst times in America that a majority of American citizens have ever lived through.

Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.

Trump's worth will drop below a billion dollars:

In 2015 Trump claimed his net worth was north of $10 billion. When he became president, he asked if he could file his federally required financial disclosure statements without signing them under penalty of perjury. That request was denied. The statement Trump then filed, by my counting, showed a net worth of not much more than $1 billion, but was based on fantastical assertions of value.

News organizations, except DCReport, told their audiences next to nothing about how from June 2015 to January 2017 Trump’s claimed net worth fell by roughly 90 percent.

A non-jury trial before Judge Engoron next week will determine how much Trump will be fined for his years of bank fraud and insurance fraud.

Barring a highly unlikely reversal by an appeals court, Trump’s business assets eventually will be liquidated since he cannot operate them without a business license. Retired Judge Barbara Jones was appointed to monitor the assets, an arrangement not unlike the court-supervised liquidation of a bankrupt company or the assets of a drug lord.

Creditors, any fines due the state because of the fraud, and taxes will be paid first from sales of Trump properties.

The various properties are likely to be sold at fire sale prices and certainly not for top dollar when liquidation begins, probably after all appeals are exhausted.

https://www.dcreport.org/2023/09/26/donald-trump-liable-for-fraud/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 28, 2023 10:49 PM





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Friday, September 29, 2023 7:07 AM

Hail to the Fraudster in Chief.

Sept. 28, 2023, 6:28 p.m. ET

Ever since debt was invented in ancient Sumer, there have probably been people enriching themselves through bad investments. The trick is to make these investments using other people’s money.

Suppose, for example, that a wheeler-dealer uses borrowed funds to make risky investments in New Jersey casinos. If the investments somehow end up making money, he can pocket the profits. But if the investments fail, he may — if he’s been tricky about the wording in his loans or manages to persuade his creditors not to go after his other assets — be able to walk away and leave other people holding the bag. That is, it’s heads he wins, tails the creditors lose.

He may also be able to siphon off some of the borrowed money, say by having the casinos pay him or businesses he owns large sums for various services before they go bust.

As readers may have guessed, this isn’t a hypothetical example. It is the story of Donald Trump’s New Jersey casino empire, a venture ending in multiple bankruptcies that was a disaster for outside investors but appears to have been quite profitable for Trump.

The problem for someone who wants to play that game is how to persuade lenders to play along. Why would any people risk their money in such dubious ventures?

Well, there are a couple of ways to pull this off. One, perhaps the main story with those casinos, is sheer power of persuasion, perhaps supported by a cult of personality: Convince lenders that these dubious ventures are actually good investments or that you’re a uniquely effective businessman who can turn straw into gold.

Alternatively, you can try to persuade lenders that they’re safe by offering collateral that seems sufficient to protect them but isn’t, because you’ve inflated the value of the assets you put up and possibly also inflated your personal wealth to make it seem you are both a brilliant businessman and a reliable borrower.

Which is why making false claims about the value of assets you control is illegal. And on Tuesday, Justice Arthur F. Engoron ruled in New York that Trump did, in fact, persistently commit fraud by overvaluing his assets, possibly by as much as $2.2 billion.

Trump and his lawyers offered, as I read it, three main defenses against accusations of fraud.

First, they argued that the value of real estate is, to some extent, subjective. Indeed, if you own a building, you don’t know for sure what it’s worth until you try to sell it.

But while there’s some wiggle room in valuing real estate, it’s limited. And Engoron ruled that Trump went far beyond those limits, creating a “fantasy world” of indefensible valuations. For example, the Trump Organization treated rent-regulated apartments as being worth as much as noncontrolled apartments. The judge made special note of Trump’s claim that he had a 30,000-square-foot residence in New York, when the true number was only 11,000; square footage isn’t subjective.

Second, Trump’s lawyers argued that banks that lent to him got repaid in full, so there was no harm done. Of course, that wasn’t true for lenders caught up in Trump’s earlier bankruptcies. More generally, playing heads-I-win-tails-you-lose based on fraudulent valuations isn’t legal even if sometimes the bets come up heads.

Finally, Trump declared on social media that “my Civil Rights have been taken away from me” and that he borrowed money from “sophisticated Wall Street banks” that presumably wouldn’t have been easily deceived by fraud. If you know anything about Wall Street’s attitudes toward Trump, that’s a real hoot. For years, only one major Wall Street player, Deutsche Bank, was willing to deal with him at all, leading to much puzzlement about that bank’s motives. And eventually Deutsche Bank also pulled the plug, citing concerns about his financial claims. Trump did manage to pay off that debt, although it’s a mystery where he found the cash. But as I just explained, getting lucky is no excuse for fraud.

What’s remarkable about Engoron’s finding that Trump co

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