As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated

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You know the beginnings of Israel, right?

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;Within three years, (of 1907) about 10,000 dunums, an old land measurement equivalent to acres, had been acquired in the Marj Bin Amer region of northern Palestine, forcing out 60,000 local farmers to accommodate Jewish arrivals from Europe and Yemen.

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In January 1915, Liberal Party politician Herbert Samuel drafted his secret memo The Future of Palestine, which was circulated among the Cabinet and in which he backed annexation and the country gradually becoming an autonomous Jewish state under the protectorship of the British Empire.

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The British government’s Balfour Declaration followed on 9 November 1917, formally declaring support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine in a letter between David Lloyd George’s foreign secretary Arthur Balfour and Jewish community leader Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, effectively assuming ownership over a land that many would argue it had no legal right to give away.

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And fuck the people who were already living there. That's Imperial Britain for you!

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As the decade progressed, mass protests began to erupt opposing Jewish immigration as the Palestinian movement tried in vain to counter and resist what its members considered a usurpation backed by the military and diplomatic muscle of imperial Britain.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/why-israel-and-pa
lestine-conflict-war-history-b2426050.html

And Palestinian resistance -and severe Israeli repression and reprisal (and war crimes and crimes against humanity)- have continued ever since.

Now that you know, you can't claim ignorance.

Also

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Gaza is in essence a refugee camp (about 70 percent of those living in Gaza come from families displaced from the 1948 war) and an open-air prison, according to human rights groups. The United Nations describes the occupied territory as a “chronic humanitarian crisis.” Israel has blockaded Gaza since Hamas assumed control of the territory in 2007, and neighboring Egypt to the south has also imposed severe restrictions on movement.

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https://www.vox.com/2023/10/7/23907912/israel-palestine-conflict-histo
ry-explained-gaza-hamas

Netanyahu cynically tells Palestinians to evacuate.

How?

Unless Palestinians have a nation and homeland of their own... one which includes Israel giving back "settlement" land, and Jerusalem becomes accessible to all three religions that consider it to be holy land (Christians, Muslims, and Jews) violence will continue.

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A big Oops happens when Philistines seem to have Greek or Desi Hindi DNA or Italian?

Greek, Cretan, or Sardinian
https://greekreporter.com/2023/10/08/ancient-philistines-greek-origin-
dna
or they might have even come as far as the Iberian peninsula Spain...so if Arabia was not islamic?
The story of a giant Goliath was killed by a young shepherd later known as King David, a well-known Philistine story in the Bible.
not an islamic people as well as the use of an Aegean script and a notable consumption of pork

Stop the islamist Occupation of ancient Non-muslim Lands?

We know where cultures have been in history, the Jewish languages, the Yiddish speakers, Judeo-Tat or Juhuri in the the Caucasus Mountains, Semitic languages of Africa or Judeo-Marathi mixing with Hindu people in India revived Hebrew, the difference between a Turkish or Iranian or Moroccan or Bangladeshi

a Jewish woman with her own perspective and claims

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What's happening in Israel is not decolonization. It's the rage of an empire that once colonized the entire Middle East, North Africa, the Levant and parts of Europe, lashing out against a people who reestablished their indigenous homeland against all odds.

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https://twitter.com/TeaOnSundey/status/1711072115607445723



So many claims of ownership



but What is the difference between a Palestinian and a generic Arab from the region?

An interesting questionnaire for Palestinian Advocates By Yashiko Sagamori

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Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the U.S. dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese Yuan on that date.

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https://www.aspentimes.com/news/a-quiz-for-palestinian-advocates/

If you are so sure that ” Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history,” I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

When was it founded and by whom?
What were its borders?
What was its capital?
What were its major cities?
What constituted the basis of its economy?
What was its form of government?
Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

You are lamenting the “low sinking” of a “once proud” nation. Please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of?

And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over — or thrown out of — the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?

I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day “Palestinians” to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won’t work here.

The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel ; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal with military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it “the Palestinian people” and installed it in Gaza , Judea, and Samaria . How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the “West Bank” and Gaza , respectively?

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I had a detailed reply, and then Firefox hung.

So this will be short.

Basically, what you seem to by saying is that many cultures lived in that area, that they died off or killed each other off or were superseded by other cultures, and that nobody has a claim to the land. That is the nature of migration, colonization, and genocide. To the victor belongs the spoils.

So, I guess Swedes and French and the rest of Europe should just... yanno.,.. welcome their new inhabitants? Turn over their houses and land to the new arrivals?


Because, yanno, that's what you're expecting Palestinians to do.
There WERE people living there ... Muslims AND JEWS... before Jews from Europe took it over, and Palestinians have been fighting displacement ever since. (Apparently you didn't bother to read three whole paragraphs on Israel's creation.)

A second state wouldn't need to be created excpet that Israel refuses to include non-Jews.

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Also, JAYNZE, I don't appreciate by extensively MISQUOTED (Among other things, that whole riff about Palestine being a "proud nation"), which you did frequently and with gusto,. You're either abysmally stupid or dishonest.

I've been pretty tolerant of your blatant prejudices and delusions, but I'll be sure to point them out now. You and SECOND are quite a pair!



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Not every muslim is a terrorist, sometimes individual muslims can have a quality.

Sometimes both are one and the same but sometimes the Jewish can be a slight improvement
I'm no fan of the Jewish State its disproportionate response overwhelming fire power against some nasty kids throwing rocks. However look at the other team, the culture of SHITLAMICS are constant losers, it is a bad idea to support the culture.

Right now there are clips of islamics going home to home and shooting motehrs and fathers, they are killing older mouthy sisters that disrespected al-Lah in front of their little Jewish brothers and sisters, hijacking family and live streaming, inflicting trauma upon children
in social media videos you can see islamics going around door to door to Jewish homes and killing and hijacking and abducting and taking people hostage

What you see now in social media and on news videos is women, probably most Israeli Jewish some bound and gagged, some of them clearly beaten, blood patches on the buttocks side of their clothes clearly signs of trauma or maybe the were even violated, just as reporter Lara Logan experienced sexual violence in Egypt, one of the first known instances of taharrush gamea and Arabs using Rape as a weapon reported in the Western media

Maybe there will be worse to come, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS style beheadings of captured people as Israel gets ready to counter
and it will hit back with huge force

the endless cycle continues?


an older quote

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:


It also does very little good to have a large army if that army is not as well trained and motivated as the army of your enemy. I think anyone who wants to march into Israel will have to pave the road with their own blood.

Israel does not have the largest army in their region, but I believe they do have one of the most effective.

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maybe the balance of power changes

This is Hamas currently firing on Israel.
There is NO WAY this group has the funding for this level of operation without Irans support!

https://twitter.com/AshishAhiran2/status/1711200347455377638

A number of people allege they say US made guns in social media feeds

Some also say all that equipment left behind in Afghanistan, some of it is going through Iran and making it all the way into Palestine

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

before Jews from Europe took it over

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Jews are from North Africa, the Horn of Africa, they are even in Hindu India regions today, they were still in Arabia and yes also in Europe
and do you know what many of them had in common, after WW2 there was lots of sympathy for them and many of them wanted a State almost they all wanted a Jewish State, Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi Jewish populations of the Jew diaspora which even today show significant amounts of shared Genetic DNA and Middle Eastern ancestry.

if you want to be technical about it the original jihad islamists who might not originally be Terrorists and maybe not be genocidal Warlords the original islams come from Mecca, maybe Medina, everything after this is expansion and was spread by way of savagery, rape, beheadings, mass murdering, camel rape, genocide etc

Everything after this is about islamist occupation of non muslim land

Iran was Persian, Sumerian people, Egypt, Greek, Achaemenid Empire, Parthian Wars, Neo-Assyrian, Sasanian peoples and Babylon, Zoroastrian religions and Paganism, Mesopotamian culture it had huge art and math before the evil the Muslim conquest
then a camel jacker pedophile jihadist islamist called Moohammad comes along, they put up huge resistance to fighting islamics but eventually fall to the terrorist pedophile expanding islamic Empire

The islamics invaded Greece and the Balkans in the East and they invaded Spain through North Africa.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

French and the rest of Europe should just... yanno.,.. welcome their new inhabitants?

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France is a disaster now, th

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Not every muslim is a terrorist, sometimes individual muslims can have a quality.
Sometimes both are one and the same but sometimes the Jewish can be a slight improvement
I'm no fan of the Jewish State its disproportionate response overwhelming fire power against some nasty kids throwing rocks. However look at the other team, the culture of
SHITLAMICS are constant losers, it is a bad idea to support the culture.

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Yanno what they say, JAYNZE: If you say something and then say "BUT" or "HOWEVER" (or equivalent) you've negated everything you just said and are about the say the opposite.

"I love you. BUT ..."
"I'm not fan of Israel. BUT ..."
"Some Muslims are great people. HOWEVER ..."

Your prejudice against "SHITLAMICS" comes thru, LOUD AND CLEAR.

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Right now there are clips of islamics going home to home and shooting motehrs and fathers, they are killing older mouthy sisters that disrespected al-Lah in front of their little Jewish brothers and sisters, hijacking family and live streaming, inflicting trauma upon children
in social media videos you can see islamics going around door to door to Jewish homes and killing and hijacking and abducting and taking people hostage

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OH, THE POOR JEWS!! They did nothing wrong!!
/snicker

And you think Israel doesn't do this.
The only diference is that videos of Palestinians being killed doesn't make it on western media.
You should read Eva Bartlett. She lived and reported from there for years.

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Maybe there will be worse to come, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS style beheadings of captured people as Israel gets ready to counter
and it will hit back with huge force

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If they Palestinians were smart, instead of enacting revenge on individuals, they should chain them to random parts of Gaza City and let Israel bomb them.

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JAYNZE A number of people allege they say US made guns in social media feeds

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So I've heard. Some also say these were weapons given to Kiev that "somehow" leaked their way onto the black market.

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JAYNZE Some also say all that equipment left behind in Afghanistan, some of it is going through Iran and making it all the way into Palestine

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The only way to do that is by ship or air. Gaza doesn't have an airport and its small port facility is controlled by Israel. The only thing I can figure is that weapons are being sent to Egypt and smuggled via tunnel into Gaza.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
before Jews from Europe took it over

JAYNZE: Jews are from North Africa, the Horn of Africa, they are even in Hindu India regions today,

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Yes, and there are lots and lots of them here, in the USA.
So what?
Stop trying to distract from the actual history that it was primarily Jews FROM EUROPE who colonized Gaza.

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they were still in Arabia and yes also in Europe
and do you know what many of them had in common, after WW2 there was lots of sympathy for them and many of them wanted a State almost they all wanted a Jewish State, Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi Jewish populations of the Jew diaspora which even today show significant amounts of shared Genetic DNA and Middle Eastern ancestry.

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If there was so much sympathy, why not give them a piece of Germany? Or the USA?

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JAYNZE blah blah blah

SIGNYM:
French and the rest of Europe should just... yanno.,.. welcome their new inhabitants?

JAYNZE: France is a disaster now, the French probably will do some kind of surrender before some other culture like the USA comes in once again to save their ass and bail them out, they have become a pathetic people and have not truly won a war in many years, they could not stop Rwanda genociding itself, they sometimes win against a random village in Africa with some wannabe Dictator-General they did win against Libya but needed backi

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