FIREFLY: THE VIRTUAL SEASON
POSTED BY: kayleeholic
UPDATED: Monday, January 27, 2003 00:33
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Girl, you didn't hijack nuttin'. No money's being made on this, just some fun. The more the merrier, and you bet this is going in the mix!
I agree about the sleeping part. I have to learn to read the stuff I write.
Thanks, and keep 'em comin'!
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Lost Angel
WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?
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Captain!
Word to your history episode. The idea makes me drool. Do you have specific thoughts?
Also, dig your signature. It doesn't matter if you're out of tune, cos you're cool!
Sarah
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Agreed, Captain, but Jubal seems to be the only safe "villian" that we can bring back and not interfere withthe unaired eps. I think "Trash" includes more with Saffron, and besides, that's one I missed altogether.
I'd rather try and come up with something new, but the rest of the show is still so fresh for me and I keep thinking of them that's already been told about, ya know...(lol)
I think what we got is falling togoether nicely though, so thanks to everyone.
Mal: “The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.”
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Quote:
Originally posted by lostangel:
KAYLEE: Well, I don’t mind getting less.
MAL: Kaylee, you don’t get paid neither. You’re just like the Doc.
Not to picky, but I think Kaylee does get a cut from the take. Example: The medicine heist from "Ariel". In "War Stories" you see her giving up her cut to Zoe to help buy back Mal and Wash.
-Persephone
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Hi guys,
Sorry I ain't been around too much for the last few days. University coursework and all that !
Damn algebraic fractions !
Anyway, I've looked over the outline and Angel, it seems brilliant. I have to agree that Jubal is one of the few 'old' villains we can use without interfering in cannon.
I don't know about the 'dual' episode thing. I'm thinking if we expand the initial episode to a two parter but instead of having two episodes that run parrallel, we have one episode that is twice as long ?
Someone mentioned Wash taking it out on Jayne ?
This is corny, but I think we should leave this for another episode. Imagine if Jayne and Zoe get sent on a mission but the crew believe Jayne was responsible for loosing Zoe. Wash takes it out on Jayne, but Jayne just stands there and accepts the abuse ( afterall, he could flatten Wash with a finger if he wanted ) before Mal pulls Wash away from Jayne and Wash starts crying and collapses into Mal ( in a non-homosexual way ) ?
Otherwise ...
ROCK ON THE VIRTUAL PROJECT !
JAYNE: Anybody remember her comin' at me with a butcher's knife?
WASH: Wacky fun.
JAYNE: (annoyed) You wanna go, little man?
WASH: (flippantly) Only if it's someplace with candlelight.
One of my favourite Wash/Jayne segments.
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OMG where have I BEEN????
This is GREAT!
The best thing about FF is it's ambiguity. Just like in life nothing is 100% (except maybe Niska); even the Alliance has gray areas.
Some thoughts-
With 100 or so planetoids, this is a big 'verse. Between finding jobs and keeping the ship repaired and buying supplies and so forth, life has enough sh*t to throw at Serenity that villians from the previous eps don't need to be focused on right away. (Of course, the Alliance and Niska are a constant concern, but in a background kind of way.)
Ditto resolving stuff between the crewmates. The death-knell of a LOT of shows has been when "they finally get together". Or turning it into a soap, when all of the characters are bouncing off eachother all the time.
I think that we need to develop some "outside of the ship" characters, like Hui, who have a real- but ambiguous!- personality and connection to Serenity.
As far as villains are concerned, nothing brings a plot down like a villain who's too stoopid to be believed. (If you've seen "Waterworld" you'll know what I'm talking about.)
Hmmm... what else? Oh, yes, just as there is an Alliance, there also appears to be a resistance. After all, Simon didn't spring River. someone else did. Remember that reference to "blacked out" areas? What was THAT all about?
I got lots of ideas but no time.... And I gotta finish reading this thread! This definitely helps my w/drawal symptoms! 
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Sarahetc, thought your dialogue with river/book/jayne is great--boy do you have that stream of consciousness River thing pegged!!
And I have to say that I love that it alludes to Book's past that led him to a spiritual path. Maybe book was extremely educated and did research in his youth(he is already quiet and contemplative in nature) and, as the old story goes, his theoretical research ended up being used against people. OR maybe he actually worked for the gov (researcher again) before his conscience bit him (man of science becomes a man of faith). Perhaps he would have been happy in his lab or library (wherever he was working) but he decided to turn in a friend (because of his personal advancement? because of duty to alliance? because he thought it was something his friend needed?--needs to be something slightly self-serving without actually being sinister or deliberate) and never saw them again (maybe some alliance policy that promised amnesty, and he believed the alliance, but of course the alliance had no intention of granting amnesty). That would help him understand Jayne's treason if he had participated in it at one time himself--Book understood that short term gain with little cost to himself turned into a nightmare--the same nightmare that Jayne would have shared.
Everyone:
About needing meds--I still think that is ok that Simon needs meds because they could not POSSIBLY have ALL the meds that they would need--especially for a case like River's. I reckon the meds being easily available would be antibiotics, vaccines, etc.
Oh, about the bargaining scene with Hui--why does Mal bargain down to 18 when Hui offers 20? Is it a misstype or did I just misunderstand?
I am off on my Reaver knowledge--could they have been the "first stage" in what the alliance was doing to River? Not sure about this one--only saw one reaver episode.
May I make an observation? We seem to have several different episodes all running together. Might I suggest that we take a minute, before writing, and sort of plot a course for this season? Like have, say, 10 distinct "major" events (1 per episode). Then briefly describe key things that we want to happen to each character in terms of development over the course of the season(one being their background, maybe another being the book/jayne/river arc, etc). Maybe 2 each--need to keep it small to be manageable and to keep from cramming everything into one episode, and remember, we have no budget/time/or funding constraints. In the virtual world, we OWN EVERYTHING bwahahahahah! .
Seriously though, save some of the greatness for season three! the key to ff was not that every episode was jam packed--it was that there is enough time to languidly drink in each episode, to memorize a FEW well places lines, without feeling like a ping pong ball on drugs trying to keep up with the action onscreen. That is why we liked it (if I may be so bold as to assume), because there was plenty of time for play between characters, enough down time to rest for the big finish. For example, when Mal was trying to get the lackeys to take back the money that he had been paid, and we all THOUGHT that there was going to be dialogue with the one guy but Mal just kicked him into the engine--wow talk about a change in plans for my little brain!! The scene was so memorable because they suckered me in with what would normally be a pretty predicatble scene then WHAMO! Anyway, the episodes were like indulging in a truffle as opposed to gobbling a snickers. Again, though this is JUST my opinion. I enjoy snickers too .
We might list any key emotional developments we want to happen (like, say, Simon and Kaylee kiss in episode 10--the kiss signifies that he has broken the bond with River enough to accept Kaylee into his life).
Plus we need, say, 1 major villain and two grey characters (for example) and backstory on them, their description, their beef with the crew, etc. Then we would need to know when they come in. For example, we would introduce one in ep2, one in
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Hi,
I really like the above proposal--the collaborative type of writing these scenes, so everyone can submit lots or little to each as they want--sounds great. Is that the plan? Sounds great, if so.
And I like the ketchup bit
Phil.
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