Donald Trump Has Been Indicted And Yes Arrested; Four Times Now And Counting. I was Right
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Just putting in my $0.02 again. This is still lawfare against Trump, they're simply trying to de-fang any run for the Presidency by defunding him.
Open question whether or not it will work.
The DNC looks like it's angling to run Gavin Newsom. You'd have to be an independent -minded Californian to know what a terrible President he would make, but a lot of Dems outside of CA will probably be OK with him.
RFK Jr is expected to run as an independent.
So the question is whether RFK Jr splits the Dem vote more than he splits the independent vote, and pulls independents from Trump.
Anyway, hypocritical and unjust application of the law is such an ugly thing, and used to only happen in 3rd world countries, but I see it's happening here.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Originally posted by THG:
Hey Jack, I was right. More importantly, you as always, are wrong.
T
Only in your sad little fantasy world, troglodyte.
Betting odds for Trump got even better on a Sunday than they were yesterday.
Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
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Drinking worked so well for 6ix and Giuliani that Trump should start drinking:
The office of the special counsel, Jack Smith, has questioned witnesses about Mr. Giuliani’s alcohol consumption as he was advising Mr. Trump, including on election night, according to a person familiar with the matter. Mr. Smith’s investigators have also asked about Mr. Trump’s level of awareness of his lawyer’s drinking as they worked to overturn the election and prevent Joseph R. Biden Jr. from being certified as the 2020 winner at almost any cost. (A spokesman for the special counsel declined to comment.)
The answers to those prompts could complicate any efforts by Mr. Trump’s team to lean on a so-called advice-of-counsel defense, a strategy that could portray him as a client merely taking professional cues from his lawyers. If such guidance came from someone whom Mr. Trump knew to be compromised by alcohol, especially when many others told Mr. Trump definitively that he had lost, his argument could weaken.
In interviews and in testimony to Congress, several people at the White House on election night — the evening when Mr. Giuliani urged Mr. Trump to declare victory despite the results — have said that the former mayor appeared to be drunk, slurring and carrying an odor of alcohol.
“The mayor was definitely intoxicated,” Jason Miller, a top Trump adviser and a veteran of Mr. Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign, told the congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol in a deposition early last year. “But I do not know his level of intoxication when he spoke with the president.” (Mr. Giuliani furiously denied this account and condemned Mr. Miller, who had spoken glowingly of him in public, in vicious terms.)
Privately, Mr. Trump, who has long described himself as a teetotaler, has spoken derisively about Mr. Giuliani’s drinking, according to a person familiar with his remarks. But Mr. Trump’s monologues to associates can betray a layered view of the former mayor, one that many Republicans share: He credits Mr. Giuliani with turning around New York City after the high-crime 1970s and 1980s and contends that it has suffered lately without him in charge. Then he returns to a lament about Mr. Giuliani’s image today.
Mr. Trump does not dwell on his own role in that trajectory.
In a statement that did not address specific accounts about Mr. Giuliani’s drinking or its potential relevance to prosecutors, Ted Goodman, a political adviser to the former mayor, praised Mr. Giuliani’s career and suggested he was being maligned because “he has the courage to defend an innocent man” in Mr. Trump.
“I’m with the mayor on a regular basis for the past year, and the idea that he is an alcoholic is a flat-out lie,” Mr. Goodman said, adding that it had “become fashionable in certain circles to smear the mayor in an effort to stay in the good graces of New York’s so-called ‘high society’ and the Washington, D.C., cocktail circuit.”
“The Rudy Giuliani you all see today,” Mr. Goodman continued, “is the same man who took down the mafia, cleaned up the streets of New York and comforted the nation following 9/11.”
A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not respond to a request for comment.
Many who know Mr. Giuliani best are careful to discuss his life, and especially his drinking, with considerable nuance. Most elements of today’s Mr. Giuliani were always there, they say, if less visible.
Long before alcohol became a concern, Mr. Giuliani was prone to sweeping, unsubstantiated claims of election fraud. (“They stole that election from me,” he once said of his 1989 mayoral loss, alluding to supposed chicanery “in the Black parts of Brooklyn and in Washington Heights.”)
Long before alcohol became a concern, he could be quick to lash out at enemies real or perceived. (“A small man in search of a balcony,” Jimmy Breslin once said of him.)
In interviews with friends, associates and former aides, the consensus was that, more than wholly transforming Mr. Giuliani, his drinking had accelerated a change i
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just putting in my $0.02 again. This is still lawfare against Trump, they're simply trying to de-fang any run for the Presidency by defunding him.
Open question whether or not it will work.
The DNC looks like it's angling to run Gavin Newsom. You'd have to be an independent -minded Californian to know what a terrible President he would make, but a lot of Dems outside of CA will probably be OK with him.
RFK Jr is expected to run as an independent.
So the question is whether RFK Jr splits the Dem vote more than he splits the independent vote, and pulls independents from Trump.
Anyway, hypocritical and unjust application of the law is such an ugly thing, and used to only happen in 3rd world countries, but I see it's happening here.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
Try he broke the law. If not the evidence will show that. And remember, it's his people saying he did.
Wow, with you ignorance is bliss hey comrade.
T
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I can't wait to watch you mentally break down when Trump wins next November.
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Quote:Trump said he can't lose!
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I can't wait to watch you mentally break down when Trump wins next November.
Also, Trump says US presidents are immune from criminal charges
WASHINGTON, Oct 5 (Reuters) - Donald Trump, seeking to dismiss the federal case accusing him of trying to overturn his loss in the 2020 presidential election, argued on Thursday that he cannot be prosecuted because U.S. presidents are immune from criminal charges.
"Here, 234 years of unbroken historical practice - from 1789 until 2023 - provide compelling evidence that the power to indict a former President for his official acts does not exist," Trump's lawyers wrote to the U.S. District Court in Washington.
It was one of two efforts Trump's legal team pursued on Thursday to toss criminal cases against the former U.S. president. They also asked a New York judge to dismiss charges tied to hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election, calling them "politically motivated" and legally flawed.
Trump, president from 2017 to 2021, has regularly made sweeping claims of immunity both while in office and since leaving the White House. Courts have rejected these claims.
The U.S. Supreme Court in 2020 spurned Trump's argument that he was absolutely immune from state criminal investigations while president.
A U.S. judge last year ruled that Trump was not immune from civil lawsuits seeking to hold him liable for his supporters' violence during a Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot. The judge said Trump's actions leading up to the riot, casting doubt on the election results, were not official responsibilities.
Trump is appealing that ruling. Trump can't lose! Ask him or any Trumptard and they will tell you it is true. They will get a violently rude awakening where Trump falls out of bed and lands on his head, knocking his brains out.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-asks-court-dismiss-federal-2020-el
ection-subversion-case-filing-2023-10-05/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I can't wait to watch you mentally break down when Trump wins next November.
Doesn't matter if he said it or not.
Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
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BTW... I haven't heard your Legacy Media brainwashing and propaganda machine talking about the 14th Amendment for a while.
Didn't work out for you like you'd hoped, did it?
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Quote:For a Trumptard you are smart, but for an American citizen, you are stupid. The same is true for Trump:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
BTW... I haven't heard your Legacy Media brainwashing and propaganda machine talking about the 14th Amendment for a while.
Didn't work out for you like you'd hoped, did it?
Donald Trump Is Any Defense Attorney’s Nightmare
By David A. Graham | October 8, 2023
“A regular defendant would have been locked up a long time ago.”
They say that a man who represents himself has a fool for a client. So, perhaps, does a person who represents Donald Trump.
To most people, attacking someone with influence over one’s freedom and fortunes is self-evidently unwise, but that is precisely what Trump has been up to. This week, the former president attended a civil trial in Manhattan to determine what damages he might have to pay in a case about his company committing a massive, yearslong fraud. Justice Arthur Engoron, the judge in the case, has already ruled that fraud did occur, and Trump is furious about it.
“This is a judge that should be disbarred,” he said outside of the court on Monday. “This is a judge that should be out of office. This is a judge that some people say could be charged criminally for what he’s doing. He’s interfering with an election.”
The next day, Trump’s campaign issued a lengthy statement portraying Engoron as a Democratic operative, and Trump attacked Engoron’s law clerk on his social-media site, Truth Social. Engoron then placed a gag order on the former president, barring him from attacking the clerk. (Trump’s message was later deleted.) These incidents follow earlier broadsides against Tanya Chutkan, the federal judge overseeing the case against him in Washington, D.C., for trying to steal the 2020 election. Trump called her “a fraud dressed up as a judge,” “a radical Obama hack,” and a “biased, Trump-hating judge.” (He has also insulted prosecutors in bracingly personal terms, but then again they are already literally out to get him.)
“It’s like being a football player and every time you go back to your position, you kick the ref in the shins,” Ty Cobb, an attorney who served as special counsel in the White House during the Robert Mueller probe, told me. “You gradually sacrifice the benefit of the doubt, or you put a lot of strain on someone who’s supposed to be evenhanded.” Ken White, a criminal-defense attorney and writer, was even blunter, telling me, “He is who he is. It’s crazy, and I’m sure his lawyers are horrified.”
And yet things could be going much worse. With the exception of this week’s narrow gag order, Trump has not been punished directly by judges, who could instruct him not to comment on cases and even imprison him if he doesn’t comply. Department of Justice Special Counsel Jack Smith asked Chutkan for a partial gag order, which Trump promptly misrepresented publicly; she has scheduled a hearing on the question for October 16. Courts seem slow to sanction Trump because they are wary of being seen as infringing on a major political figure’s speech, and because setting a rule would require enforcing it—and Trump is possibly too big to jail.
“He knows the judges are less likely to do something to him, because they’re kind of backed into a corner. He’ll say, They’re taking it so personally; they’re being biased. They hate me because I exercise my free speech,” Titus Nichols, a defense attorney and former prosecutor who represented the whistleblower Reality Winner, told me. “A regular defendant would have been locked up a long time ago.”
That doesn’t mean that the outbursts have no downside. The fraud trial is being heard by Engoron with no jury. (He says that Trump’s lawyers declined to request a jury.) Although Engoron is ultimately bound by the law, a trial includes many opportunities for a judge to make dozens of minor, discretionary choices.
“When it comes down to individual rulings, you really want the judge to be as open-minded as possible. But if you’ve
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