Autotuned/Pitch Corrected, or not Autotuned/Pitch Corrected?
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Thursday, October 12, 2023 22:49
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Quote:Alas, I have "dyslexic" fingers! I will never be a typist or play an instrument. But I love to sing and whistle along.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Thanks for the vid
Very disappointing Disturbed's vocalist David Draiman used Auto-Tune in that Live performance, respect to the 'Wings of Pegasus' social video channel for pointing it out and showing the automatically pitched computer voice element. It's subtle enough as a 'trick' so you could easily miss it and as a vocalist he is much better than this and does not need to be auto tuned.
'Gotye' was difficult to hear if it was or not, lots of layers happening in the song, the social vid channel 'Wings of Pegasus' breaks it down very well.
SIX: Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
And here I am talking like I'm some sort of know-it-all about this after watching 3 videos to a guy who knows what he's talking about.
JAYNZE: The guy is a far better Audio Engineer than me, he's probably a far better Guitar player and also because I don't play much however I know a little maybe can jam out a song with others, if need be I can make beats or harmonic loops on a computer. Maybe I could find my way around a mix console an old analogue mixing desk easy or use a digital 'GarageBand' or some sort of MIDI editor or computer workstation stuff and I understand a lot of musical terms or the 'language' of music so when I listen to something maybe my ear is maybe a little better than others. Some other people might miss something I hear and I would not be coming from a place of total ignorance, unfortunately with music sometimes the more you learn the more you 'dislike' after learning to hear something out or wrong or off-key you sometimes have to let go and just 'chill'. I'm no expert at all but I am not in a position of 'inexperience' or ignorance but this guy will tech you a lot more about spotting Auto-Tuned vocals than I can.
Terrible to hear Disturbed' is using Auto-Tune on Live Performance, its difficult hear or to spot, much of the performance is NOT Auto-Tune and I admit maybe I could have missed it when it came in but once you start to know that 'Cher' pitch correction sound its difficult not to hear it.
SIX: Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
There's one song in particular that I've always wanted to play that I'm probably better at now than I ever was back then. Who knows if I'll maintain my interest though.
JAYNZE: Never too late to play and lessons and information are online for free, its all out there on the internet
There something about age that maybe make you better at going at your own speed, while maybe a young kid, you put the effort in but maybe tries the kid starts on the wrong foot starting with a mistake with bad technique, trying too hard but without the 'wisdom'.
Way too much info out there for it not to be interesting
Quote:I guess, when I hear people singing, I expect to
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ok, my guess is autotuned. It sounds kinda synthetic.
JAYNZE: It was very difficult to tell in the first video, I could hear it as processed by fx, reverb and layered but that does not mean 'Auto-Tune'
Some people can almost picture a 'Room' putting people inside a Tunnel or Church, they get so skilled with effects they don't even need to be 'musicians' but can be audio technicians working doing effects for a tv show
Two vids on 'Reverb' with Mykola MrHardGuitar and Stella WavesAudio
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When you hear a vocal on the radio it can be difficult to know what is happening because there is so much going on in the audio production.
You can put delay or reverb or some kind of canyon echo on the human voice and even layer these voices but that does not mean 'Auto-Tuned'
some might hear a processed sound a think Auto-Tune but 'Auto-Tune' itself has a unique sound, I call it the 'Cher' auto tune effect
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My mind is kind of on a lot of things right now and I haven't been very focused. I didn't mean to let so much time go before getting back to this thread. I do appreciate discussions like this, and it seems like it's been a learning experience for all of us. I will take time to reply to the both of you soon.
But I did want to submit a few more videos to the thread...
Though not Autotune related, this Rick Beato guy seems to talk a lot about how pop songs have lost complexity over time (something I know that has been discussed here before), and he has a great story about when he was young and needed to quickly learn how to play what he calls "The Most COMPLEX Pop Song of All Time".
Somehow I'd forgotten about this one over time. It came out when I was very young, but I always did like it whenever I'd hear it on the radio, even many years later. I gave it another listen after watching him break down the complexity of it and I've got a whole new appreciation for it. What a great song this was.
I wonder if we'll ever get back to a time where great music like this is created again. Everything now is a mix of no-complexity, autotune, depressing lyrics, nihilistic lyrics, greed lyrics, violence promoting lyrics and any mixture of the above. The state of music today is not just depressing, but I think it's having a really negative impact on people.
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